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Michigan -4 over UW.

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  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,326 Founders Club

    Oregon is better than Michigan
    Just my opinion, but I don't think they are, not this year.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,549 Swaye's Wigwam

    Just my opinion, but I don't think they are, not this year.
    I think Oregon is still the best team UW has faced or will face. I won't be ready to die on that hill until UW wins though.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,326 Founders Club

    Nix is a lot more versatile than McCarthy
    True, but not really any more of a threat. Michigan is better on both lines, has a better running back, and a better defense in general. Beating them will be a bigger deal than beating Oregon, for a number of reasons.
  • Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,773

    Michigan has a much better pass rush than Texas, they're a better team than Texas. And I agree they're not Alabama 2016, just likely the best team the Huskies have faced since Alabama 2016. They're beatable, for sure, but make no mistake, this will be the biggest challenge of the year for the Huskies. The same can be said of Michigan though. They haven't faced an O-line, quarterback or wide receiving corps like UW's.
    There is no comparison between how Milroe and Penix handle the pass rush. Milroe is a RB playing QB, he has very low level passing instincts. Penix will have that ball out in a second to an open WR.

    Plus UW's Oline is better than everybody else's. Compare the pressure UT put on Milroe when they played vs what UT put on Penix. UW's line is that much better.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,326 Founders Club
    edited January 2024

    There is no comparison between how Milroe and Penix handle the pass rush. Milroe is a RB playing QB, he has very low level passing instincts. Penix will have that ball out in a second to an open WR.

    Plus UW's Oline is better than everybody else's. Compare the pressure UT put on Milroe when they played vs what UT put on Penix. UW's line is that much better.
    I don't disagree. I think the key will be UW's O-line taking control. Penix and WRs go nuts, take a quick, decisive lead, and force Michigan to bail on the run.
  • RTDRTD Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 837 Founders Club

    Completely different teams. Those differences instill different levels of confidence.

    The 1991 DaWgs were Bad Motherfuckers. They featured one of the best college defenses ever and an outstanding balanced offense, the best college team of the decade in my opinion, and among the best of all time. They smashed opponents. I, and many many others, never doubted them.

    The 2023 DaWgs feature a multi-generational QB, an outstanding group of wide receivers and an outstanding offensive line. DJ is an excellent running back, Iet's hope he's available for the NCG. The defense can play, in fact they are a bit underrated IMO, but they are not smashing anyone. I have doubted these DaWgs and I'm certain I'm not alone in here. They have been very close to Cougin' it in more than a few games, including the Apple Cup and nearly last night. They do find a way to win. Winners win and all that .... until they don't. IMO, their most impressive win this season was the CCG. They dominated a very good Oregon team, arguably the best team they have played so far this season, but again, the final score was closer than it should have been. It is that tendency to make wins harder than should be that has many doubting them and bettors betting against them.
    Of course, different era, 91 was about defensive dominance and plodding to victory, if your team was lucky enough to have balance beyond a running game that was extra. 30 years later it’s about protecting the talent and the Dawgs have a super charged offense, that’s puts more points up than their D gives up. That’s how this squad wins.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,326 Founders Club
    RTD said:

    Of course, different era, 91 was about defensive dominance and plodding to victory, if your team was lucky enough to have balance beyond a running game that was extra. 30 years later it’s about protecting the talent and the Dawgs have a super charged offense, that’s puts more points up than their D gives up. That’s how this squad wins.
    Not much plodding along in 1991. Mostly severe smashing. They left no doubt.

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  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,549 Swaye's Wigwam

    Not much plodding along in 1991. Mostly severe smashing. They left no doubt.

    (4) Washington @ Stanford PAC-10 W 42. 7
    (4) Washington @. (9) Nebraska Big 8. W. 36 21
    (4) Washington Kansas State Big 8. W 56 3
    (3) Washington Arizona Pac-10. W. 54. 0
    (3) Washington Toledo MAC W. 48. 0
    (3) Washington @. (7) California Pac-10. W. 24. 17
    (3) Washington Oregon Pac-10. W. 29. 7
    (3) Washington Arizona State Pac-10. W. 44. 16
    (2) Washington @. USC. Pac-10. W. 14. 3
    (3) Washington @. Oregon State Pac-10. W. 58. 6
    (2) Washington Wash State Pac-10. W. 56. 21
    (2) Washington N. (4) Michigan Big Ten. W. 34. 14
    The offense was good, but their greatest strength was that they could always count on getting the ball back and had time to get something working. They didn't start fast like this current UW team usually does. They didn't have to.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,326 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    The offense was good, but their greatest strength was that they could always count on getting the ball back and had time to get something working. They didn't start fast like this current UW team usually does. They didn't have to.
    The defense was devastating. Absolutely the strength of the team. But it is ignorant to state the offense plodded along. They had a damned good offense that featured a fantastic O-line. They could score quickly and abundantly, or grind it out. They looked like an NFL team playing college ball.
  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 5,162 Standard Supporter


    I am supremely confident.

    Michigan has not played a "good" offense all year. Bama and Ohio State are rated in the 40s.

    UW had to play Oregon x2, Texas, Arizona, USC...hell even WSU has a solid offense.
    I like your optimism and I am by nature pessimistic. When I watched Michigan this year was definitely not impressed with them. My kid who saw them in person vs PSU and watches a lot of CFB thought they were way overrated and that the actual champ game was UW-Texas.

    Still I am petrified of them just running the ball over and over like they did vs PSU (think it was around 30 straight runs to end the game though that did include 1 downfield pass attempt which drew PI) since we struggle with that.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,992 Swaye's Wigwam
    whlinder said:

    I like your optimism and I am by nature pessimistic. When I watched Michigan this year was definitely not impressed with them. My kid who saw them in person vs PSU and watches a lot of CFB thought they were way overrated and that the actual champ game was UW-Texas.

    Still I am petrified of them just running the ball over and over like they did vs PSU (think it was around 30 straight runs to end the game though that did include 1 downfield pass attempt which drew PI) since we struggle with that.
    The defense isn't amazing but it finds ways to get a TFL in those situations and get off the field
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,367 Swaye's Wigwam
    TheHB said:

    Tuli and the fat guys need to play a helluva lot better against Michigan than they did against Texas. If Michigan gets the running game going, it may never stop. I could see a worst-case scenario where McCarthy throws like 10 passes.

    Or we just need the 1-2 turnovers/3 & outs like against TX/Oregon while the Offense gets off to a good start so the other team has to abandon the run and play catch up all game.
  • TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,456 Swaye's Wigwam

    Or we just need the 1-2 turnovers/3 & outs like against TX/Oregon while the Offense gets off to a good start so the other team has to abandon the run and play catch up all game.

  • PatsDoogPatsDoog Member Posts: 159
    Using COVID year Michigan as an example of what to expect is like using Jimmy Lake Washington to be fair. Im still taking UW by 2 TD's
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 12,670
    Call me crazy, but if Penix isn't sacked 4+ times, and we? score 30+ points, UW is going to win. UW's receivers cannot be covered. The thing that worries me most is no DJ in pass pro out of the backfield. Michigan doesn't have explosive playmakers to keep up in a track meet.
  • CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,163 Swaye's Wigwam
    Put Westover in at RB if DJ can't play
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