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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Might as well go independent, we might be able generate the same level of not more haha
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,847 Standard Supporter
    I reported on this two days ago. First and right, per my super secret Twitter X sources.

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/1837189#Comment_1837189
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,847 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    Let's summarize the key financial terms:


    • $20M base annual rights from Apple for the duration of the contract ($240M total at 12 programs)
    • Subscription fee of $1/qtr depending on certain key subscriber thresholds met
    • Newbies will receive a half of their share of related revenue over the duration of the contract
    • A pool of money ($70M) will be leveraged by the conference as a whole to cover the Comcast related debt and the estimated related buyouts of the newbies
    Key Assumptions that I'm making in the calculation:
    • Assuming an average subscriber base at between 20M-30M average annual subscribers and that that threshold is maintained throughout the duration of the agreement (will quantify what the impact of going up/down a level is)
    • Assuming that the newbies will give up half of their share of both the $20M base annual rights AND the subscriber contribution bonus from Apple
    • Scenarios run with adding 3 teams (assumes Arizona stays) and 4 teams (assumes Arizona goes to the Big12 as expected)
    There are 3 basic tranches of payments: Big Fish (UW/Ore/Utah), remaining PAC teams, and Newbies

    The basic financial formula is as follows:

    Base Rights Fee + Subscriber Bonus +/- "Newcomer Tax" = Recurring Annual Revenue over life of contract
    There are way too many variables that would need to align for this to be close to a mediocre deal for UW. If UW signs off on this we? are screwed if the auto-berth goes away.

    The assumptions about tiers for payouts, is that actually being reported as in the deal? Or is this just an assumption being made based on what other conferences have done? I would be mildly surprised if the west coast institutions have it in them to create haves and have nots given the culture of the campuses.

    If UW can pull $40 mil per year I would take it with an escape clause after 2-3 years to align with a move to the Big 10. That $40 mil number seems to be based on wildly optimistic subscriber counts, though. No way in hell 20 million people are signing up for streaming.
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  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,924 Founders Club
    I hear they have it worked into the contract that Ted Lasso will do P12 plugs during the new episodes. It’s gonna be some great hype!
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,817 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    No one fucking cares

    You're right.

    I don't give a flying fuck about the money in this bullshit scenario.

    If no one wants UW in their big time football conference then just fucking cancel the program already.

    RowBoat has plenty of cash and will survive.
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  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,441
    AtomicDawg said:

    One interesting thing is this would be devastating to UW pac12 hoops. I know this is far down the totem pole of things to care about. Just interesting that fox and espn would basically be out of the west coast college hoops business minus some Gonzaga games. No way Arizona stays imo.

    They shoot horses, don't they?
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,242
    AtomicDawg said:

    One interesting thing is this would be devastating to pac12 hoops. I know this is far down the totem pole of things to care about. Just interesting that fox and espn would basically be out of the west coast college hoops business minus some Gonzaga games. No way Arizona stays imo.

    In the end this is why I’ve never thought Arizona would stay in the PAC as without UCLA around it’s a huge gap for hoops in perception

    Somebody needs to grab their balls and make the right move
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,242
    haie said:

    MHver3. lol.

    Utah wouldn't even be part of the luxury group with Oregon and Washington, so he fucked that up in his big horseshit story.

    UW is accepting a B1G invite so none of this matters. Both Arizona schools would laugh at anything close to this and kill this league.

    No one gives a fuck about the coug that story came and went over 6 months ago.

    1) Schools have to have options open to them to leave … lots of reports out there that the B12 isn’t wanting to go to 16 with the 3 corner schools

    2) Utah getting more to the point if equal or more than the B12 numbers can effectively leave ASU in a bind

    3) Terms puts a number out there that UW/Oregon need to get from the Big10

    Hate the source but it’s been more accurate then you care to admit … was calling out Colorado a long time ago
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