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Mike Martin only has it half right

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  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,010 Swaye's Wigwam
    Canadawg said:

    To play devils advocate for being in a weak conference. Clemson won two natties in the ACC recently

    It helps a lot to skate through a weak conference. TCU just sucked ass. Clemson didn't drop some conference championship to Pitt before winning either of those playoffs.
  • godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,541 Founders Club

    Someone has to play the late games. You’re right though, they don’t need the pac 12 to do it. They just need a handful of west coast teams with decent markets regardless of what conference they’re in. This may be the only thing saving udub/oregon. If they go to the big 10, the big 12 has a lot of motivation to get west coast teams to fill that void, otherwise they can’t compete with fox for the same time slot.
    Pac-12 after dark did more harm than good, as it became what the networks only Wanted the conference for, but don't Need and with that the revenue or lack thereof that comes with it.

    Espn has their lowball number which allows them to make a (+) profit if the Pac accepts, and if they don't, they will fill that window with MWC games. 10-11 pm on the east coast when those game kick isn't a needle mover one way or the other
  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,580 Swaye's Wigwam
    godawgst said:

    Pac-12 after dark did more harm than good, as it became what the networks only Wanted the conference for, but don't Need and with that the revenue or lack thereof that comes with it.

    Espn has their lowball number which allows them to make a (+) profit if the Pac accepts, and if they don't, they will fill that window with MWC games. 10-11 pm on the east coast when those game kick isn't a needle mover one way or the other
    Problem too is it's not a good window. You'll never see a good Big 10 game scheduled for it. If the Pac-12 was the Big 10 though they'd immediately schedule Ohio State for two 7:30pm west coast kick offs then wonder why their marque team got upset.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,264 Standard Supporter

    Problem too is it's not a good window. You'll never see a good Big 10 game scheduled for it. If the Pac-12 was the Big 10 though they'd immediately schedule Ohio State for two 7:30pm west coast kick offs then wonder why their marque team got upset.
    If they force the west coast teams to play early, some big 10 teams Will play in that late window. It’s a give and take. It will probably never be usc or tosu forced to do it though.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 66,767 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    Watching Cal beat tOSU on an after midnight hail Mary in front of 12k fans is the type of realignment Karma I'm here for.

    @whatshouldicareabout!! Add it to the list!
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,140 Founders Club
    Mike Martin is full of hot air much like Kim, fatters, LARS, Roof and the rest.
  • LawDawg1LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,935

    Mike Martin is full of hot air much like Kim, fatters, LARS, Roof and the rest.

    why does Derek Johnson get fit in “the rest?”
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,140 Founders Club
    LawDawg1 said:

    why does Derek Johnson get fit in “the rest?”
    I never said anything about Derek.
  • LawDawg1LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,935

    I never said anything about Derek.
    Exactly
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,024

    We sacrificed so much more than one year.
    Did we?

    We were in the CFP 8 years later ...

    Many programs would sacrifice a few high level donors to be in the CFP

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,024

    This. We could have had a top tier coach if we we hired correctly after Rick or even one year of gilby. Instead we killed the program and had to take a chance on sark.
    You're talking 2003/2004 to 2007 at that point ... 2008 didn't put the program in substantially more of a hole than it already was
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827
    Tequilla said:

    You're talking 2003/2004 to 2007 at that point ... 2008 didn't put the program in substantially more of a hole than it already was
    It drastically altered the pool we could realistically hire from.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,024
    dnc said:

    It drastically altered the pool we could realistically hire from.
    Who would UW have gotten after 2007 that they couldn't get in 2008?

    For as much as I have disdain for Sark ... being able to pull in a coordinator from a top program like USC and immediately being able to start the shift back in recruiting positioned UW for the success that they had under Pete.
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