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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,773 Standard Supporter
    Mad_Son said:

    USC bored is all in on Jimmy Lake

    I have high confidence that Lake would love to work under Jen again.
    That’s gross

    True but gross.
  • OreDawg
    OreDawg Member Posts: 699
    chuck said:

    bisonduck said:

    If Sark fires Holt and brings in Wilcocks with his offense UW will roll!!!!


    It's not the coordinator

    Why firing Inge or whoever it is, won’t matter either.
    Who’s the problem on defense?
    UW doesn't have much in the way of NFL talent on defense.

    Some HCs never have good defenses. I hope not, but it's possible/probable that Deboer is one of those HCs. It obviously doesn't mean he can't win in spite of it, but it would/will prevent him from ever being a truly dominant team

    No worries. UW has yet to be in serious contention for highly sought after defensive players in the portal. About half of the board swears that the portal is going to fix it though.
    Until proven otherwise, I think Deboer is a merciless winner and will do what needs to be done to fix the defense.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,370
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    bisonduck said:

    If Sark fires Holt and brings in Wilcocks with his offense UW will roll!!!!


    It's not the coordinator

    Why firing Inge or whoever it is, won’t matter either.
    Who’s the problem on defense?
    UW doesn't have much in the way of NFL talent on defense.

    Some HCs never have good defenses. I hope not, but it's possible/probable that Deboer is one of those HCs. It obviously doesn't mean he can't win in spite of it, but it would/will prevent him from ever being a truly dominant team

    No worries. UW has yet to be in serious contention for highly sought after defensive players in the portal. About half of the board swears that the portal is going to fix it though.
    New money and this success will.
    Well I hope so too, but I'll have to see it first.
    Big dick boosters probably had to pay a lot to keep penix, odunze, McMillan, trice and maybe fautanu. Adding Muhammad and DJ was probably not cheap either. This is more of a rebuild year so hopefully we sign more of the Muhammad's of the world on defense along with a qb.

    Problem with the portal is there are limited players with the blue bloods all pursuing them so it's not a safe bet at all. Our entire defense is likely void of difference makers next year as it stands. Maybe trice returns and reverts to his old form somehow.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,835 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    bisonduck said:

    If Sark fires Holt and brings in Wilcocks with his offense UW will roll!!!!


    It's not the coordinator

    Why firing Inge or whoever it is, won’t matter either.
    Who’s the problem on defense?
    UW doesn't have much in the way of NFL talent on defense.

    Some HCs never have good defenses. I hope not, but it's possible/probable that Deboer is one of those HCs. It obviously doesn't mean he can't win in spite of it, but it would/will prevent him from ever being a truly dominant team

    No worries. UW has yet to be in serious contention for highly sought after defensive players in the portal. About half of the board swears that the portal is going to fix it though.
    New money and this success will.
    Well I hope so too, but I'll have to see it first.
    Big dick boosters probably had to pay a lot to keep penix, odunze, McMillan, trice and maybe fautanu. Adding Muhammad and DJ was probably not cheap either. This is more of a rebuild year so hopefully we sign more of the Muhammad's of the world on defense along with a qb.

    Problem with the portal is there are limited players with the blue bloods all pursuing them so it's not a safe bet at all. Our entire defense is likely void of difference makers next year as it stands. Maybe trice returns and reverts to his old form somehow.
    Exactly.

    Maybe I'm off base here, but I don't think Muhammed, Penix, or Johnson were real hot commodities in the portal. UW wasn't bidding against blue bloods for any of them.

    If the portal is to be the savior year after years as so many seem convinced of, then UW is going to have to raise the bar, just as much with it as with HS recruiting.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,938
    Where in the world was new athletic director Jennifer Cohen? She could have pushed Riley earlier to make the tough call on his pal.

    LA Times columnist Bill Plaschke gets it.

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/story/2023-11-05/lincoln-riley-keeping-alex-grinch-lost-season#nt=0000016b-f6a0-d805-abff-f6f8699e0002-showMedia-liH0promoSmall-7030col2
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,835 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    bisonduck said:

    If Sark fires Holt and brings in Wilcocks with his offense UW will roll!!!!


    It's not the coordinator

    Why firing Inge or whoever it is, won’t matter either.
    Who’s the problem on defense?
    UW doesn't have much in the way of NFL talent on defense.

    Some HCs never have good defenses. I hope not, but it's possible/probable that Deboer is one of those HCs. It obviously doesn't mean he can't win in spite of it, but it would/will prevent him from ever being a truly dominant team

    No worries. UW has yet to be in serious contention for highly sought after defensive players in the portal. About half of the board swears that the portal is going to fix it though.
    New money and this success will.
    Well I hope so too, but I'll have to see it first.
    Big dick boosters probably had to pay a lot to keep penix, odunze, McMillan, trice and maybe fautanu. Adding Muhammad and DJ was probably not cheap either. This is more of a rebuild year so hopefully we sign more of the Muhammad's of the world on defense along with a qb.

    Problem with the portal is there are limited players with the blue bloods all pursuing them so it's not a safe bet at all. Our entire defense is likely void of difference makers next year as it stands. Maybe trice returns and reverts to his old form somehow.
    Exactly.

    Maybe I'm off base here, but I don't think Muhammed, Penix, or Johnson were real hot commodities in the portal. UW wasn't bidding against blue bloods for any of them.

    If the portal is to be the savior year after years as so many seem convinced of, then UW is going to have to raise the bar, just as much with it as with HS recruiting.
    You're off base on Muhammed and Johnson. Muhammed was a Big-12 all-conference CB, there are about 5 schools total that wouldn't want him on the roster.

    UW reached out to him with a bag, apparently, or he contacted UW? Either way Okie State message boards were saying he was getting 50k lump sum to transfer plus an undisclosed amount per game he started.

    Johnson also had a ton of options in the portal.

    Who knows with Penix, apparently he shut down communication with other programs when his old mentor DeBoer reached out. But he was coming off 3 straight injuries and had warranted concerns about being a glass cannon. Officially, UCF was his only other offer listed.
    You didn't write anything that comes close to refuting what I said. You cited speculation by Okie St fans and his resume. Where is the evidence that anyone above UW in the portal recruiting rankings even pursued him?