The defense is not dominating
They got better through last season and they will do the same this year. Football is all situational now and the shut down D is a thing of the past.
With PENIX and the offense this D can be good enough.
What Penix did yesterday and what he has done is generational. Enjoy it. Depending on how it plays out he can become the GOAT at UW and the last great Pac 12 QB
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Pete had TUFF defenses, and a puffy little ginage of an offense.
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Yeah, the defense is B-/C+ level. They will probably have a few games where they will play at A- level. Hopefully we avoid any D level games. I have hope that part of the issue yesterday was that they game planned to keep the qb from running. The edges dropped back a lot instead of rushing.
As for Penix, he's probably the best QB I'll see at UW in my lifetime. Hope we take advantage of his talent this year. -
Anybody remember that incredible LSU defense in 2019 when Joe Burreaux threw 60 TD passes and and Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase caught almost 40 of 'em combined?
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Dropped pass played a big role in yesterday's game.
Against USC, those are first downs.
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The Penix throw to Polk just short of the goal line at the open end of the stadium is one of best throws I’ve ever seen in person. That throw was stunning.
The db room better have a hunger for competition. Outside of Jabar other guys will have opportunities to win a starting job. Plenty of items to correct on defense.
The o-line needs tweaking and they did some tinkering. Johnson didn’t look great but the defense got in the backfield quickly. The rb’s weren’t given much day light. -
outside of one conference, yes.RaceBannon said:Football is all situational now and the shut down D is a thing of the past.
this team is good enough to make the playoffs talent wise IMO. Little concerned a one dimensional O and subpar D against a Georgia might look eerily similar to UW - Alabama 2016.
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D just needs to be good in pieces rather than a whole unit. Be opportunistic and get big plays here and there to give the offense a chance to get ahead.
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banks is out to take a job he brought it yesterdayjecornel said:The Penix throw to Polk just short of the goal line at the open end of the stadium is one of best throws I’ve ever seen in person. That throw was stunning.
The db room better have a hunger for competition. Outside of Jabar other guys will have opportunities to win a starting job. Plenty of items to correct on defense.
The o-line needs tweaking and they did some tinkering. Johnson didn’t look great but the defense got in the backfield quickly. The rb’s weren’t given much day light. -
Yeah Banks and Nixon should absolutely be #1s on the depth chart on Monday. I know coaches act like depth charts don't matter but in both cases you had backups that performed and starters who absolutely sucked (Jackson and Johnson)WilburHooksHands said:
banks is out to take a job he brought it yesterdayjecornel said:The Penix throw to Polk just short of the goal line at the open end of the stadium is one of best throws I’ve ever seen in person. That throw was stunning.
The db room better have a hunger for competition. Outside of Jabar other guys will have opportunities to win a starting job. Plenty of items to correct on defense.
The o-line needs tweaking and they did some tinkering. Johnson didn’t look great but the defense got in the backfield quickly. The rb’s weren’t given much day light. -
Nixon gave a pretty good Wayne T impersonation yesterday.jecornel said:Johnson didn’t look great but the defense got in the backfield quickly. The rb’s weren’t given much day light.
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Jackson's "performance" was worrisome yesterday.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah Banks and Nixon should absolutely be #1s on the depth chart on Monday. I know coaches act like depth charts don't matter but in both cases you had backups that performed and starters who absolutely sucked (Jackson and Johnson)WilburHooksHands said:
banks is out to take a job he brought it yesterdayjecornel said:The Penix throw to Polk just short of the goal line at the open end of the stadium is one of best throws I’ve ever seen in person. That throw was stunning.
The db room better have a hunger for competition. Outside of Jabar other guys will have opportunities to win a starting job. Plenty of items to correct on defense.
The o-line needs tweaking and they did some tinkering. Johnson didn’t look great but the defense got in the backfield quickly. The rb’s weren’t given much day light.
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Banks didn't start? Shit, that guy played well. I assumed he was the starter, and I was going to grade the outside corners at an A, believe it or not. Outside of Penix and the receivers, I was shocked to see the outside corners as so solid. They were making plays on the ball, and even when they were beaten, they were tight enough to not allow YAC. You can't really ask for more than that. Nickels and safeties were giving up a lot of plays, and something about the scheme makes them susceptible to the screen game.
D-Line did alright at times and got pushed around at others. Ulofoshio had a nice sack, but he also gave up a TD to a stiff-arm/missed tackle and failed to cover the back out of the backfield for a huge gain (he eventually made the tackle something like 40 yards downfield). Good things continue to happen when Bruener is on the field, yet there's a force field between that guy and the starting lineup.
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rewatching now and muhammed played well, he and banks played 10x better than anything we saw last year at any point
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Yeah, he got worked on a few occasions.Geevis_and_Butthead said:
Jackson's "performance" was worrisome yesterday.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah Banks and Nixon should absolutely be #1s on the depth chart on Monday. I know coaches act like depth charts don't matter but in both cases you had backups that performed and starters who absolutely sucked (Jackson and Johnson)WilburHooksHands said:
banks is out to take a job he brought it yesterdayjecornel said:The Penix throw to Polk just short of the goal line at the open end of the stadium is one of best throws I’ve ever seen in person. That throw was stunning.
The db room better have a hunger for competition. Outside of Jabar other guys will have opportunities to win a starting job. Plenty of items to correct on defense.
The o-line needs tweaking and they did some tinkering. Johnson didn’t look great but the defense got in the backfield quickly. The rb’s weren’t given much day light.
He looked lost in coverage and incapable of making a one-on-one tackle in space -
The offense doesn't need to score a TD every possession, so that's a good start. The biggest thing the defense can do is get some sacks and force a couple turnovers. They'll still give up some points.
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We also need to stop looking at yards/game stats when it comes to the defense. They will look bad at times because the offense scores so fast that the game has a ton of possessions. Need to look at everything on a per drive basis.
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Basically, if UW holds opponents to around 28 points, they win. That applies to every opponent on the roster.
If they hold USC, Oregon, Utah, to 35, they win.
There is simply not a better or more talented passing offense in the country. And it's all on schedule. Not scrambling around making playground plays.
UW averaged 44 pts in P12 play last year and the only teams to hold them under 30 were Or. St. and Cal.
Defense is better this year and I think the offense is better too.
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He’s horrible , absolutely no growth from last seasonGeevis_and_Butthead said:
Jackson's "performance" was worrisome yesterday.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah Banks and Nixon should absolutely be #1s on the depth chart on Monday. I know coaches act like depth charts don't matter but in both cases you had backups that performed and starters who absolutely sucked (Jackson and Johnson)WilburHooksHands said:
banks is out to take a job he brought it yesterdayjecornel said:The Penix throw to Polk just short of the goal line at the open end of the stadium is one of best throws I’ve ever seen in person. That throw was stunning.
The db room better have a hunger for competition. Outside of Jabar other guys will have opportunities to win a starting job. Plenty of items to correct on defense.
The o-line needs tweaking and they did some tinkering. Johnson didn’t look great but the defense got in the backfield quickly. The rb’s weren’t given much day light.
He looked lost in coverage and incapable of making a one-on-one tackle in space -
Did Powell play at all? Or ZTF? Or Tuputala?
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All I know is that one of those guys is keeping Heims seat warm while he gets his reads down. Enough said on that
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Dillon Johnson is probably still hobbled by his knee. Look at his highlights while at Mississippi. He had better burst than he showed yesterday. I would sit him next week.
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Powell had a pass break up I believe. ZTF was literally invisible. I thought Voi T. had the best motor yesterday. I wanted to see Heims as well.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Did Powell play at all? Or ZTF? Or Tuputala?
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Would like to see Bruener get a bit more run out there with the first unit. Kid plays with his hair on fire. Tuputala continues to underwhelm despite all the hype IMO...
It's still incredible how mediocre the group of Tuli, Bandes, Ale, Tui are in the middle...
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Secondary looks improved and MJ Ale looked like an actually guy yesterday. That was a fun development. ZTF doesn't have the same twitch/bend sinc his injury, need more heat up the middle to make up for it!
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The open field tackling still leaves a lot to be desired. Overall they looked quicker and hit harder than I saw at any time last years and the two outside corners were pretty lockdown
I'm not gay for Asa and his flowing locks like a few of you guys, but I will grant that the TFL he made was a spectacular play. He came in fast and with a purpose on that one. That's the kind of physical talent the dude has. Hopefully he keeps being willing to put it to use
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Interior d line was fine yesterday. Nothing up the middle and when we did get pressure they were the ones applying it.BroadcastingDawg said:Would like to see Bruener get a bit more run out there with the first unit. Kid plays with his hair on fire. Tuputala continues to underwhelm despite all the hype IMO...
It's still incredible how mediocre the group of Tuli, Bandes, Ale, Tui are in the middle... -
Yeah the only way boise was scoring more than 2 touchdowns was Green being able to get outside the pocket.chuck said:The open field tackling still leaves a lot to be desired. Overall they looked quicker and hit harder than I saw at any time last years and the two outside corners were pretty lockdown
I'm not gay for Asa and his flowing locks like a few of you guys, but I will grant that the TFL he made was a spectacular play. He came in fast and with a purpose on that one. That's the kind of physical talent the dude has. Hopefully he keeps being willing to put it to use
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We have a quarterback!!! We have enough to win this pathetic conference
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Ztf was actually setting the edge a few times. The gameplan from Boise was clearly to get the ball out in about a second so I'm not worried about the pass rush
