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Hotels for the Homeless good idea?

46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

They tried this in Springfield.

Homeless nailed room doors shut.
Homeless torn down interior walls to create suites.
Homeless removed copper wiring to sell.
Homeless ruined plumbing, nothing worked.
Fire Marshal came in and declared it unlivable.
Hotel was demolished.

Anecdotal, I know.
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,389 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:


    They tried this in Springfield.

    Homeless nailed room doors shut.
    Homeless torn down interior walls to create suites.
    Homeless removed copper wiring to sell.
    Homeless ruined plumbing, nothing worked.
    Fire Marshal came in and declared it unlivable.
    Hotel was demolished.

    Anecdotal, I know.

    Exactly. No one is asking the questions about how they are going to keep the hotel/motels clean and in repair. Being homeless in the US is a result of the complete failure of the homeless to perform even the most basic of functions. You going to inspect each unit on a daily basis and have the ability to evict a "tenant" immediately for any destruction of property? Is drug use a cause for eviction? Is there a curfew for noise?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,262 Standard Supporter
    People don't take care of shit they don't pay for.

    Fuck no. This shit hasn't worked in housing projects, homeless camps, nothing.

    Skin in the game or GTFO.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    The word is out. They interviewed a young homeless guy in Eugene who was given a bus ticket out of a town in WY. He was given multiple choices, he chose Eugene.
  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,453 Swaye's Wigwam
    Hosmer in Tacoma is a prime example of this. Concentrating large amounts of poor people has been shown to be bad public policy.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,047 Founders Club
    LA was talking about taking hotels by force to house the homeless

    Typical GOP authoritarians
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    There’s one by the Vancouver Mall. They hangout inside now.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,961 Standard Supporter
    Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Sledog said:

    Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!

    I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,961 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!

    I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.
    I have the same idea for gang members. Round up 3 or 4 rival gangs lock them all in a box canyon and drop some weapons in.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited April 2023
    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!

    I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.
    I have the same idea for gang members. Round up 3 or 4 rival gangs lock them all in a box canyon and drop some weapons in.
    As long as we don’t make it a Black v White gang situation. Each must fight their own.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,961 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!

    I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.
    I have the same idea for gang members. Round up 3 or 4 rival gangs lock them all in a box canyon and drop some weapons in.
    As long as we don’t make it a Black v White gang situation. Each must fight their own.
    Who cares! It would be Thunder Dome Deluxe! TV rights would pay for everything.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Homeless do not want to work. Ever. They want to get loaded and sit around and have someone pay for their needs. Many are mentally unstable with a large number the are mentally ill enough to be dangerous. They want nothing to do with society. Drive them to the slab city in the desert and kick them out of the fucking bus!

    I’m all for creating Thunderdome in the middle of a welcoming desert. One road in and out.
    I have the same idea for gang members. Round up 3 or 4 rival gangs lock them all in a box canyon and drop some weapons in.
    As long as we don’t make it a Black v White gang situation. Each must fight their own.
    Who cares! It would be Thunder Dome Deluxe! TV rights would pay for everything.
    I once advocated for pay per view for Florida executions. It didn’t catch on. Too soon at the tim but now it could be a possibility.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,295
    In the 80s and 90s the homeless were arrested for crimes they committed, and were put on buses back from whence they came with the understanding that the beat cops who worked those areas did not want to see them back.

    It worked, until the money faucet got turned on in the early 2000s. Bums like free shit. Make things free and they will swarm like cicadas.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042

    46XiJCAB said:


    They tried this in Springfield.

    Homeless nailed room doors shut.
    Homeless torn down interior walls to create suites.
    Homeless removed copper wiring to sell.
    Homeless ruined plumbing, nothing worked.
    Fire Marshal came in and declared it unlivable.
    Hotel was demolished.

    Anecdotal, I know.

    Exactly. No one is asking the questions about how they are going to keep the hotel/motels clean and in repair. Being homeless in the US is a result of the complete failure of the homeless to perform even the most basic of functions. You going to inspect each unit on a daily basis and have the ability to evict a "tenant" immediately for any destruction of property? Is drug use a cause for eviction? Is there a curfew for noise?
    The answer to your questions . . . Nope. Nope. Nope.
  • theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,949 Founders Club
    Snohomish County just bough the Days Inn that closed on Everett Mall Way. They won't tell the developers that are trying to revitalize the mall into something more akin to the U village whom they plan to house there. If it's women and children living in a car then I'm for it. If it's drug zombies then the city may as well plan on closing up all the retail around there and shuttering what's left of the mall. The developers need to know so that they can secure businesses that may be interested in the new "vision" of what the mall wants to be. I work in that area and It's already a borderline shit hole due to its proximity to Casino Road. This move would finish it off. Sucks for me I guess. Would you like a bag for the groceries you're stealing? I'll comp you the 8 cents.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,295
    Guys they have to go SOMEWHERE
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,047 Founders Club

    Snohomish County just bough the Days Inn that closed on Everett Mall Way. They won't tell the developers that are trying to revitalize the mall into something more akin to the U village whom they plan to house there. If it's women and children living in a car then I'm for it. If it's drug zombies then the city may as well plan on closing up all the retail around there and shuttering what's left of the mall. The developers need to know so that they can secure businesses that may be interested in the new "vision" of what the mall wants to be. I work in that area and It's already a borderline shit hole due to its proximity to Casino Road. This move would finish it off. Sucks for me I guess. Would you like a bag for the groceries you're stealing? I'll comp you the 8 cents.

    The union gospel mission specializes in taking in women and children abandoned by some deadbeat

    Also have rules for males. It actually works for those who want it

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,262 Standard Supporter

    Snohomish County just bough the Days Inn that closed on Everett Mall Way. They won't tell the developers that are trying to revitalize the mall into something more akin to the U village whom they plan to house there. If it's women and children living in a car then I'm for it. If it's drug zombies then the city may as well plan on closing up all the retail around there and shuttering what's left of the mall. The developers need to know so that they can secure businesses that may be interested in the new "vision" of what the mall wants to be. I work in that area and It's already a borderline shit hole due to its proximity to Casino Road. This move would finish it off. Sucks for me I guess. Would you like a bag for the groceries you're stealing? I'll comp you the 8 cents.

    The union gospel mission specializes in taking in women and children abandoned by some deadbeat

    Also have rules for males. It actually works for those who want it

    UGM is one of the few in the homeless industrial complex that show results.

    Accountability and expectations. Who knew?

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,961 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    Guys they have to go SOMEWHERE

    They used to be called hobos and would be on the sparsely populated exteriors of towns. Now they all congregate in the center of towns. Liberals have caused most of these problems as they think they are helping by giving them handouts. If you feed them and give them money they will never change and never leave. One our worst vagrants was passed out on sidewalk and his arm was outstretched and his hand open. Idiots walked by and put money in his hand. When he came around he had plenty to get loaded again.

    Feed them and they will come in droves. Santa Monica fed them for many years. The entire area around where the herd feedings occurred was a disaster area. When Santa Monica finally stopped that program they scattered out into the surrounding areas and everyone else's problems increased substantially.

    You drive them out by enforcing the laws. But Kali changed some laws like sleeping in cars. Liberal commie courts have a profound effect on society when they proclaim non existent rights for these shitbags.

    Most are mentally ill, addicts or both. They commit large numbers of crimes. Mostly theft but also cover the entire range up to and including murder. Massive drain on public services like police and fire.

    Mental facilities are nonexistent these days and if you can get them in a psych ward they are out in an few hours. They toss some meds in them and give them a bus token to get back where they came from. Hospitals like Harbor General in L.A. have psych wards but they try and turn everything away. I've taken loons in and if they smell a whiff or booze they'll say they are just drunk and refuse to accept them. I figured out how to stop that. I just started uncuffing them inside the psych ward. The nurses would go nuts and I'd just respond "you said they're not crazy so I'm letting him go here" They'd take them then!
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,389 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    thechatch said:

    Guys they have to go SOMEWHERE

    They used to be called hobos and would be on the sparsely populated exteriors of towns. Now they all congregate in the center of towns. Liberals have caused most of these problems as they think they are helping by giving them handouts. If you feed them and give them money they will never change and never leave. One our worst vagrants was passed out on sidewalk and his arm was outstretched and his hand open. Idiots walked by and put money in his hand. When he came around he had plenty to get loaded again.

    Feed them and they will come in droves. Santa Monica fed them for many years. The entire area around where the herd feedings occurred was a disaster area. When Santa Monica finally stopped that program they scattered out into the surrounding areas and everyone else's problems increased substantially.

    You drive them out by enforcing the laws. But Kali changed some laws like sleeping in cars. Liberal commie courts have a profound effect on society when they proclaim non existent rights for these shitbags.

    Most are mentally ill, addicts or both. They commit large numbers of crimes. Mostly theft but also cover the entire range up to and including murder. Massive drain on public services like police and fire.

    Mental facilities are nonexistent these days and if you can get them in a psych ward they are out in an few hours. They toss some meds in them and give them a bus token to get back where they came from. Hospitals like Harbor General in L.A. have psych wards but they try and turn everything away. I've taken loons in and if they smell a whiff or booze they'll say they are just drunk and refuse to accept them. I figured out how to stop that. I just started uncuffing them inside the psych ward. The nurses would go nuts and I'd just respond "you said they're not crazy so I'm letting him go here" They'd take them then!
    Old Tavern only had nine lives. Shut by the virus and then homeless occupied. If only they had moved these quality homeless into a new motel.


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