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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    …what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

    For me it's less about what is enforced and more about standardizing the playing field

    What I probably underestimated about NIL is the importance of bringing the money above table ... similar to people who just simply won't fly there are people that simply won't participate in illegal behavior. However, as soon as you bring it above board where there's at least an illusion of goods/services being exchanged and just as importantly the funds can be used to assist with taxes ... all of a sudden you get people willing to step up in the name of capitalism

    It still feels like there needs to be a bit of work done to smooth out how talent gets spread out given that there's a high regional aspect to where players come from

    I'm all for each school in theory having the ability to differentiate themselves a bit differently than another ...

    There's still a lot of loop holes out there when you look at the athletes as employees perspective
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club

    The NFL peaked in the early 90s when DeBartolo and Jones fought to win at any cost. The loser owners wanted a salary cap and luxury tax. Bunch of commies

    Who knew that free market capitalism football would end up in college.

    No salary cap. No rules. Just win

    I don't want a minor league NFL but all the good intentions are paving this road

    I prefer under the table illusion of purity but it is what it is

    No bullshit tax payer money for Husky Stadium right? We had to pay for that ourselves.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,241 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    …what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

    For me it's less about what is enforced and more about standardizing the playing field

    What I probably underestimated about NIL is the importance of bringing the money above table ... similar to people who just simply won't fly there are people that simply won't participate in illegal behavior. However, as soon as you bring it above board where there's at least an illusion of goods/services being exchanged and just as importantly the funds can be used to assist with taxes ... all of a sudden you get people willing to step up in the name of capitalism

    It still feels like there needs to be a bit of work done to smooth out how talent gets spread out given that there's a high regional aspect to where players come from

    I'm all for each school in theory having the ability to differentiate themselves a bit differently than another ...

    There's still a lot of loop holes out there when you look at the athletes as employees perspective
    The above board aspect also opens things up for smaller donors to give directly to players through UW’s NIL website. I’m sure other schools have a similar set up.

    This is an apples and oranges comparison between UW in a major city with 3 major and 2 minor pro sports team and UK in Lexington with no competition but there are plenty of billboards around town here with UK football and basketball players.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    …what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

    For me it's less about what is enforced and more about standardizing the playing field

    What I probably underestimated about NIL is the importance of bringing the money above table ... similar to people who just simply won't fly there are people that simply won't participate in illegal behavior. However, as soon as you bring it above board where there's at least an illusion of goods/services being exchanged and just as importantly the funds can be used to assist with taxes ... all of a sudden you get people willing to step up in the name of capitalism

    It still feels like there needs to be a bit of work done to smooth out how talent gets spread out given that there's a high regional aspect to where players come from

    I'm all for each school in theory having the ability to differentiate themselves a bit differently than another ...

    There's still a lot of loop holes out there when you look at the athletes as employees perspective
    The above board aspect also opens things up for smaller donors to give directly to players through UW’s NIL website. I’m sure other schools have a similar set up.

    This is an apples and oranges comparison between UW in a major city with 3 major and 2 minor pro sports team and UK in Lexington with no competition but there are plenty of billboards around town here with UK football and basketball players.
    UK basketball is Bama football
  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912

    ntxduck said:

    …what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

    Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?
    Me
    Count me in. Adapt or die.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    …what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

    For me it's less about what is enforced and more about standardizing the playing field

    What I probably underestimated about NIL is the importance of bringing the money above table ... similar to people who just simply won't fly there are people that simply won't participate in illegal behavior. However, as soon as you bring it above board where there's at least an illusion of goods/services being exchanged and just as importantly the funds can be used to assist with taxes ... all of a sudden you get people willing to step up in the name of capitalism

    It still feels like there needs to be a bit of work done to smooth out how talent gets spread out given that there's a high regional aspect to where players come from

    I'm all for each school in theory having the ability to differentiate themselves a bit differently than another ...

    There's still a lot of loop holes out there when you look at the athletes as employees perspective
    Thank you for articulating what I was trying to get at - standardization is a better word for this.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    I can't imagine giving money directly to a player. I've always hated the kids.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,086



    I prefer under the table illusion of purity but it is what it is

    Even @GrandpaSankey can see the purity has been fucked out of this one a long time ago.
    I'm not sure it was ever there, but at least 15 or 20 years ago there were consequences. Call me a square, but there ought to be rules with some teeth. Otherwise it's just a corporate free for all with the SEC (up until this year maybe) just cheating and buying their way to the top. Hell, even ESPN cheats for them. It's one reason I've gradually tuned out anything but the Pac 12. The same thing happened with CBB around 2010 but for different reasons. We have the ridiculous situation of West Coast schools now being in Midwest and East Coast conferences. That's not college athletics. I don't get why people are giddy about it.
    Geez, old Billy. I’ll get off your lawn.

    But I agree. One year it’s the fiesta bowl and the next it’s the Tostitos fiesta bowl. Beginning of the end in my millennial mind.

    Money, greed, ruined. Though I’ll still be tuning in at 7p tonight because I’m a loser.