Hotels for the Homeless good idea?
They tried this in Springfield.
Homeless nailed room doors shut.
Homeless torn down interior walls to create suites.
Homeless removed copper wiring to sell.
Homeless ruined plumbing, nothing worked.
Fire Marshal came in and declared it unlivable.
Hotel was demolished.
Anecdotal, I know.
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Exactly. No one is asking the questions about how they are going to keep the hotel/motels clean and in repair. Being homeless in the US is a result of the complete failure of the homeless to perform even the most basic of functions. You going to inspect each unit on a daily basis and have the ability to evict a "tenant" immediately for any destruction of property? Is drug use a cause for eviction? Is there a curfew for noise?46XiJCAB said:
They tried this in Springfield.
Homeless nailed room doors shut.
Homeless torn down interior walls to create suites.
Homeless removed copper wiring to sell.
Homeless ruined plumbing, nothing worked.
Fire Marshal came in and declared it unlivable.
Hotel was demolished.
Anecdotal, I know. -
People don't take care of shit they don't pay for.
Fuck no. This shit hasn't worked in housing projects, homeless camps, nothing.
Skin in the game or GTFO.
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The word is out. They interviewed a young homeless guy in Eugene who was given a bus ticket out of a town in WY. He was given multiple choices, he chose Eugene.
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Hosmer in Tacoma is a prime example of this. Concentrating large amounts of poor people has been shown to be bad public policy.
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LA was talking about taking hotels by force to house the homeless
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There’s one by the Vancouver Mall. They hangout inside now.
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Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!
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I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.Sledog said:Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!
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I have the same idea for gang members. Round up 3 or 4 rival gangs lock them all in a box canyon and drop some weapons in.46XiJCAB said:
I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.Sledog said:Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!
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As long as we don’t make it a Black v White gang situation. Each must fight their own.Sledog said:
I have the same idea for gang members. Round up 3 or 4 rival gangs lock them all in a box canyon and drop some weapons in.46XiJCAB said:
I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.Sledog said:Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!
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Who cares! It would be Thunder Dome Deluxe! TV rights would pay for everything.46XiJCAB said:
As long as we don’t make it a Black v White gang situation. Each must fight their own.Sledog said:
I have the same idea for gang members. Round up 3 or 4 rival gangs lock them all in a box canyon and drop some weapons in.46XiJCAB said:
I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.Sledog said:Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!
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I once advocated for pay per view for Florida executions. It didn’t catch on. Too soon at the tim but now it could be a possibility.Sledog said:
Who cares! It would be Thunder Dome Deluxe! TV rights would pay for everything.46XiJCAB said:
As long as we don’t make it a Black v White gang situation. Each must fight their own.Sledog said:
I have the same idea for gang members. Round up 3 or 4 rival gangs lock them all in a box canyon and drop some weapons in.46XiJCAB said:
I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.Sledog said:Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!
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In the 80s and 90s the homeless were arrested for crimes they committed, and were put on buses back from whence they came with the understanding that the beat cops who worked those areas did not want to see them back.
It worked, until the money faucet got turned on in the early 2000s. Bums like free shit. Make things free and they will swarm like cicadas. -
The answer to your questions . . . Nope. Nope. Nope.WestlinnDuck said:
Exactly. No one is asking the questions about how they are going to keep the hotel/motels clean and in repair. Being homeless in the US is a result of the complete failure of the homeless to perform even the most basic of functions. You going to inspect each unit on a daily basis and have the ability to evict a "tenant" immediately for any destruction of property? Is drug use a cause for eviction? Is there a curfew for noise?46XiJCAB said:
They tried this in Springfield.
Homeless nailed room doors shut.
Homeless torn down interior walls to create suites.
Homeless removed copper wiring to sell.
Homeless ruined plumbing, nothing worked.
Fire Marshal came in and declared it unlivable.
Hotel was demolished.
Anecdotal, I know. -
Snohomish County just bough the Days Inn that closed on Everett Mall Way. They won't tell the developers that are trying to revitalize the mall into something more akin to the U village whom they plan to house there. If it's women and children living in a car then I'm for it. If it's drug zombies then the city may as well plan on closing up all the retail around there and shuttering what's left of the mall. The developers need to know so that they can secure businesses that may be interested in the new "vision" of what the mall wants to be. I work in that area and It's already a borderline shit hole due to its proximity to Casino Road. This move would finish it off. Sucks for me I guess. Would you like a bag for the groceries you're stealing? I'll comp you the 8 cents.
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Guys they have to go SOMEWHERE
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The union gospel mission specializes in taking in women and children abandoned by some deadbeattheknowledge said:Snohomish County just bough the Days Inn that closed on Everett Mall Way. They won't tell the developers that are trying to revitalize the mall into something more akin to the U village whom they plan to house there. If it's women and children living in a car then I'm for it. If it's drug zombies then the city may as well plan on closing up all the retail around there and shuttering what's left of the mall. The developers need to know so that they can secure businesses that may be interested in the new "vision" of what the mall wants to be. I work in that area and It's already a borderline shit hole due to its proximity to Casino Road. This move would finish it off. Sucks for me I guess. Would you like a bag for the groceries you're stealing? I'll comp you the 8 cents.
Also have rules for males. It actually works for those who want it
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UGM is one of the few in the homeless industrial complex that show results.RaceBannon said:
The union gospel mission specializes in taking in women and children abandoned by some deadbeattheknowledge said:Snohomish County just bough the Days Inn that closed on Everett Mall Way. They won't tell the developers that are trying to revitalize the mall into something more akin to the U village whom they plan to house there. If it's women and children living in a car then I'm for it. If it's drug zombies then the city may as well plan on closing up all the retail around there and shuttering what's left of the mall. The developers need to know so that they can secure businesses that may be interested in the new "vision" of what the mall wants to be. I work in that area and It's already a borderline shit hole due to its proximity to Casino Road. This move would finish it off. Sucks for me I guess. Would you like a bag for the groceries you're stealing? I'll comp you the 8 cents.
Also have rules for males. It actually works for those who want it
Accountability and expectations. Who knew?
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They used to be called hobos and would be on the sparsely populated exteriors of towns. Now they all congregate in the center of towns. Liberals have caused most of these problems as they think they are helping by giving them handouts. If you feed them and give them money they will never change and never leave. One our worst vagrants was passed out on sidewalk and his arm was outstretched and his hand open. Idiots walked by and put money in his hand. When he came around he had plenty to get loaded again.thechatch said:Guys they have to go SOMEWHERE
Feed them and they will come in droves. Santa Monica fed them for many years. The entire area around where the herd feedings occurred was a disaster area. When Santa Monica finally stopped that program they scattered out into the surrounding areas and everyone else's problems increased substantially.
You drive them out by enforcing the laws. But Kali changed some laws like sleeping in cars. Liberal commie courts have a profound effect on society when they proclaim non existent rights for these shitbags.
Most are mentally ill, addicts or both. They commit large numbers of crimes. Mostly theft but also cover the entire range up to and including murder. Massive drain on public services like police and fire.
Mental facilities are nonexistent these days and if you can get them in a psych ward they are out in an few hours. They toss some meds in them and give them a bus token to get back where they came from. Hospitals like Harbor General in L.A. have psych wards but they try and turn everything away. I've taken loons in and if they smell a whiff or booze they'll say they are just drunk and refuse to accept them. I figured out how to stop that. I just started uncuffing them inside the psych ward. The nurses would go nuts and I'd just respond "you said they're not crazy so I'm letting him go here" They'd take them then! -
Old Tavern only had nine lives. Shut by the virus and then homeless occupied. If only they had moved these quality homeless into a new motel.Sledog said:
They used to be called hobos and would be on the sparsely populated exteriors of towns. Now they all congregate in the center of towns. Liberals have caused most of these problems as they think they are helping by giving them handouts. If you feed them and give them money they will never change and never leave. One our worst vagrants was passed out on sidewalk and his arm was outstretched and his hand open. Idiots walked by and put money in his hand. When he came around he had plenty to get loaded again.thechatch said:Guys they have to go SOMEWHERE
Feed them and they will come in droves. Santa Monica fed them for many years. The entire area around where the herd feedings occurred was a disaster area. When Santa Monica finally stopped that program they scattered out into the surrounding areas and everyone else's problems increased substantially.
You drive them out by enforcing the laws. But Kali changed some laws like sleeping in cars. Liberal commie courts have a profound effect on society when they proclaim non existent rights for these shitbags.
Most are mentally ill, addicts or both. They commit large numbers of crimes. Mostly theft but also cover the entire range up to and including murder. Massive drain on public services like police and fire.
Mental facilities are nonexistent these days and if you can get them in a psych ward they are out in an few hours. They toss some meds in them and give them a bus token to get back where they came from. Hospitals like Harbor General in L.A. have psych wards but they try and turn everything away. I've taken loons in and if they smell a whiff or booze they'll say they are just drunk and refuse to accept them. I figured out how to stop that. I just started uncuffing them inside the psych ward. The nurses would go nuts and I'd just respond "you said they're not crazy so I'm letting him go here" They'd take them then!
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Did anyone see that video I posted a couple weeks back? It was the homeless junkie in Seattle who was given a place to live and who'd been in the unit for a just a few weeks and already he'd turned into a complete shit hole? They had people coming into to clean his apartment of the shit and piss and blood and spooze that was all over the place. So not only do we have to give these fucking losers a place to live, we also have to clean up their apartments after them.
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Without proper triaging, the problems will never get solved.thechatch said:Guys they have to go SOMEWHERE
And nobody, anywhere, is talking about triaging, because it sounds like a war on the poor or even worse, SEGREGATION!!!
Why would anyone want to keep women and children separated from methheads and fentanyl addicts?
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They used to let the homeless stay at the Aloha Motel on Aurora at about Lee St. It was a dump. I dealt with them a little at my first job out of college. Unsurprisingly, they lied, cheated, and stole.
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For every person who successfully transitions to housing after the Aloha, there are 10 to 25 relapses and failures.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:They used to let the homeless stay at the Aloha Motel on Aurora at about Lee St. It was a dump. I dealt with them a little at my first job out of college. Unsurprisingly, they lied, cheated, and stole.
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Hell half the people do not take care of the shit they pay forPurpleThrobber said:People don't take care of shit they don't pay for.
Fuck no. This shit hasn't worked in housing projects, homeless camps, nothing.
Skin in the game or GTFO.
