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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,587
    chuck said:

    It's still possible for Dipoto to salvage this mess as long as he can go into the $140s. It would take some smart moves.

    What moves would you make if you were Dipoto?
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,682
    HFNY said:

    chuck said:

    It's still possible for Dipoto to salvage this mess as long as he can go into the $140s. It would take some smart moves.

    What moves would you make if you were Dipoto?
    He may have to sign Snell to ship Woo/Miller for bats. I’m not a fan of this because of Snell’s command, but I’m on board if it can get a corner thumper.

    $70,000,000 per year…I guess money did matter. Belli and Chapman just got a lot richer, and probably some other guys too…the negotiations just got a lot tougher.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,682
    EDIT: Snell is really fucking good, don’t get me wrong. The game has changed sooooooo much, with count-leverage and sequencing. Snell’s shit is so good that he cuts against the trend, but five is five. He is a bullpen shredder…

    I would peg Bellinger to the Giants, and maybe Chapman as well. They whiffed on Correia, Judge, and now Shohei. Chapman has played for BoMel, they have money to burn, and a fan base/media that is not as forgiving as Seattle. The clubs that were in on Shohei will be wheeling and dealing now…I don’t include the M’s in that grouping
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,841 Swaye's Wigwam
    HFNY said:

    chuck said:

    It's still possible for Dipoto to salvage this mess as long as he can go into the $140s. It would take some smart moves.

    What moves would you make if you were Dipoto?
    Soler for 3-4 years would be the big $ move in FA

    Figure out a package that brings both Arozarena AND Parades. If this means you have to give up a top 3 prospect along with Miller and Hancock then do it. If thawork then Gilbert is in play.

    Swap a couple of lower tier prospects for outfield depth.

    Find a reclamation project starter or two and make them functional #5s.

    Find a high leverage bullpen arm or two.

    Hope like hell for health, further improvement by Julio and a rebirth for France.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,587
    chuck said:

    HFNY said:

    chuck said:

    It's still possible for Dipoto to salvage this mess as long as he can go into the $140s. It would take some smart moves.

    What moves would you make if you were Dipoto?
    Soler for 3-4 years would be the big $ move in FA

    Figure out a package that brings both Arozarena AND Parades. If this means you have to give up a top 3 prospect along with Miller and Hancock then do it. If thawork then Gilbert is in play.

    Swap a couple of lower tier prospects for outfield depth.

    Find a reclamation project starter or two and make them functional #5s.

    Find a high leverage bullpen arm or two.

    Hope like hell for health, further improvement by Julio and a rebirth for France.
    Soler will run about $15 million and Arozarena will probably be $9 million in arb so $24 million may take up most (if not all) of the FA budget if the M's are being as tight with money as I think they are.

    If they aren't as tight, maybe they really go for Bellinger to play LF (he can always move to 1B if Ty France stinks) and Tommy Pham as DH for $5 million (plus spelling Bellinger and Canzone in the OF). That would run about $31 million.

    I personally favor Soler and Arozarena & Paredes. That would solve LF, 3B, and DH while also increasing INF depth in moving Urias to a utility guy (he hits LHP well). But Arozarena & Paredes would cost at least Gilbert and a top position prospect while I'm not sure the M's FO is willing to trade a top pitcher.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,736 Founders Club
    edited December 2023
    Mariners the most profitable team in baseball despite being ~18th in payroll last year 😂
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,587
    M's trade for Naylor and then move Ty France and a lottery ticket to the White Sox for Eloy Jimenez? That would upgrade 1B and fill DH for about $24 million but I like Arozarena in LF and Paredes at 3B more.

    https://mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/cubs-mariners-pirates-interested-in-josh-naylor.html
  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,826 Founders Club
    edited December 2023
    given their ballpark and the chronic need for power, there is one guy out their that is a difference maker, and I create a deal pitching deal to get him and then sign him long term. Build the power around Pete Alonzo. Everything else they would do doesn't really matter without a long term power guy to build around. Get it done. Sign a 3rd baseman while you are at it.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,587

    given their ballpark and the chronic need for power, there is one guy out their that is a difference maker, and I create a deal pitching deal to get him and then sign him long term. Build the power around Pete Alonzo. Everything else they would do doesn't really matter without a long term power guy to build around. Get it done. Sign a 3rd baseman while you are at it.

    Alonzo would be a one year rental though as I doubt he'd sign an extension before hitting FA.