PAC Deal Framework
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@haiehaie said:
There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.
It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?
TL;really haven’t read a lot.
But PAC is in a world of hurt without exposure (cams)…I have actually from
souf depended on late night at least the hated! Sec fuckwads!!! “ESPN” on at least ONE of their networks to bring me a late night game, after all day dranking, at least, like the rest of our “country ass” over here, for at least ONE game. One.
“PAC 12 ‘after dark’… I’m at least one of a few mil that would stay up and watch.
The worry now is, who’s going to bring that. It’s fading faster than Marilyn Monroe tits… -
Sad but true, @ntxduck
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Sweet merciful crap...SECDAWG said:
@haiehaie said:
There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.
It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?
TL;really haven’t read a lot.
But PAC is in a world of hurt without exposure (cams)…I have actually from
souf depended on late night at least the hated! Sec fuckwads!!! “ESPN” on at least ONE of their networks to bring me a late night game, after all day dranking, at least, like the rest of our “country ass” over here, for at least ONE game. One.
“PAC 12 ‘after dark’… I’m at least one of a few mil that would stay up and watch.
The worry now is, who’s going to bring that. It’s fading faster than Marilyn Monroe tits…
At this point, I'm going right past asking for a translation and instead asking for a zoologist to tell me what species I'm dealing with here. -
What exactly part don’t you understand, hammer?1to392831weretaken said:
Sweet merciful crap...SECDAWG said:
@haiehaie said:
There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.
It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?
TL;really haven’t read a lot.
But PAC is in a world of hurt without exposure (cams)…I have actually from
souf depended on late night at least the hated! Sec fuckwads!!! “ESPN” on at least ONE of their networks to bring me a late night game, after all day dranking, at least, like the rest of our “country ass” over here, for at least ONE game. One.
“PAC 12 ‘after dark’… I’m at least one of a few mil that would stay up and watch.
The worry now is, who’s going to bring that. It’s fading faster than Marilyn Monroe tits…
At this point, I'm going right past asking for a translation and instead asking for a zoologist to tell me what species I'm dealing with here. -
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The part starting with TL and ending with tits ...SECDAWG said:
What exactly part don’t you understand, hammer?1to392831weretaken said:
Sweet merciful crap...SECDAWG said:
@haiehaie said:
There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.
It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?
TL;really haven’t read a lot.
But PAC is in a world of hurt without exposure (cams)…I have actually from
souf depended on late night at least the hated! Sec fuckwads!!! “ESPN” on at least ONE of their networks to bring me a late night game, after all day dranking, at least, like the rest of our “country ass” over here, for at least ONE game. One.
“PAC 12 ‘after dark’… I’m at least one of a few mil that would stay up and watch.
The worry now is, who’s going to bring that. It’s fading faster than Marilyn Monroe tits…
At this point, I'm going right past asking for a translation and instead asking for a zoologist to tell me what species I'm dealing with here.
I will say that you have a unique ability to put words (that I fully understand, individually) together in a manner that makes absolutely zero fucking sense. -
Pete was my boss many moons agoRaceBannon said:Guarantee fuck nuts like this don't watch football. Lot of support on Twitter for Apple. Like there was for the innovative Pac 12 network. Uw stays they die. If they die they die
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Sounds like a dangerous road game.haie said:
There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.
It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins? -
Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod. -
In reality people make to big a deal about flying time and distance. The reason regional matchups matter is because of culture and history not because it take an extra hour to get somewhere
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Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.godawgst said:
Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league. -
Vtech is a legitimate program with support. These decisions aren't based on the past 3 years of on field performancehaie said:
Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.godawgst said:
Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league. -
Madison isnt terrible, but what about Maryland, Rutgers, college station?Canadawg said:In reality people make to big a deal about flying time and distance. The reason regional matchups matter is because of culture and history not because it take an extra hour to get somewhere
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Meh. It’s not like you’d have to do it every year. With a 20-team conference you could figure a scheduling system that is doable.79smoothdawg said:
Madison isnt terrible, but what about Maryland, Rutgers, college station?Canadawg said:In reality people make to big a deal about flying time and distance. The reason regional matchups matter is because of culture and history not because it take an extra hour to get somewhere
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Total travel time does matter though. The 30-90 minute bus ride to the airport, the connecting flight, all that adds up.Canadawg said:In reality people make to big a deal about flying time and distance. The reason regional matchups matter is because of culture and history not because it take an extra hour to get somewhere
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Not really.Canadawg said:
Vtech is a legitimate program with support. These decisions aren't based on the past 3 years of on field performancehaie said:
Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.godawgst said:
Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league. -
Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford
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Waiting for Fleenor to report after working the phones and talking to his golf buddies.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford
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Is Bill still swinging those Rifle 7.0 broomsticks in his irons? Report back when you hear something.PurpleBaze said:
Waiting for Fleenor to report after working the phones and talking to his golf buddies.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford
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Cal and Stanford should drop football and join wccPostGameOrangeSlices said:Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford
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Big if truePostGameOrangeSlices said:Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford
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In a world where we have two 20ish team leagues I'd say Vtech is comfortably a top 30 team so there would be a little sizzle there. The future of CFB isn't going to have only elite teamsntxduck said:
Not really.Canadawg said:
Vtech is a legitimate program with support. These decisions aren't based on the past 3 years of on field performancehaie said:
Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.godawgst said:
Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league. -
I could see the Big Ten taking Georgia Tech for the Atlanta market.Canadawg said:
In a world where we have two 20ish team leagues I'd say Vtech is comfortably a top 30 team so there would be a little sizzle there. The future of CFB isn't going to have only elite teamsntxduck said:
Not really.Canadawg said:
Vtech is a legitimate program with support. These decisions aren't based on the past 3 years of on field performancehaie said:
Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.godawgst said:
Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.doogville said:
Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…haie said:
They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.ntxduck said:The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)
Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.
No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league.
I think VTech is destined for the SEC mega conference -
It's the "box" and a streaming service.TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:
the reason I ask is that "Apple TV" is literally the apple TV box that you buy that enables you to download various apps that you can subscribe to. -
Some of you think of VT the way east coast people think of coug.
Outside of 1 legendary coach, they’re nothing. I’m pretty sure they don’t sell VT gear that isn’t in camo -
Disagreentxduck said:Some of you think of VT the way east coast people think of coug.
Outside of 1 legendary coach, they’re nothing. I’m pretty sure they don’t sell VT gear that isn’t in camo
https://www.winsipedia.com/virginia-tech/vs/washington-state
17th all-tim in wins vs 78th -
UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.
This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.
Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.
That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.
Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.
Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.
If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.
This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.
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So…….it’ll never happen…it’s too nice for us(?)Kingdome_Urinals said:UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.
This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.
Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.
That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.
Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.
Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.
If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.
This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted. -
So all this destruction to form a 20 team super conference with a Pac Division and a Big Division that plays in the rose bowl to decide the champion.
Where have I seen this before? -
Aside from being the obvious best fit for the B1G in all aspects, the MSU game opened their eyes a bit on the value it would bring their conference to get Seattle with a competitive team.Kingdome_Urinals said:UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.
This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.
Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.
That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.
Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.
Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.
If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.
This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.
