Oh yay
Fuck this piece of shit conference.
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Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.
It's everything else that is the issue -
It's embarrassing to UW, and presumably to Oregon, to be a part of these small time TV and conference salvaging discussions.whlinder said:
Fuck this piece of shit conference.
A merged, Pac carcass/Mtn West (rename it something else or call it Pac whatever) with coastal and inland divisions could be a fun little conference. I like that as long as UW runs away fast and far. -
Not to pick ok to pick on you that's the small time attitude that killed west coast football and drove LA awayPostGameOrangeSlices said:Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.
It's everything else that is the issue
I miss REAL Husky football -
Truth be told we* should have been made SDSU a frequent OOC opponent to get more games in SoCal.
Doesn’t mean they should be a conference member.
Worse is who this conference might get to have a nice round number of teams. Cause while I don’t think SDSU belongs, they’re easily the most interesting, desirable and available G5 school in our geography. I shudder to think who might join with them. -
UW vs SDSU on 8pm on a Friday night will be special. San Diego St will not replace USC or UCLA, so LEAVE....LEAVE NOW
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If the replacements don't fit (they don't/won't), UW needs to quit.dannarc said:UW vs SDSU on 8pm on a Friday night will be special. San Diego St will not replace USC or UCLA, so LEAVE....LEAVE NOW
Generally optics are a faggy discussion topic, but I hate the optics of this more than anything. How can programs who aspire to compete with the blue bloods have any credibility at all in a league that loses the LA schools and replaces them with SDSU?
*We're? going to sink pretty low in terms of perception even if this is a short term thing and the B1G finally opens the door in a few years. Taking second rate TV money and second rate additions to the league is conceding defeat. -
If Alabama, Auburn or Oklahoma had the ability to move on to another round of the playoffs with wins over Utah, UCF or Boise St. none of those historic upsets would have been close games. If UW stays too long with the losers on the west coast they will essentially be the plucky Utes, Knights or Broncos in the playoffs. Instead of sneaking up and winning they will feel the full weight of the big boys money, effort and talent when on the national stage. It won't be pretty. See Utah in the last two Rose Bowls as an example. Big 10 #2 OSU gaining 683 yards in the 2022 game against the P12 champ with a handful of starters sitting out and Big 10 #3 PSU physically dominating and grinding the P12 champ in 2023. GTFO ASAP even if its for a reduced share. You just can't sell this turd sandwich to the type of recruits that will help you compete in the playoffs.
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Exactly. Every day this goes on hurts the perception of UW and hampers recruiting. I think it's already a big factor.theknowledge said:If Alabama, Auburn or Oklahoma had the ability to move on to another round of the playoffs with wins over Utah, UCF or Boise St. none of those historic upsets would have been close games. If UW stays too long with the losers on the west coast they will essentially be the plucky Utes, Knights or Broncos in the playoffs. Instead of sneaking up and winning they will feel the full weight of the big boys money, effort and talent when on the national stage. It won't be pretty. See Utah in the last two Rose Bowls as an example. Big 10 #2 OSU gaining 683 yards in the 2022 game against the P12 champ with a handful of starters sitting out and Big 10 #3 PSU physically dominating and grinding the P12 champ in 2023. GTFO ASAP even if its for a reduced share. You just can't sell this turd sandwich to the type of recruits that will help you compete in the playoffs.
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The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on
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This is nothing compared to Wilner reporting that the remaining members all agreed to an equal share of revenue if a deal gets done.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.
It's everything else that is the issue
When asked how Washington and Oregon would be 'enticed' to stay he replied that the Pac 12 playoff participant would get a higher share of *that* revenue.
Dude is the biggest fucking PAC 12 shill and Cal/Stanford fluffer there is. -
I get that, but the revenue discrepancy is so bad you're gonna get abused in the portal and be a farm system for coaches in the big conferences that pay the big salaries. The new tv deals are too much to overcome on a consistent basis.dannarc said:The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on
TLDR... making the playoffs for an honorary ass kicking is not a good plan. -
LA drove itself away by hiring jokersRaceBannon said:
Not to pick ok to pick on you that's the small time attitude that killed west coast football and drove LA awayPostGameOrangeSlices said:Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.
It's everything else that is the issue
I miss REAL Husky football -
Damn true. We already lose our real 5 stars to an Ohio stAtomicDawg said:
I get that, but the revenue discrepancy is so bad you're gonna get abused in the portal and be a farm system for coaches in the big conferences that pay the big salaries. The new tv deals are too much to overcome on a consistent basis.dannarc said:The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on
TLDR... making the playoffs for an honorary ass kicking is not a good plan. -
Especially when it's going to be a road game against a team that's pissed and wants to make statement.AtomicDawg said:
I get that, but the revenue discrepancy is so bad you're gonna get abused in the portal and be a farm system for coaches in the big conferences that pay the big salaries. The new tv deals are too much to overcome on a consistent basis.dannarc said:The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on
TLDR... making the playoffs for an honorary ass kicking is not a good plan.
Pac can stay together, merge with the MWC/Ivy League/etc for all I care, just a long as we are in the Big10 or at this point even Big12 as a pit stop until 2030 and next reallignment window.
Everyone knows how it end for the Pac and it's not as a P5 conference. -
College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
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This is what pisses me off though. It's not a power 5 conference only because 2 schools that combined for 1-5 record in conference championships and 0 playoff appearances aren't in it.godawgst said:
Everyone knows how it end for the Pac and it's not as a P5 conference.AtomicDawg said:
I get that, but the revenue discrepancy is so bad you're gonna get abused in the portal and be a farm system for coaches in the big conferences that pay the big salaries. The new tv deals are too much to overcome on a consistent basis.dannarc said:The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on
TLDR... making the playoffs for an honorary ass kicking is not a good plan.
At least with the Big12 they are completely different now that their #1 performing team is leaving in Oklahoma. And Texas is on a different level in terms of fan support than the LA schools.
Pac 12 era has been led by a group of Stanford, UW, Oregon, Utah, and to an extent WSU when Leach was there. Fuck the LA schools forever. -
The SEC will never relinquish its accumulated powerLebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this -
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this -
What I think the way to evaluate the tier one teams it to do a 5 running year total of all the teams - tier 1 would be the top 40 teams, tier 2 41-80, tier 3 the rest. 8 teams from tier 1 and 4 from tier 2 make the playoffs, 8 teams from tier 1 are dropped back to tier 2, same for tier 2 teams. The transfer window would be crazy methinks.DerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this -
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this -
Yes.DerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this -
Every team on this list has played in a NY6 game in the last ten years. ASU hasn't since 1997. West Virginia might be the only team you could argue against. Cincinnati or Louisville has been better than them in the last 10-15 years.ntxduck said:
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
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Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.ntxduck said:
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
Ole Miss has done it 5 times.
ASU has done it 7 times -
Yeah but the ACC is hard.DerekJohnson said:
Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.ntxduck said:
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
Ole Miss has done it 5 times.
ASU has done it 7 times -
What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?DerekJohnson said:
Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.ntxduck said:
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
Ole Miss has done it 5 times.
ASU has done it 7 times -
SDSU makes Utah look like a blue blood. It's getting pathetic around here.RaceBannon said:
Not to pick ok to pick on you that's the small time attitude that killed west coast football and drove LA awayPostGameOrangeSlices said:Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.
It's everything else that is the issue
I miss REAL Husky football -
You said, and I quote: "they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years"ntxduck said:
What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?DerekJohnson said:
Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.ntxduck said:
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
Ole Miss has done it 5 times.
ASU has done it 7 times -
# of x win seasons (especially a random number like 8) isn’t an accomplishment, especially considering unbalanced schedules. You think it’s harder to win 8 games in the p12 south or sec west?DerekJohnson said:
You said, and I quote: "they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years"ntxduck said:
What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?DerekJohnson said:
Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.ntxduck said:
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
Ole Miss has done it 5 times.
ASU has done it 7 times
I’d look at NY6 bowl appearances and top 25 final rankings. -
Where have you been, duck? 0regon INVENTED selective stat picking since way before the beginning of 0U football in 1994. Why is defining success as winning 8 games random? 7/12 is marginal and 8/13 is at least above .600. Seems like a solid benchmark to someone who doesn't @pumpmygasduck for a living.ntxduck said:
# of x win seasons (especially a random number like 8) isn’t an accomplishment, especially considering unbalanced schedules. You think it’s harder to win 8 games in the p12 south or sec west?DerekJohnson said:
You said, and I quote: "they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years"ntxduck said:
What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?DerekJohnson said:
Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.ntxduck said:
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
Ole Miss has done it 5 times.
ASU has done it 7 times
I’d look at NY6 bowl appearances and top 25 final rankings. -
PressingEwaDawg said:
Where have you been, duck? 0regon INVENTED selective stat picking since way before the beginning of 0U football in 1994. Why is defining success as winning 8 games random? 7/12 is marginal and 8/13 is at least above .600. Seems like a solid benchmark to someone who doesn't @pumpmygasduck for a living.ntxduck said:
# of x win seasons (especially a random number like 8) isn’t an accomplishment, especially considering unbalanced schedules. You think it’s harder to win 8 games in the p12 south or sec west?DerekJohnson said:
You said, and I quote: "they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years"ntxduck said:
What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?DerekJohnson said:
Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.ntxduck said:
Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 yearsDerekJohnson said:
Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?LebamDawg said:College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.
Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12
3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
This is the proposal for tier I
I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
Ole Miss has done it 5 times.
ASU has done it 7 times
I’d look at NY6 bowl appearances and top 25 final rankings.