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Fuck this piece of shit conference.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,345
    edited June 2023
    Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.

    It's everything else that is the issue
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,527 Founders Club
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.

    It's everything else that is the issue

    Not to pick ok to pick on you that's the small time attitude that killed west coast football and drove LA away

    I miss REAL Husky football
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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,291
    Truth be told we* should have been made SDSU a frequent OOC opponent to get more games in SoCal.

    Doesn’t mean they should be a conference member.

    Worse is who this conference might get to have a nice round number of teams. Cause while I don’t think SDSU belongs, they’re easily the most interesting, desirable and available G5 school in our geography. I shudder to think who might join with them.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,709 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited June 2023
    theknowledge said:

    If Alabama, Auburn or Oklahoma had the ability to move on to another round of the playoffs with wins over Utah, UCF or Boise St. none of those historic upsets would have been close games. If UW stays too long with the losers on the west coast they will essentially be the plucky Utes, Knights or Broncos in the playoffs. Instead of sneaking up and winning they will feel the full weight of the big boys money, effort and talent when on the national stage. It won't be pretty. See Utah in the last two Rose Bowls as an example. Big 10 #2 OSU gaining 683 yards in the 2022 game against the P12 champ with a handful of starters sitting out and Big 10 #3 PSU physically dominating and grinding the P12 champ in 2023. GTFO ASAP even if its for a reduced share. You just can't sell this turd sandwich to the type of recruits that will help you compete in the playoffs.

    Exactly. Every day this goes on hurts the perception of UW and hampers recruiting. I think it's already a big factor.
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  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,716
    The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,009 Founders Club
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.

    It's everything else that is the issue

    This is nothing compared to Wilner reporting that the remaining members all agreed to an equal share of revenue if a deal gets done.

    When asked how Washington and Oregon would be 'enticed' to stay he replied that the Pac 12 playoff participant would get a higher share of *that* revenue.

    Dude is the biggest fucking PAC 12 shill and Cal/Stanford fluffer there is.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,345
    RaceBannon said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Meh. I don't hate adding SDSU.

    It's everything else that is the issue

    Not to pick ok to pick on you that's the small time attitude that killed west coast football and drove LA away

    I miss REAL Husky football
    LA drove itself away by hiring jokers
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,475
    AtomicDawg said:

    dannarc said:

    The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on

    I get that, but the revenue discrepancy is so bad you're gonna get abused in the portal and be a farm system for coaches in the big conferences that pay the big salaries. The new tv deals are too much to overcome on a consistent basis.

    TLDR... making the playoffs for an honorary ass kicking is not a good plan.
    Damn true. We already lose our real 5 stars to an Ohio st
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  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,565 Swaye's Wigwam
    AtomicDawg said:

    dannarc said:

    The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on

    I get that, but the revenue discrepancy is so bad you're gonna get abused in the portal and be a farm system for coaches in the big conferences that pay the big salaries. The new tv deals are too much to overcome on a consistent basis.

    TLDR... making the playoffs for an honorary ass kicking is not a good plan.
    Especially when it's going to be a road game against a team that's pissed and wants to make statement.

    Pac can stay together, merge with the MWC/Ivy League/etc for all I care, just a long as we are in the Big10 or at this point even Big12 as a pit stop until 2030 and next reallignment window.

    Everyone knows how it end for the Pac and it's not as a P5 conference.
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  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,808 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited June 2023
    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,009 Founders Club
    godawgst said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    dannarc said:

    The only doogish take I can think of is STAY and beat the shit out of the weak conference and have a good chance with a playoff expansion spot via Clemson and the ACC. Hard to believe west coast football will stay down forever, but it's looking more and more like reality as tim goes on

    I get that, but the revenue discrepancy is so bad you're gonna get abused in the portal and be a farm system for coaches in the big conferences that pay the big salaries. The new tv deals are too much to overcome on a consistent basis.

    TLDR... making the playoffs for an honorary ass kicking is not a good plan.
    Everyone knows how it end for the Pac and it's not as a P5 conference.
    This is what pisses me off though. It's not a power 5 conference only because 2 schools that combined for 1-5 record in conference championships and 0 playoff appearances aren't in it.

    At least with the Big12 they are completely different now that their #1 performing team is leaving in Oklahoma. And Texas is on a different level in terms of fan support than the LA schools.

    Pac 12 era has been led by a group of Stanford, UW, Oregon, Utah, and to an extent WSU when Leach was there. Fuck the LA schools forever.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,740 Founders Club
    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    The SEC will never relinquish its accumulated power
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,740 Founders Club
    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
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  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,808 Swaye's Wigwam
    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    What I think the way to evaluate the tier one teams it to do a 5 running year total of all the teams - tier 1 would be the top 40 teams, tier 2 41-80, tier 3 the rest. 8 teams from tier 1 and 4 from tier 2 make the playoffs, 8 teams from tier 1 are dropped back to tier 2, same for tier 2 teams. The transfer window would be crazy methinks.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,184
    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Yes.
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  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,669 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
    Every team on this list has played in a NY6 game in the last ten years. ASU hasn't since 1997. West Virginia might be the only team you could argue against. Cincinnati or Louisville has been better than them in the last 10-15 years.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,740 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
    Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.

    Ole Miss has done it 5 times.

    ASU has done it 7 times
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
    Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.

    Ole Miss has done it 5 times.

    ASU has done it 7 times
    Yeah but the ACC is hard.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,184
    edited June 2023
    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
    Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.

    Ole Miss has done it 5 times.

    ASU has done it 7 times
    What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,740 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
    Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.

    Ole Miss has done it 5 times.

    ASU has done it 7 times
    What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?
    You said, and I quote: "they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years"
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,184
    edited June 2023
    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
    Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.

    Ole Miss has done it 5 times.

    ASU has done it 7 times
    What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?
    You said, and I quote: "they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years"
    # of x win seasons (especially a random number like 8) isn’t an accomplishment, especially considering unbalanced schedules. You think it’s harder to win 8 games in the p12 south or sec west?

    I’d look at NY6 bowl appearances and top 25 final rankings.
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  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,357
    edited June 2023
    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
    Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.

    Ole Miss has done it 5 times.

    ASU has done it 7 times
    What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?
    You said, and I quote: "they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years"
    # of x win seasons (especially a random number like 8) isn’t an accomplishment, especially considering unbalanced schedules. You think it’s harder to win 8 games in the p12 south or sec west?

    I’d look at NY6 bowl appearances and top 25 final rankings.
    Where have you been, duck? 0regon INVENTED selective stat picking since way before the beginning of 0U football in 1994. Why is defining success as winning 8 games random? 7/12 is marginal and 8/13 is at least above .600. Seems like a solid benchmark to someone who doesn't @pumpmygasduck for a living.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,184
    edited June 2023
    EwaDawg said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    ntxduck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    LebamDawg said:

    College football needs to totally redo the conferences to get back to their stupid playoff plan. The NCAA does a good job for March Madness why can't they figure this shit out for football.

    Here is a good proposal that will go nowhere https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2023/6/15/23762076/a-modest-realignment-proposal-washington-huskies-football-pac-12

    3 tiers of football aligned by regions - to make the playoff work this seemed like a good one.
    This is the proposal for tier I


    I like it but I am a dumbs Shit - yes I had to edit this

    Also, the likes of Ole Miss and North Carolina get in but not Arizona State?
    Those aren’t elite programs but they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years
    Since 2000, North Carolina has had 8 wins or more in a season 5 times.

    Ole Miss has done it 5 times.

    ASU has done it 7 times
    What an arbitrary stat, esp because ole miss is easily the best program of the three. What are the 10 best seasons between the three? And does ASU even have one? Maybe the Rudy carpenter team that lost to Texas in the holiday would make 9 or 10?
    You said, and I quote: "they’re so far clear of ASU in terms of accomplishments in the last 25 years"
    # of x win seasons (especially a random number like 8) isn’t an accomplishment, especially considering unbalanced schedules. You think it’s harder to win 8 games in the p12 south or sec west?

    I’d look at NY6 bowl appearances and top 25 final rankings.
    Where have you been, duck? 0regon INVENTED selective stat picking since way before the beginning of 0U football in 1994. Why is defining success as winning 8 games random? 7/12 is marginal and 8/13 is at least above .600. Seems like a solid benchmark to someone who doesn't @pumpmygasduck for a living.
    Pressing
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