Perfect electric car analysis
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@AOG is looking into it.46XiJCAB said:
Once bought a Biden stays bought. And a Biden never lies. Just take their word for that.Sledog said:
I've driven a Tesla. Quick but so was the battery drain! The electric trucks lose well over half their range if they tow. That's smaller stuff I pull a 10,000lb 5th wheel. Electric is a no go. They aren't rated for that much. Tech needs to advance for more than around town use. You can travel but I always laughed when I went by Harris Ranch on the I5 in Coalinga and saw all the cars charging and more waiting to charge. I'd go in eat a nice meal and they'd all still be there then fire up the diesel and haul ass. Also those things are chock full of unrecyclable toxic waste that's mined by kids in Africa that regularly die in land slides. Very environmentally and children friendly. The vast majority of batteries are made in China. Odd Biden just canceled protections for our solar system Every decision he makes seems to benefit China. I want to move everything back home and watch China die.RoadTrip said:The new batteries can get 200 miles in 15 minutes which is2 pretty good and will only get better. I'm not sure about towing but would hope the trucks will also improve over time. In terms of the infrastructure, I agree a lot will have to change. The dumb eco freaks won't allow newer and cleaner nuclear technology. If you ever get a chance to test drive one, do it. The quickness and speed will blow you mind. All those numbers I shared for mine are great considering how hard I drive.
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The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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I've owned 2 BMWs, an Audi, 2 Infinities, an Acura, an Honda, VW, 3 Ford trucks and SUVs and 3 Jeeps. As you say, all had positives and negatives but I've enjoyed the Tesla the most. They are begging me to turn it in for a new one with 6 years free charging.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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Sound, smell, a lumpy idle, shifting gears, feeling like you're driving the car versus the other way around. I could go on.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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I still love driving my Jeeps around with no top or doors but I love going from 0-120 in the blink of an eye too. You have to drive it but the moves are so smooth. Taking corners is amazing because of how low to the ground you are and how the heavy battery keeps you grounded.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Sound, smell, a lumpy idle, shifting gears, feeling like you're driving the car versus the other way around. I could go on.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
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I will take the sound, feel and every other sense stimulation of a 60 Series Detroit everyday over any other pretender.
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Test drive one... you may change your mind.Blu82 said:I will take the sound, feel and every other sense stimulation of a 60 Series Detroit everyday over any other pretender.
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When the EMP hits, I'll swing by and pick you guys up.
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There is no free maintenance. There are no free tires. There is no free charging. It's all baked into the purchase price. I have no problem with people buying an EV. My problem is the massive government and state subsidies to do so combined with the mandates to end the production of internal combustion engine cars because even the subsidies aren't enough for the average car purchaser. Then toss in the subsidized charging stations and the cost of the electric grid upgrades that all electrical consumers pay for and thus further subsidize EV owners.RoadTrip said:
I've owned 2 BMWs, an Audi, 2 Infinities, an Acura, an Honda, VW, 3 Ford trucks and SUVs and 3 Jeeps. As you say, all had positives and negatives but I've enjoyed the Tesla the most. They are begging me to turn it in for a new one with 6 years free charging.RoadTrip said:
Sound?BleachedAnusDawg said:
The performance numbers are largely meaningless because any EV can be made to be blindingly quick with the technology available. Freaking Kia makes an EV that goes to 60 in 3 seconds flat. There are other senses to which an EV offers nothing, so there is give and take. Nothing is perfect.RoadTrip said:If driving 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds, or at a top speed of 200 mph is slow, then you and I have a different definition of perfect. The range for this vehicle is now 400 miles. That battery will degrade about 15% over about 7-10 years. I can still get 235 miles on my battery which provided 290 brand new, 8 years and 250,000 miles later. It's never been in the shop for anything other than a window regulator and I've had 2 door handle mechanisms swapped out. I'm still on the original brakes. I get the political hesitancy but oh man it's fun to drive.
