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The play calling today was fucking terrible

And has been all season long, IMO

Too many first down throws, too many screens, not enough QB runs/option looks.

Put fucking Miles and Lindquist in at the same time and run some crazy shit, I really don't care.

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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Nothing says great play calling like 2nd and 9.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    edited September 2014
    I think we all learned miles isn't much of a pocket passer....he was totally lost in the 4th....he needs to huddle up...the no huddle isn't his speed...
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Nothing says great play calling like 2nd and 9.

    Bubble screen can be a real bitch. ;)
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,209
    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    We really need to have more designed runs with Miles. I have no fucking idea why they didn't call many of those to keep the defense off balance. If Miles gets hurt but some other 4 star in
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    2nd half had too many incomplete passes on first down, one yard gain on second down and then hoping Miley converts a 3rd and 9. Although when we ran on both first and 2nd down it was still 3rd and 7. Way too many 3rd and longs though, which is exactly what this offense can't let happen.
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298
    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    That's why Washington looks good on defense against Stanford and have a win against Shaw. And why we thought UW should win today despite being outmanned
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,209

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    I think his point was that you need to run the ball more. Less incomplete on 1st and 10. Everyone and their two dads knew that UW was going to run on 2nd and 10. Get 3 yards on 1st, 3 yards on 2nd, and you're looking at a lot more manageable of a 3rd down than 3rd and fucking 9.

  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    Who said it had to be 19tickety2 style running?

    Teams that can establish a run, win. Furd put up around 200 yard on the ground against us today.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    jecornel said:

    I think we all learned miles isn't much of a pocket passer....he was totally lost in the 4th....he needs to huddle up...the no huddle isn't his speed...

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,209
    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    Who said it had to be 19tickety2 style running?

    Teams that can establish a run, win. Furd put up around 200 yard on the ground against us today.
    Furd has a relatively slow, lunch pail QB and they were doing a bunch of designed QB runs

    why the FUCK is Miles not taking off 10-15 times a game? Shit is reminding me of 2010, when Sark put an explosive devise in Locker's pads to force him to be a pure pocket passer.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    I think his point was that you need to run the ball more. Less incomplete on 1st and 10. Everyone and their two dads knew that UW was going to run on 2nd and 10. Get 3 yards on 1st, 3 yards on 2nd, and you're looking at a lot more manageable of a 3rd down than 3rd and fucking 9.

    So in the scenario you prefer we magically get 3 yards a carry but in the one you don't like it's magically 3rd and 9.

    I agree with RoadDawg that we probably threw to much on 1st down. But here's the thing you dopes don't realize. If you run on first and second down every time the other team will realize it and play to it. Those 3 yard gains are going to turn into 0 yard gains if you're predictable.

    If you have a great offensive line you can run as much as you want. When don't you can't be predictable.
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    That's why Washington looks good on defense against Stanford and have a win against Shaw. And why we thought UW should win today despite being outmanned
    I'd take Standford's style of play, over the UW's over the last 10 years.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,209

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    I think his point was that you need to run the ball more. Less incomplete on 1st and 10. Everyone and their two dads knew that UW was going to run on 2nd and 10. Get 3 yards on 1st, 3 yards on 2nd, and you're looking at a lot more manageable of a 3rd down than 3rd and fucking 9.

    So in the scenario you prefer we magically get 3 yards a carry but in the one you don't like it's magically 3rd and 9.

    I agree with RoadDawg that we probably threw to much on 1st down. But here's the thing you dopes don't realize. If you run on first and second down every time the other team will realize it and play to it. Those 3 yard gains are going to turn into 0 yard gains if you're predictable.

    If you have a great offensive line you can run as much as you want. When don't you can't be predictable.
    Obviously you would mix up the formations, and wouldn't run on 1st and 2nd every fucking time, dingus.

    UW seemed to abandon the run early in the game, and the plays they called were really vanilla
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    I think his point was that you need to run the ball more. Less incomplete on 1st and 10. Everyone and their two dads knew that UW was going to run on 2nd and 10. Get 3 yards on 1st, 3 yards on 2nd, and you're looking at a lot more manageable of a 3rd down than 3rd and fucking 9.

    So in the scenario you prefer we magically get 3 yards a carry but in the one you don't like it's magically 3rd and 9.

    I agree with RoadDawg that we probably threw to much on 1st down. But here's the thing you dopes don't realize. If you run on first and second down every time the other team will realize it and play to it. Those 3 yard gains are going to turn into 0 yard gains if you're predictable.

    If you have a great offensive line you can run as much as you want. When don't you can't be predictable.
    Running gets easier the more you do it, because it wears out the other team and your runners find the stride and tempo that works on that team.

    You can still pass to avoid being predictable, but passing as much as we did on 1st down is fucking stupid with this QB.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    That's why Washington looks good on defense against Stanford and have a win against Shaw. And why we thought UW should win today despite being outmanned
    I'd take Standford's every team in America's style of play, over the UW's over the last 10 years.
    Great low bar as always
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    I think his point was that you need to run the ball more. Less incomplete on 1st and 10. Everyone and their two dads knew that UW was going to run on 2nd and 10. Get 3 yards on 1st, 3 yards on 2nd, and you're looking at a lot more manageable of a 3rd down than 3rd and fucking 9.

    So in the scenario you prefer we magically get 3 yards a carry but in the one you don't like it's magically 3rd and 9.

    I agree with RoadDawg that we probably threw to much on 1st down. But here's the thing you dopes don't realize. If you run on first and second down every time the other team will realize it and play to it. Those 3 yard gains are going to turn into 0 yard gains if you're predictable.

    If you have a great offensive line you can run as much as you want. When don't you can't be predictable.
    Running gets easier the more you do it, because it wears out the other team and your runners find the stride and tempo that works on that team.

    You can still pass to avoid being predictable, but passing as much as we did on 1st down is fucking stupid with this QB.
    You what else makes running easier? Passing.
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    That's why Washington looks good on defense against Stanford and have a win against Shaw. And why we thought UW should win today despite being outmanned
    I'd take Standford's every team in America's style of play, over the UW's over the last 10 years.
    Great low bar as always
    Didn't realize winning Rose Bowls, Pac 10 championships, and BCS bowls was a low bar.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited September 2014
    The players on offense are horrific. I just don't see how Smith can fix it with playcalling
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    I think his point was that you need to run the ball more. Less incomplete on 1st and 10. Everyone and their two dads knew that UW was going to run on 2nd and 10. Get 3 yards on 1st, 3 yards on 2nd, and you're looking at a lot more manageable of a 3rd down than 3rd and fucking 9.

    So in the scenario you prefer we magically get 3 yards a carry but in the one you don't like it's magically 3rd and 9.

    I agree with RoadDawg that we probably threw to much on 1st down. But here's the thing you dopes don't realize. If you run on first and second down every time the other team will realize it and play to it. Those 3 yard gains are going to turn into 0 yard gains if you're predictable.

    If you have a great offensive line you can run as much as you want. When don't you can't be predictable.
    Running gets easier the more you do it, because it wears out the other team and your runners find the stride and tempo that works on that team.

    You can still pass to avoid being predictable, but passing as much as we did on 1st down is fucking stupid with this QB.
    You what else makes running easier? Passing.
    That's the same thing Sark's defenders use to claim.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,209
    dhdawg said:

    The players on offense are horrific. I just don't see how Smith can fix it with playcalling

    the fuck u talking about?

    we have amazing skill players, good RBs, experienced OL, quick QBs that can run

    Smith is the issue.

    And even if what you say is true, Smith is still the issue because he has been coaching them the past 6 months
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298
    dhdawg said:

    The players on offense are horrific. I just don't see how Smith can fix it with playcalling

    True. It would probably help if they were coached up to execute the called plays.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    That's why Washington looks good on defense against Stanford and have a win against Shaw. And why we thought UW should win today despite being outmanned
    I'd take Standford's every team in America's style of play, over the UW's over the last 10 years.
    Great low bar as always
    Didn't realize winning Rose Bowls, Pac 10 championships, and BCS bowls was a low bar.
    You were losing Washington as the bar. HTH

    Buddy Teevens and I enjoyed your post though
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    It's not 19tickety2 anymore. 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't work. If you think you're going to wear out these guys, that play no huddle teams all year long with 3 and outs, you are mistaken.
    I think his point was that you need to run the ball more. Less incomplete on 1st and 10. Everyone and their two dads knew that UW was going to run on 2nd and 10. Get 3 yards on 1st, 3 yards on 2nd, and you're looking at a lot more manageable of a 3rd down than 3rd and fucking 9.

    So in the scenario you prefer we magically get 3 yards a carry but in the one you don't like it's magically 3rd and 9.

    I agree with RoadDawg that we probably threw to much on 1st down. But here's the thing you dopes don't realize. If you run on first and second down every time the other team will realize it and play to it. Those 3 yard gains are going to turn into 0 yard gains if you're predictable.

    If you have a great offensive line you can run as much as you want. When don't you can't be predictable.
    Running gets easier the more you do it, because it wears out the other team and your runners find the stride and tempo that works on that team.

    You can still pass to avoid being predictable, but passing as much as we did on 1st down is fucking stupid with this QB.
    You what else makes running easier? Passing.
    That's the same thing Sark's defenders use to claim.
    So you're admitting that you know less about football than Sark defenders?
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298
    edited September 2014

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    That's why Washington looks good on defense against Stanford and have a win against Shaw. And why we thought UW should win today despite being outmanned
    I'd take Standford's every team in America's style of play, over the UW's over the last 10 years.
    Great low bar as always
    Didn't realize winning Rose Bowls, Pac 10 championships, and BCS bowls was a low bar.
    You were losing Washington as the bar. HTH

    Buddy Teevens and I enjoyed your post though
    Actually, I was using Stanford, and other teams that know how to run. Way to keep up.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    That's why Washington looks good on defense against Stanford and have a win against Shaw. And why we thought UW should win today despite being outmanned
    I'd take Standford's every team in America's style of play, over the UW's over the last 10 years.
    Great low bar as always
    Didn't realize winning Rose Bowls, Pac 10 championships, and BCS bowls was a low bar.
    You were losing Washington as the bar. HTH

    Buddy Teevens and I enjoyed your post though
    Actually, I was using Stanford, and other teams that know how to run. Way to keep up.
    You said you would take Stanford over UW over the last ten years, the worst ten years in the history of Husky football. I said we'd take anyone. Hence UW was the measuring stick

    Did you attend Stanford on a special needs schollie?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    edited September 2014
    Where did I read recently that winners run the ball, but running teams don't necessarily win.
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298
    edited September 2014

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    uzi said:

    dhdawg said:

    Can't throw short, can't throw deep, can't run outside, can't run inside. I get it though, smith is supposed to work some sort of magic

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    You hit them hard and you run.

    Even if you go 3 and out, you start to wear down the other team.
    That's why Washington looks good on defense against Stanford and have a win against Shaw. And why we thought UW should win today despite being outmanned
    I'd take Standford's every team in America's style of play, over the UW's over the last 10 years.
    Great low bar as always
    Didn't realize winning Rose Bowls, Pac 10 championships, and BCS bowls was a low bar.
    You were losing Washington as the bar. HTH

    Buddy Teevens and I enjoyed your post though
    Actually, I was using Stanford, and other teams that know how to run. Way to keep up.
    You said you would take Stanford over UW over the last ten years, the worst ten years in the history of Husky football. I said we'd take anyone. Hence UW was the measuring stick

    Did you attend Stanford on a special needs schollie?
    It was also Stanford's best 10 years in this history of their team. Running the fucking ball.