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Mike Martin only has it half right

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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,122 Standard Supporter
    Mike Martin is full of hot air much like Kim, fatters, LARS, Roof and the rest.
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,945
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Mike Martin is full of hot air much like Kim, fatters, LARS, Roof and the rest.

    why does Derek Johnson get fit in “the rest?”
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,122 Standard Supporter
    LawDawg1 said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Mike Martin is full of hot air much like Kim, fatters, LARS, Roof and the rest.

    why does Derek Johnson get fit in “the rest?”
    I never said anything about Derek.
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,945
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Mike Martin is full of hot air much like Kim, fatters, LARS, Roof and the rest.

    why does Derek Johnson get fit in “the rest?”
    I never said anything about Derek.
    Exactly
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    DerekJohnson said:

    Tequilla said:

    It's apples and oranges

    The state of the P12 is completely on the University President's that not only hired Backhand Larry AND enabled him for so many years when it was so painfully obvious that he was in over his head

    The comparison to Emmert and Tyrone is different in this respect ... Emmert sacrificed 2008 to placate the segment of the population and stakeholders that enabled Tyrone ... everybody knew that Tyrone was on an island in 2008 and it would have never have worked. It's a big difference to sacrifice 1 year for multiple years like the P12 did with Larry Scott.

    We sacrificed so much more than one year.
    Did we?

    We were in the CFP 8 years later ...

    Many programs would sacrifice a few high level donors to be in the CFP

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Tequilla said:

    It's apples and oranges

    The state of the P12 is completely on the University President's that not only hired Backhand Larry AND enabled him for so many years when it was so painfully obvious that he was in over his head

    The comparison to Emmert and Tyrone is different in this respect ... Emmert sacrificed 2008 to placate the segment of the population and stakeholders that enabled Tyrone ... everybody knew that Tyrone was on an island in 2008 and it would have never have worked. It's a big difference to sacrifice 1 year for multiple years like the P12 did with Larry Scott.

    We sacrificed so much more than one year.
    This. We could have had a top tier coach if we we hired correctly after Rick or even one year of gilby. Instead we killed the program and had to take a chance on sark.
    You're talking 2003/2004 to 2007 at that point ... 2008 didn't put the program in substantially more of a hole than it already was
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Tequilla said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Tequilla said:

    It's apples and oranges

    The state of the P12 is completely on the University President's that not only hired Backhand Larry AND enabled him for so many years when it was so painfully obvious that he was in over his head

    The comparison to Emmert and Tyrone is different in this respect ... Emmert sacrificed 2008 to placate the segment of the population and stakeholders that enabled Tyrone ... everybody knew that Tyrone was on an island in 2008 and it would have never have worked. It's a big difference to sacrifice 1 year for multiple years like the P12 did with Larry Scott.

    We sacrificed so much more than one year.
    This. We could have had a top tier coach if we we hired correctly after Rick or even one year of gilby. Instead we killed the program and had to take a chance on sark.
    You're talking 2003/2004 to 2007 at that point ... 2008 didn't put the program in substantially more of a hole than it already was
    It drastically altered the pool we could realistically hire from.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Tequilla said:

    It's apples and oranges

    The state of the P12 is completely on the University President's that not only hired Backhand Larry AND enabled him for so many years when it was so painfully obvious that he was in over his head

    The comparison to Emmert and Tyrone is different in this respect ... Emmert sacrificed 2008 to placate the segment of the population and stakeholders that enabled Tyrone ... everybody knew that Tyrone was on an island in 2008 and it would have never have worked. It's a big difference to sacrifice 1 year for multiple years like the P12 did with Larry Scott.

    We sacrificed so much more than one year.
    This. We could have had a top tier coach if we we hired correctly after Rick or even one year of gilby. Instead we killed the program and had to take a chance on sark.
    You're talking 2003/2004 to 2007 at that point ... 2008 didn't put the program in substantially more of a hole than it already was
    It drastically altered the pool we could realistically hire from.
    Who would UW have gotten after 2007 that they couldn't get in 2008?

    For as much as I have disdain for Sark ... being able to pull in a coordinator from a top program like USC and immediately being able to start the shift back in recruiting positioned UW for the success that they had under Pete.
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