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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,358 Founders Club
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Sobchak_Security said:

    Alabama was a dumpy mess of a team that trailed this year in the 2nd half of 7(!) of its 14 games. It also had a tight end playing quarterback. Michigan could have easily lost to that dumpy Bama team even with Bama’s center having the yips.

    Michigan’s other marquee win dropped the stinker of the bowl season against Missouri.

    Washington is better but this game will come down to whether Penix can be accurate with the football. It’s not a foregone conclusion but I like our odds.

    To be fair, Alabama came together as the season progressed. They were playing very well at the end of the season. They beat an excellent Georgia team and almost beat an excellent Michigan team. Also, due to injury, opt-outs and portal entries, tOSU that played Mizzou was not the same as tOSU that played Michigan. tOSU that played Michigan would likely have smoked Mizzou. Kirby Smart was right to question the bowl system after Georgia's embarrassingly bad blowout win over FSU in the face of injuries, opt-outs and portal entries that gutted FSU.

    IMO Michigan will be the best team Washington has faced in years. Perhaps the best since Alabama in 2016. I agree with your take that matchups matter a lot. The key matchup IMO is their? D-line vs our? O-line. If we? win that battle, we? will control the pace of the game to our? advantage.
    UW handled the shit out of Texas DLine. Smacked those fat bitches across the face for 3 hours. Michigan is not at their level.

    Fuck Michigan. They are not near Alabama's 2016 level. Corum, McCarthy, and Wilson are excellent college players but are B+ talent. Texas cooked UW with speed and Michigan has less of that.

    They will be methodical, however. And UW sucks against the run.

    People underrate how dominant UW is on the offensive side. Crazy talent.

    EWIWBI
    Michigan has a much better pass rush than Texas, they're a better team than Texas. And I agree they're not Alabama 2016, just likely the best team the Huskies have faced since Alabama 2016. They're beatable, for sure, but make no mistake, this will be the biggest challenge of the year for the Huskies. The same can be said of Michigan though. They haven't faced an O-line, quarterback or wide receiving corps like UW's.
    Oregon is better than Michigan
    Just my opinion, but I don't think they are, not this year.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,842 Swaye's Wigwam
    Southerndawg said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Sobchak_Security said:

    Alabama was a dumpy mess of a team that trailed this year in the 2nd half of 7(!) of its 14 games. It also had a tight end playing quarterback. Michigan could have easily lost to that dumpy Bama team even with Bama’s center having the yips.

    Michigan’s other marquee win dropped the stinker of the bowl season against Missouri.

    Washington is better but this game will come down to whether Penix can be accurate with the football. It’s not a foregone conclusion but I like our odds.

    To be fair, Alabama came together as the season progressed. They were playing very well at the end of the season. They beat an excellent Georgia team and almost beat an excellent Michigan team. Also, due to injury, opt-outs and portal entries, tOSU that played Mizzou was not the same as tOSU that played Michigan. tOSU that played Michigan would likely have smoked Mizzou. Kirby Smart was right to question the bowl system after Georgia's embarrassingly bad blowout win over FSU in the face of injuries, opt-outs and portal entries that gutted FSU.

    IMO Michigan will be the best team Washington has faced in years. Perhaps the best since Alabama in 2016. I agree with your take that matchups matter a lot. The key matchup IMO is their? D-line vs our? O-line. If we? win that battle, we? will control the pace of the game to our? advantage.
    UW handled the shit out of Texas DLine. Smacked those fat bitches across the face for 3 hours. Michigan is not at their level.

    Fuck Michigan. They are not near Alabama's 2016 level. Corum, McCarthy, and Wilson are excellent college players but are B+ talent. Texas cooked UW with speed and Michigan has less of that.

    They will be methodical, however. And UW sucks against the run.

    People underrate how dominant UW is on the offensive side. Crazy talent.

    EWIWBI
    Michigan has a much better pass rush than Texas, they're a better team than Texas. And I agree they're not Alabama 2016, just likely the best team the Huskies have faced since Alabama 2016. They're beatable, for sure, but make no mistake, this will be the biggest challenge of the year for the Huskies. The same can be said of Michigan though. They haven't faced an O-line, quarterback or wide receiving corps like UW's.
    Oregon is better than Michigan
    Just my opinion, but I don't think they are, not this year.
    I think Oregon is still the best team UW has faced or will face. I won't be ready to die on that hill until UW wins though.
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,358 Founders Club
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Southerndawg said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Sobchak_Security said:

    Alabama was a dumpy mess of a team that trailed this year in the 2nd half of 7(!) of its 14 games. It also had a tight end playing quarterback. Michigan could have easily lost to that dumpy Bama team even with Bama’s center having the yips.

    Michigan’s other marquee win dropped the stinker of the bowl season against Missouri.

    Washington is better but this game will come down to whether Penix can be accurate with the football. It’s not a foregone conclusion but I like our odds.

    To be fair, Alabama came together as the season progressed. They were playing very well at the end of the season. They beat an excellent Georgia team and almost beat an excellent Michigan team. Also, due to injury, opt-outs and portal entries, tOSU that played Mizzou was not the same as tOSU that played Michigan. tOSU that played Michigan would likely have smoked Mizzou. Kirby Smart was right to question the bowl system after Georgia's embarrassingly bad blowout win over FSU in the face of injuries, opt-outs and portal entries that gutted FSU.

    IMO Michigan will be the best team Washington has faced in years. Perhaps the best since Alabama in 2016. I agree with your take that matchups matter a lot. The key matchup IMO is their? D-line vs our? O-line. If we? win that battle, we? will control the pace of the game to our? advantage.
    UW handled the shit out of Texas DLine. Smacked those fat bitches across the face for 3 hours. Michigan is not at their level.

    Fuck Michigan. They are not near Alabama's 2016 level. Corum, McCarthy, and Wilson are excellent college players but are B+ talent. Texas cooked UW with speed and Michigan has less of that.

    They will be methodical, however. And UW sucks against the run.

    People underrate how dominant UW is on the offensive side. Crazy talent.

    EWIWBI
    Michigan has a much better pass rush than Texas, they're a better team than Texas. And I agree they're not Alabama 2016, just likely the best team the Huskies have faced since Alabama 2016. They're beatable, for sure, but make no mistake, this will be the biggest challenge of the year for the Huskies. The same can be said of Michigan though. They haven't faced an O-line, quarterback or wide receiving corps like UW's.
    Oregon is better than Michigan
    Just my opinion, but I don't think they are, not this year.
    Nix is a lot more versatile than McCarthy
    True, but not really any more of a threat. Michigan is better on both lines, has a better running back, and a better defense in general. Beating them will be a bigger deal than beating Oregon, for a number of reasons.
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  • Kingdome_Urinals
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    Southerndawg said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Sobchak_Security said:

    Alabama was a dumpy mess of a team that trailed this year in the 2nd half of 7(!) of its 14 games. It also had a tight end playing quarterback. Michigan could have easily lost to that dumpy Bama team even with Bama’s center having the yips.

    Michigan’s other marquee win dropped the stinker of the bowl season against Missouri.

    Washington is better but this game will come down to whether Penix can be accurate with the football. It’s not a foregone conclusion but I like our odds.

    To be fair, Alabama came together as the season progressed. They were playing very well at the end of the season. They beat an excellent Georgia team and almost beat an excellent Michigan team. Also, due to injury, opt-outs and portal entries, tOSU that played Mizzou was not the same as tOSU that played Michigan. tOSU that played Michigan would likely have smoked Mizzou. Kirby Smart was right to question the bowl system after Georgia's embarrassingly bad blowout win over FSU in the face of injuries, opt-outs and portal entries that gutted FSU.

    IMO Michigan will be the best team Washington has faced in years. Perhaps the best since Alabama in 2016. I agree with your take that matchups matter a lot. The key matchup IMO is their? D-line vs our? O-line. If we? win that battle, we? will control the pace of the game to our? advantage.
    UW handled the shit out of Texas DLine. Smacked those fat bitches across the face for 3 hours. Michigan is not at their level.

    Fuck Michigan. They are not near Alabama's 2016 level. Corum, McCarthy, and Wilson are excellent college players but are B+ talent. Texas cooked UW with speed and Michigan has less of that.

    They will be methodical, however. And UW sucks against the run.

    People underrate how dominant UW is on the offensive side. Crazy talent.

    EWIWBI
    Michigan has a much better pass rush than Texas, they're a better team than Texas. And I agree they're not Alabama 2016, just likely the best team the Huskies have faced since Alabama 2016. They're beatable, for sure, but make no mistake, this will be the biggest challenge of the year for the Huskies. The same can be said of Michigan though. They haven't faced an O-line, quarterback or wide receiving corps like UW's.
    There is no comparison between how Milroe and Penix handle the pass rush. Milroe is a RB playing QB, he has very low level passing instincts. Penix will have that ball out in a second to an open WR.

    Plus UW's Oline is better than everybody else's. Compare the pressure UT put on Milroe when they played vs what UT put on Penix. UW's line is that much better.
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,358 Founders Club
    edited January 2024
    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    Southerndawg said:

    Sobchak_Security said:

    Alabama was a dumpy mess of a team that trailed this year in the 2nd half of 7(!) of its 14 games. It also had a tight end playing quarterback. Michigan could have easily lost to that dumpy Bama team even with Bama’s center having the yips.

    Michigan’s other marquee win dropped the stinker of the bowl season against Missouri.

    Washington is better but this game will come down to whether Penix can be accurate with the football. It’s not a foregone conclusion but I like our odds.

    To be fair, Alabama came together as the season progressed. They were playing very well at the end of the season. They beat an excellent Georgia team and almost beat an excellent Michigan team. Also, due to injury, opt-outs and portal entries, tOSU that played Mizzou was not the same as tOSU that played Michigan. tOSU that played Michigan would likely have smoked Mizzou. Kirby Smart was right to question the bowl system after Georgia's embarrassingly bad blowout win over FSU in the face of injuries, opt-outs and portal entries that gutted FSU.

    IMO Michigan will be the best team Washington has faced in years. Perhaps the best since Alabama in 2016. I agree with your take that matchups matter a lot. The key matchup IMO is their? D-line vs our? O-line. If we? win that battle, we? will control the pace of the game to our? advantage.
    UW handled the shit out of Texas DLine. Smacked those fat bitches across the face for 3 hours. Michigan is not at their level.

    Fuck Michigan. They are not near Alabama's 2016 level. Corum, McCarthy, and Wilson are excellent college players but are B+ talent. Texas cooked UW with speed and Michigan has less of that.

    They will be methodical, however. And UW sucks against the run.

    People underrate how dominant UW is on the offensive side. Crazy talent.

    EWIWBI
    Michigan has a much better pass rush than Texas, they're a better team than Texas. And I agree they're not Alabama 2016, just likely the best team the Huskies have faced since Alabama 2016. They're beatable, for sure, but make no mistake, this will be the biggest challenge of the year for the Huskies. The same can be said of Michigan though. They haven't faced an O-line, quarterback or wide receiving corps like UW's.
    There is no comparison between how Milroe and Penix handle the pass rush. Milroe is a RB playing QB, he has very low level passing instincts. Penix will have that ball out in a second to an open WR.

    Plus UW's Oline is better than everybody else's. Compare the pressure UT put on Milroe when they played vs what UT put on Penix. UW's line is that much better.
    I don't disagree. I think the key will be UW's O-line taking control. Penix and WRs go nuts, take a quick, decisive lead, and force Michigan to bail on the run.
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  • RTD
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    Southerndawg said:

    RTD said:

    PineapplePirate said:

    I wish I had the confidence that you all do.

    The Dawgs have spent the better part of the last theee decades in the desert. Im guessing most of you were too young to remember 91. If you can’t get up for this and ride the wave till the end you’re missing the moment.
    Completely different teams. Those differences instill different levels of confidence.

    The 1991 DaWgs were Bad Motherfuckers. They featured one of the best college defenses ever and an outstanding balanced offense, the best college team of the decade in my opinion, and among the best of all time. They smashed opponents. I, and many many others, never doubted them.

    The 2023 DaWgs feature a multi-generational QB, an outstanding group of wide receivers and an outstanding offensive line. DJ is an excellent running back, Iet's hope he's available for the NCG. The defense can play, in fact they are a bit underrated IMO, but they are not smashing anyone. I have doubted these DaWgs and I'm certain I'm not alone in here. They have been very close to Cougin' it in more than a few games, including the Apple Cup and nearly last night. They do find a way to win. Winners win and all that .... until they don't. IMO, their most impressive win this season was the CCG. They dominated a very good Oregon team, arguably the best team they have played so far this season, but again, the final score was closer than it should have been. It is that tendency to make wins harder than should be that has many doubting them and bettors betting against them.
    Of course, different era, 91 was about defensive dominance and plodding to victory, if your team was lucky enough to have balance beyond a running game that was extra. 30 years later it’s about protecting the talent and the Dawgs have a super charged offense, that’s puts more points up than their D gives up. That’s how this squad wins.
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,358 Founders Club
    RTD said:

    Southerndawg said:

    RTD said:

    PineapplePirate said:

    I wish I had the confidence that you all do.

    The Dawgs have spent the better part of the last theee decades in the desert. Im guessing most of you were too young to remember 91. If you can’t get up for this and ride the wave till the end you’re missing the moment.
    Completely different teams. Those differences instill different levels of confidence.

    The 1991 DaWgs were Bad Motherfuckers. They featured one of the best college defenses ever and an outstanding balanced offense, the best college team of the decade in my opinion, and among the best of all time. They smashed opponents. I, and many many others, never doubted them.

    The 2023 DaWgs feature a multi-generational QB, an outstanding group of wide receivers and an outstanding offensive line. DJ is an excellent running back, Iet's hope he's available for the NCG. The defense can play, in fact they are a bit underrated IMO, but they are not smashing anyone. I have doubted these DaWgs and I'm certain I'm not alone in here. They have been very close to Cougin' it in more than a few games, including the Apple Cup and nearly last night. They do find a way to win. Winners win and all that .... until they don't. IMO, their most impressive win this season was the CCG. They dominated a very good Oregon team, arguably the best team they have played so far this season, but again, the final score was closer than it should have been. It is that tendency to make wins harder than should be that has many doubting them and bettors betting against them.
    Of course, different era, 91 was about defensive dominance and plodding to victory, if your team was lucky enough to have balance beyond a running game that was extra. 30 years later it’s about protecting the talent and the Dawgs have a super charged offense, that’s puts more points up than their D gives up. That’s how this squad wins.
    Not much plodding along in 1991. Mostly severe smashing. They left no doubt.

    (4) Washington @ Stanford PAC-10 W 42. 7
    (4) Washington @. (9) Nebraska Big 8. W. 36 21
    (4) Washington Kansas State Big 8. W 56 3
    (3) Washington Arizona Pac-10. W. 54. 0
    (3) Washington Toledo MAC W. 48. 0
    (3) Washington @. (7) California Pac-10. W. 24. 17
    (3) Washington Oregon Pac-10. W. 29. 7
    (3) Washington Arizona State Pac-10. W. 44. 16
    (2) Washington @. USC. Pac-10. W. 14. 3
    (3) Washington @. Oregon State Pac-10. W. 58. 6
    (2) Washington Wash State Pac-10. W. 56. 21
    (2) Washington N. (4) Michigan Big Ten. W. 34. 14
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,842 Swaye's Wigwam
    Southerndawg said:

    RTD said:

    Southerndawg said:

    RTD said:

    PineapplePirate said:

    I wish I had the confidence that you all do.

    The Dawgs have spent the better part of the last theee decades in the desert. Im guessing most of you were too young to remember 91. If you can’t get up for this and ride the wave till the end you’re missing the moment.
    Completely different teams. Those differences instill different levels of confidence.

    The 1991 DaWgs were Bad Motherfuckers. They featured one of the best college defenses ever and an outstanding balanced offense, the best college team of the decade in my opinion, and among the best of all time. They smashed opponents. I, and many many others, never doubted them.

    The 2023 DaWgs feature a multi-generational QB, an outstanding group of wide receivers and an outstanding offensive line. DJ is an excellent running back, Iet's hope he's available for the NCG. The defense can play, in fact they are a bit underrated IMO, but they are not smashing anyone. I have doubted these DaWgs and I'm certain I'm not alone in here. They have been very close to Cougin' it in more than a few games, including the Apple Cup and nearly last night. They do find a way to win. Winners win and all that .... until they don't. IMO, their most impressive win this season was the CCG. They dominated a very good Oregon team, arguably the best team they have played so far this season, but again, the final score was closer than it should have been. It is that tendency to make wins harder than should be that has many doubting them and bettors betting against them.
    Of course, different era, 91 was about defensive dominance and plodding to victory, if your team was lucky enough to have balance beyond a running game that was extra. 30 years later it’s about protecting the talent and the Dawgs have a super charged offense, that’s puts more points up than their D gives up. That’s how this squad wins.
    Not much plodding along in 1991. Mostly severe smashing. They left no doubt.

    (4) Washington @ Stanford PAC-10 W 42. 7
    (4) Washington @. (9) Nebraska Big 8. W. 36 21
    (4) Washington Kansas State Big 8. W 56 3
    (3) Washington Arizona Pac-10. W. 54. 0
    (3) Washington Toledo MAC W. 48. 0
    (3) Washington @. (7) California Pac-10. W. 24. 17
    (3) Washington Oregon Pac-10. W. 29. 7
    (3) Washington Arizona State Pac-10. W. 44. 16
    (2) Washington @. USC. Pac-10. W. 14. 3
    (3) Washington @. Oregon State Pac-10. W. 58. 6
    (2) Washington Wash State Pac-10. W. 56. 21
    (2) Washington N. (4) Michigan Big Ten. W. 34. 14
    The offense was good, but their greatest strength was that they could always count on getting the ball back and had time to get something working. They didn't start fast like this current UW team usually does. They didn't have to.
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