Perfect electric car analysis
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If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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If I can not hop in my vehicle and travel anywhere I want with out more than a stop to pee and fill the tank (minutes) I'll never buy one. For around town errands where it can leisurely charge maybe but doubtful for the reason above. How will I tow my 5th wheel? Not doing that on electric. Semi trucks aren't going to be practical either. As I have mentioned before for Spokane to charge just a a couple free electric busses they need an entire new electrical service and substation at a cost of many millions!RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
If everyone has one how will you charge it? Not adequate electricity now and as these cars are added it will be entirely inadequate. We'd need a massive power generating build nationwide that we can't build because of green gaga BS and you need to rebuild the ENTIRE electrical grid to deliver it. From the plant to your house. Every house would most likely need a new and larger electrical service and electrical. Same for every business if their employees need to charge.Also they can just turn off the power and no one can move. That's the real reason they want it.
It's really all about control. They want to control your travel. As we've seen the temperature of the planet hasn't risen one bit. -
The new batteries can get 200 miles in 15 minutes which is2 pretty good and will only get better. I'm not sure about towing but would hope the trucks will also improve over time. In terms of the infrastructure, I agree a lot will have to change. The dumb eco freaks won't allow newer and cleaner nuclear technology. If you ever get a chance to test drive one, do it. The quickness and speed will blow you mind. All those numbers I shared for mine are great considering how hard I drive.
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How much more electricity is used at home before/after roughly?RoadTrip said:The new batteries can get 200 miles in 15 minutes which is2 pretty good and will only get better. I'm not sure about towing but would hope the trucks will also improve over time. In terms of the infrastructure, I agree a lot will have to change. The dumb eco freaks won't allow newer and cleaner nuclear technology. If you ever get a chance to test drive one, do it. The quickness and speed will blow you mind. All those numbers I shared for mine are great considering how hard I drive.
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I almost never charge at home because I have free charging for the life of the vehicle. But when I cahrged fully at home (90kW) I figured it cost me about $8 per full charge. But my 250Volt wall charger was pretty slow and I'd do that overnight. I think that charger did about 40 miles an hour?
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Two anecdotes.
Friends were going to take their EV on a long vacation to some not even remote places. After mapping out charging stations, they opted to drive their gas powered truck. They didn’t want to risk getting stranded. A real possibility.
Family member with a Tesla. Got slightly rear-ended. Shop wanted $250 just to estimate damage. They can’t get it repaired until August due to where they HAVE to take it. Accident happened in March.
We were considering that Caddy EV. Damn that thing is nice. Now, going with a hybrid instead. I’m not into mapping my trips. I don’t do it now so why would I want to start. There will always be gas wherever we’re headed. -
The only gas station I want to spend 15 minutes in is Buc-ee’s.
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Triple A sent me an EV questionnaire. Last question was what would it take for you to buy an EV
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I've driven a Tesla. Quick but so was the battery drain! The electric trucks lose well over half their range if they tow. That's smaller stuff I pull a 10,000lb 5th wheel. Electric is a no go. They aren't rated for that much. Tech needs to advance for more than around town use. You can travel but I always laughed when I went by Harris Ranch on the I5 in Coalinga and saw all the cars charging and more waiting to charge. I'd go in eat a nice meal and they'd all still be there then fire up the diesel and haul ass. Also those things are chock full of unrecyclable toxic waste that's mined by kids in Africa that regularly die in land slides. Very environmentally and children friendly. The vast majority of batteries are made in China. Odd Biden just canceled protections for our solar system Every decision he makes seems to benefit China. I want to move everything back home and watch China die.RoadTrip said:The new batteries can get 200 miles in 15 minutes which is2 pretty good and will only get better. I'm not sure about towing but would hope the trucks will also improve over time. In terms of the infrastructure, I agree a lot will have to change. The dumb eco freaks won't allow newer and cleaner nuclear technology. If you ever get a chance to test drive one, do it. The quickness and speed will blow you mind. All those numbers I shared for mine are great considering how hard I drive.
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Once bought a Biden stays bought. And a Biden never lies. Just take their word for that.Sledog said:
I've driven a Tesla. Quick but so was the battery drain! The electric trucks lose well over half their range if they tow. That's smaller stuff I pull a 10,000lb 5th wheel. Electric is a no go. They aren't rated for that much. Tech needs to advance for more than around town use. You can travel but I always laughed when I went by Harris Ranch on the I5 in Coalinga and saw all the cars charging and more waiting to charge. I'd go in eat a nice meal and they'd all still be there then fire up the diesel and haul ass. Also those things are chock full of unrecyclable toxic waste that's mined by kids in Africa that regularly die in land slides. Very environmentally and children friendly. The vast majority of batteries are made in China. Odd Biden just canceled protections for our solar system Every decision he makes seems to benefit China. I want to move everything back home and watch China die.RoadTrip said:The new batteries can get 200 miles in 15 minutes which is2 pretty good and will only get better. I'm not sure about towing but would hope the trucks will also improve over time. In terms of the infrastructure, I agree a lot will have to change. The dumb eco freaks won't allow newer and cleaner nuclear technology. If you ever get a chance to test drive one, do it. The quickness and speed will blow you mind. All those numbers I shared for mine are great considering how hard I drive.
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@AOG is looking into it.46XiJCAB said:
Once bought a Biden stays bought. And a Biden never lies. Just take their word for that.Sledog said:
I've driven a Tesla. Quick but so was the battery drain! The electric trucks lose well over half their range if they tow. That's smaller stuff I pull a 10,000lb 5th wheel. Electric is a no go. They aren't rated for that much. Tech needs to advance for more than around town use. You can travel but I always laughed when I went by Harris Ranch on the I5 in Coalinga and saw all the cars charging and more waiting to charge. I'd go in eat a nice meal and they'd all still be there then fire up the diesel and haul ass. Also those things are chock full of unrecyclable toxic waste that's mined by kids in Africa that regularly die in land slides. Very environmentally and children friendly. The vast majority of batteries are made in China. Odd Biden just canceled protections for our solar system Every decision he makes seems to benefit China. I want to move everything back home and watch China die.RoadTrip said:The new batteries can get 200 miles in 15 minutes which is2 pretty good and will only get better. I'm not sure about towing but would hope the trucks will also improve over time. In terms of the infrastructure, I agree a lot will have to change. The dumb eco freaks won't allow newer and cleaner nuclear technology. If you ever get a chance to test drive one, do it. The quickness and speed will blow you mind. All those numbers I shared for mine are great considering how hard I drive.
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The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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I've owned 2 BMWs, an Audi, 2 Infinities, an Acura, an Honda, VW, 3 Ford trucks and SUVs and 3 Jeeps. As you say, all had positives and negatives but I've enjoyed the Tesla the most. They are begging me to turn it in for a new one with 6 years free charging.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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Sound, smell, a lumpy idle, shifting gears, feeling like you're driving the car versus the other way around. I could go on.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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I still love driving my Jeeps around with no top or doors but I love going from 0-120 in the blink of an eye too. You have to drive it but the moves are so smooth. Taking corners is amazing because of how low to the ground you are and how the heavy battery keeps you grounded.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Sound, smell, a lumpy idle, shifting gears, feeling like you're driving the car versus the other way around. I could go on.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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I will take the sound, feel and every other sense stimulation of a 60 Series Detroit everyday over any other pretender.
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Test drive one... you may change your mind.Blu82 said:I will take the sound, feel and every other sense stimulation of a 60 Series Detroit everyday over any other pretender.
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When the EMP hits, I'll swing by and pick you guys up.
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There is no free maintenance. There are no free tires. There is no free charging. It's all baked into the purchase price. I have no problem with people buying an EV. My problem is the massive government and state subsidies to do so combined with the mandates to end the production of internal combustion engine cars because even the subsidies aren't enough for the average car purchaser. Then toss in the subsidized charging stations and the cost of the electric grid upgrades that all electrical consumers pay for and thus further subsidize EV owners.RoadTrip said:
I've owned 2 BMWs, an Audi, 2 Infinities, an Acura, an Honda, VW, 3 Ford trucks and SUVs and 3 Jeeps. As you say, all had positives and negatives but I've enjoyed the Tesla the most. They are begging me to turn it in for a new one with 6 years free charging.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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When SloJoe and Demonrat communist party turn off the power we can still roll coal in my Ram Mega cab too.
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This is kind of where I'm at also. We are throwing billions/trillions into EV infrastructure from government. What happens when the new Tesla is going through R&D and comes up with something miles better that doesn't require charging stations and is cheap and works. Are we just going to scrap all this infrastructure, or is the government going to block out new innovation with regulation to prop up their investment? Or is the new Tesla just not even going to try because they know their regulatory burden is going to be too high because of sunk costs from the government. That's the big fear in my opinion.WestlinnDuck said:
There is no free maintenance. There are no free tires. There is no free charging. It's all baked into the purchase price. I have no problem with people buying an EV. My problem is the massive government and state subsidies to do so combined with the mandates to end the production of internal combustion engine cars because even the subsidies aren't enough for the average car purchaser. Then toss in the subsidized charging stations and the cost of the electric grid upgrades that all electrical consumers pay for and thus further subsidize EV owners.RoadTrip said:
I've owned 2 BMWs, an Audi, 2 Infinities, an Acura, an Honda, VW, 3 Ford trucks and SUVs and 3 Jeeps. As you say, all had positives and negatives but I've enjoyed the Tesla the most. They are begging me to turn it in for a new one with 6 years free charging.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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Think of the additional electricity to charge 290 million electric cars. 290 million 70 AMP circuits need to be added to homes for just an OK charge time. How is that going to be produced, transmitted etc? Most rooms don't have room for a 70 amp breaker in their electrical panels. Can't keep the lights on now in some states. Those states will demand power from states that have it etc. Good luck!
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Just do what California does - Virtue Signal. Import dirty electricity because a virtuous state doesn't produce dirty electricity but buying it from another state is super virtuous. Same with hazardous waste disposal. Just ship it out of state because that's was a virtuous state does. That's what we will do with used EV lithium ion batteries. Will ship them to China who will promise to meticulously reclaim all the valuable components and then responsibly dispose of the rest. The reality will be that they just ship it out to sea and dump it. And everyone will feel good.Sledog said:Think of the additional electricity to charge 290 million electric cars. 290 million 70 AMP circuits need to be added to homes for just an OK charge time. How is that going to be produced, transmitted etc? Most rooms don't have room for a 70 amp breaker in their electrical panels. Can't keep the lights on now in some states. Those states will demand power from states that have it etc. Good luck!
https://www.powerlineblog.com/
POTEMKIN ENVIRONMENTALISM: California Dumps Nearly Half of Its Hazardous Waste out of State.
California is revealing new information to the public that shows that the eco-friendly state is dumping tons of toxic waste in other states every year.
Since 2010, California has dumped nearly half of its hazardous waste out of state—mostly in Utah, Arizona, and Nevada—according to the state’s latest figures (pdf). Thirteen more states also have received California’s toxic waste but in much lower quantities.
In the past 13 years, the state has dumped 3.7 million tons of hazardous waste in Utah, more than 2.9 million tons in Arizona, and nearly 2.3 million tons in Nevada.
An investigation published by CalMatters in January found that one of the biggest out-of-state toxic waste dumpers was the state’s own Department of Toxic Substances Control.
The reason is that neighboring states don’t have as many environmental regulations for dumping hazardous waste, and it costs less.
There’s a pleasing circularity to California leftists using other states as their dumping grounds, since they also use the much more functional other states to help keep the lights on: California’s Potemkin Environmentalism.
A dirty secret about California’s energy economy is that it imports lots of energy from neighboring states to make up for the shortfall caused by having too few power plants. Up to 20 percent of the state’s power comes from coal-burning plants in Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, and Montana, and another significant portion comes from large-scale hydropower in Oregon, Washington State, and the Hoover Dam near Las Vegas. “California practices a sort of energy colonialism,” says James Lucier of Capital Alpha Partners, a Washington, D.C.–area investment group. “They rely on western states to supply them with power generation they are unwilling to build for themselves”—and leave those states to deal with the resulting pollution.
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Agree 100% there it should stand on it's own.WestlinnDuck said:
There is no free maintenance. There are no free tires. There is no free charging. It's all baked into the purchase price. I have no problem with people buying an EV. My problem is the massive government and state subsidies to do so combined with the mandates to end the production of internal combustion engine cars because even the subsidies aren't enough for the average car purchaser. Then toss in the subsidized charging stations and the cost of the electric grid upgrades that all electrical consumers pay for and thus further subsidize EV owners.RoadTrip said:
I've owned 2 BMWs, an Audi, 2 Infinities, an Acura, an Honda, VW, 3 Ford trucks and SUVs and 3 Jeeps. As you say, all had positives and negatives but I've enjoyed the Tesla the most. They are begging me to turn it in for a new one with 6 years free charging.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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Plenty of electricity if we use nukes... oh waitSledog said:Think of the additional electricity to charge 290 million electric cars. 290 million 70 AMP circuits need to be added to homes for just an OK charge time. How is that going to be produced, transmitted etc? Most rooms don't have room for a 70 amp breaker in their electrical panels. Can't keep the lights on now in some states. Those states will demand power from states that have it etc. Good luck!
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Yeah, have ridden around in a few recently. Just does nothing for me. I think Tesla will be a pretty niche player long-term in the EV market. The big manufacturers have largely caught up to them and make far superior products as far as fit and finish go. I would consider an EV as a family hauler if the range/charging stuff can get figured out, but will never own one as my personal fun car. They have the personality of a washing machine.RoadTrip said:
I still love driving my Jeeps around with no top or doors but I love going from 0-120 in the blink of an eye too. You have to drive it but the moves are so smooth. Taking corners is amazing because of how low to the ground you are and how the heavy battery keeps you grounded.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Sound, smell, a lumpy idle, shifting gears, feeling like you're driving the car versus the other way around. I could go on.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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I'm paying for it and have no problem taking advantage of our shit government. If all the freeshitters are getting multi-million $ pensions for doing shit in 25 years, I'm gonna git me sum 2. Yes, it's hypocritical.WestlinnDuck said:
There is no free maintenance. There are no free tires. There is no free charging. It's all baked into the purchase price. I have no problem with people buying an EV. My problem is the massive government and state subsidies to do so combined with the mandates to end the production of internal combustion engine cars because even the subsidies aren't enough for the average car purchaser. Then toss in the subsidized charging stations and the cost of the electric grid upgrades that all electrical consumers pay for and thus further subsidize EV owners.RoadTrip said:
I've owned 2 BMWs, an Audi, 2 Infinities, an Acura, an Honda, VW, 3 Ford trucks and SUVs and 3 Jeeps. As you say, all had positives and negatives but I've enjoyed the Tesla the most. They are begging me to turn it in for a new one with 6 years free charging.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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wind powered - EV's are so last year
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I have no problem with you taking what the government gives you. I got a federal rebate and a state tax credit for the gas fireplace I put in a few years ago.RoadTrip said:
I'm paying for it and have no problem taking advantage of our shit government. If all the freeshitters are getting multi-million $ pensions for doing shit in 25 years, I'm gonna git me sum 2. Yes, it's hypocritical.WestlinnDuck said:
There is no free maintenance. There are no free tires. There is no free charging. It's all baked into the purchase price. I have no problem with people buying an EV. My problem is the massive government and state subsidies to do so combined with the mandates to end the production of internal combustion engine cars because even the subsidies aren't enough for the average car purchaser. Then toss in the subsidized charging stations and the cost of the electric grid upgrades that all electrical consumers pay for and thus further subsidize EV owners.RoadTrip said:
I've owned 2 BMWs, an Audi, 2 Infinities, an Acura, an Honda, VW, 3 Ford trucks and SUVs and 3 Jeeps. As you say, all had positives and negatives but I've enjoyed the Tesla the most. They are begging me to turn it in for a new one with 6 years free charging.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
