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People forget Cocaine Mitch fucked with the purse strings all over the country - especially in Alaska - to defeat MAGA candidates.RaceBannon said:Trump clearly had an effect and since the GOP lost a negative effect
But don't let that cover up larger reasons why the GOP are a bunch of pussy losers. They get paid win or lose. Losing can pay better.
GOP never embraced Trump or his base. Now the establishment has to run against that base. Good luck the rest of the way
They hated St Reagan and his base too.
The GOP lost to a brain dead turnip in PA and like a beaten wife blamed themselves for not having dinner ready on time. TRUMP! OZ!
Hello? 99% of candidates are shitty. Doesn't stop the democrats
People forget that.
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Exactly. This is not cut and dried on either of these dudes. Plenty of pro and con with both of them.RoadTrip said:
Who's pushing that Bob? I'm not even saying I don't want Desantis. I appreciate the way he has governed Florida and hope he would do the same federally. I don't trust the terrible fed hires Trump made nor the establishment king makers getting behind Desantis.
Trump was great on China, great on energy, great on getting out of endless wars and great on America first. He was terrible on Covid/Vaxx, waffled a bit on gun rights for second, terrible on personnel hires, terrible on being a narcistic retard and basically ran a three ring circus in full attack mode for 7 years now.
DeSantis was good on the Vid (took him a second), great on media pushback, great on taxes (so was Trump), great on Disney/culture war stuff, etc. But he has been terrible with this latest cozy up to the Bushes and could possibly turn out to be a complete America First charlatan who is completely beholden to the uniparty.
Look deep enough into anyone's closet and you will always find shit. I personally am titled toward Ron, not because he is more electable (I am not even convinced that is true if Trumps base stays home it's over), but because I would actually prefer Trump-lite where I get most of the policy I want without all the bombast. That said, it's awfully early and if Ron turns out to fully embrace uniparty swamp turds then I am done with him.
Race is 100% correct though that it doesn't matter which one gets the nomination (so hard for me to envision Ron beating Trump because his base just won't crack no matter what) they are both going to be Hitler to the left. So whoever it is is running against a corrupt media, a corrupt Big Tech and a mail in voting system that will do everything in it's power to ensure either one loses.
My two coppers.
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So well said. I want to see them debate. Recent history and the liars in establishment media have not documented a truthful account of the greatness which was Ronald Reagan. He fought the deep state in a way much more reminiscent of DeSantis' approach. That said, no Bush can or should be EVER trusted again. They are evil purveyors of globalist agendas.Swaye said:
Exactly. This is not cut and dried on either of these dudes. Plenty of pro and con with both of them.
Trump was great on China, great on energy, great on getting out of endless wars and great on America first. He was terrible on Covid/Vaxx, waffled a bit on gun rights for second, terrible on personnel hires, terrible on being a narcistic retard and basically ran a three ring circus in full attack mode for 7 years now.
DeSantis was good on the Vid (took him a second), great on media pushback, great on taxes (so was Trump), great on Disney/culture war stuff, etc. But he has been terrible with this latest cozy up to the Bushes and could possibly turn out to be a complete America First charlatan who is completely beholden to the uniparty.
Look deep enough into anyone's closet and you will always find shit. I personally am titled toward Ron, not because he is more electable (I am not even convinced that is true if Trumps base stays home it's over), but because I would actually prefer Trump-lite where I get most of the policy I want without all the bombast. That said, it's awfully early and if Ron turns out to fully embrace uniparty swamp turds then I am done with him.
Race is 100% correct though that it doesn't matter which one gets the nomination (so hard for me to envision Ron beating Trump because his base just won't crack no matter what) they are both going to be Hitler to the left. So whoever it is is running against a corrupt media, a corrupt Big Tech and a mail in voting system that will do everything in it's power to ensure either one loses.
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Nobody is harder on Bush than me but the conundrum is without their support your Trump with your dick in your hand and no support. The GOP fucked Trump more than the left
The conundrum is what price to get establishment support?
4 years from now its not an issue. This time around it is
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Race, I think you already know this but nothing will change until the cancer is completely eliminated. It won't happen in my lifetime and, quite frankly, I don't think any of us want to be around when what is required happens.RaceBannon said:Nobody is harder on Bush than me but the conundrum is without their support your Trump with your dick in your hand and no support. The GOP fucked Trump more than the left
The conundrum is what price to get establishment support?
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My hope for an issues based GOP primary died in Waco. I want RDS to enter the race and bludgeon the shit out of Trump for as long as the money will last. If it works and he's the nominee I'm very happy. If it doesn't then Trump loses to Gavin. We can then focus on finding the right person to beat him in 2028.
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You guys still hate Trump more than you hate the democrats
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I voted for Trump, I haven't voted for a Rat in 30 years.RaceBannon said:You guys still hate Trump more than you hate the democrats
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I wrote in Ted Cruz in 2016 because I didn't trust Trump. I enthusiastically voted for Trump in 2020. I'll vote for Trump with no reservations in 2024 if he is the republican nominee. Interesting all the discussion from our leftards about which dem they want to vote for in 2024. Just more of that honest conversation they want to have about anything.SFGbob said:
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Stacey Abrams ran for Gov on unlimited abortion and masks all day long. As much as libs would like us to believe abortion is just as critical as trans rights, it falls behind unemployment and inflation.Pitchfork51 said:Republicans will lose until they drop the abortion shit
Whoever the GOP runs, the party needs to show statistics of Californians and New Yorkers moving in droves to Fla, Ga, and Tx. Run videos of Biden lobbying to cut Social Security and shoplifters roaming store aisles without fear of repercussion.
Finish with Biden gaffes
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But you still hate him
Now to be fair here at the tug we get plenty of Biden bashing. Guys like Mitch and the GOP leadership prefer Biden to Trump
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Agreed. The average chardonnay drinking suburban housewife seldom thinks about abortion. These Karens however live in fear. Time to go Lee Atwater and scare the sh*t out of them about crime. White women are getting car jacked on a daily basis and no democrat has the slightest interest in shutting it down. CRT and grooming are losers for the left, but you need ads that show what is going on in the schools. Hell, the Biden administration wanted parents treated as domestic terrorists for bringing up actual books in elementary libraries. When a leftard's immediate response to CRT criticism was that it was only being "discussed" in graduate programs you knew that an actual discussion on it was like salt on a slug.georgiaduck said:
Stacey Abrams ran for Gov on unlimited abortion and masks all day long. As much as libs would like us to believe abortion is just as critical as trans rights, it falls behind unemployment and inflation.
Whoever the GOP runs, the party needs to show statistics of Californians and New Yorkers moving in droves to Fla, Ga, and Tx. Run videos of Biden lobbying to cut Social Security and shoplifters roaming store aisles without fear of repercussion.
Finish with Biden gaffes
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Georgia and WL are right. Inslee, Newsom, and Witmer got re elected just as impressively as DeSantis
People think that Reagan got elected because of the Christian Coalition and abortion. I think that got him a landslide. He got elected the same way Nixon did - Lawn Order
By election time being a racist opposed to CRT and wanting Trans genocide will alarm the housewives. Alarm them back with some real crime stats
I didn't care about much of the kids stuff until I got a grand daughter. She'll start kindergarten next fall. Now school stuff is a voting issue for me
At Thanksgiving some of the small girls were putting female tiaras on a boy and the dads said - knock it off he's a boy. Not worried about our son. The "black community" wants boys and girls
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It will be another game where the refs are paid off and the lights will go dark at halftime again.Swaye said:
Exactly. This is not cut and dried on either of these dudes. Plenty of pro and con with both of them.
Trump was great on China, great on energy, great on getting out of endless wars and great on America first. He was terrible on Covid/Vaxx, waffled a bit on gun rights for second, terrible on personnel hires, terrible on being a narcistic retard and basically ran a three ring circus in full attack mode for 7 years now.
DeSantis was good on the Vid (took him a second), great on media pushback, great on taxes (so was Trump), great on Disney/culture war stuff, etc. But he has been terrible with this latest cozy up to the Bushes and could possibly turn out to be a complete America First charlatan who is completely beholden to the uniparty.
Look deep enough into anyone's closet and you will always find shit. I personally am titled toward Ron, not because he is more electable (I am not even convinced that is true if Trumps base stays home it's over), but because I would actually prefer Trump-lite where I get most of the policy I want without all the bombast. That said, it's awfully early and if Ron turns out to fully embrace uniparty swamp turds then I am done with him.
Race is 100% correct though that it doesn't matter which one gets the nomination (so hard for me to envision Ron beating Trump because his base just won't crack no matter what) they are both going to be Hitler to the left. So whoever it is is running against a corrupt media, a corrupt Big Tech and a mail in voting system that will do everything in it's power to ensure either one loses.
My two coppers.
Sadly. For all of us.
It’s beyond amazing that anyone who pays attention can support what is going on here at home and abroad during this administration.
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Mail in voting... a ballot harvesting... gop needs to up their gamepawz said:
You're never going to convince me Joey was the most popular presidential candidate ever.
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Perfectly normal vote spike. The trucks come early in the wee morning hours when the counting is shut down. Happens every election.
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It will nowSledog said:Perfectly normal vote spike. The trucks come early in the wee morning hours when the counting is shut down. Happens every election.
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The DIMS want to play out elections in the gutter. The GOP needs to play where the opposition is.
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So far what I have gotten out of this thread, the ruling party will win big.
Which consists of old white men, a few entrenched blacks, younger guys already in power who suck the government tit, and whomever the Dems select to run for President.
If a big Red wave hits again the GOP will only lose 2 senate seats and 17 congressional seats. -
The cheat is the problem. Dims are in full communist mode and if they get power again the country is done. They want civil war and may well get it.LebamDawg said:So far what I have gotten out of this thread, the ruling party will win big.
Which consists of old white men, a few entrenched blacks, younger guys already in power who suck the government tit, and whomever the Dems select to run for President.
If a big Red wave hits again the GOP will only lose 2 senate seats and 17 congressional seats. -
Lol that's like word for word what the people on the left say about republicansSledog said:
The cheat is the problem. Dims are in full communist mode and if they get power again the country is done. They want civil war and may well get it. -
Let me know when they indict Obama.Pitchfork51 said:
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Says the Dog Whistler…WestlinnDuck said:
Agreed. The average chardonnay drinking suburban housewife seldom thinks about abortion. These Karens however live in fear. Time to go Lee Atwater and scare the sh*t out of them about crime. White women are getting car jacked on a daily basis and no democrat has the slightest interest in shutting it down. CRT and grooming are losers for the left, but you need ads that show what is going on in the schools. Hell, the Biden administration wanted parents treated as domestic terrorists for bringing up actual books in elementary libraries. When a leftard's immediate response to CRT criticism was that it was only being "discussed" in graduate programs you knew that an actual discussion on it was like salt on a slug. -
Why would they indict a national hero? Dude should be talked about the same way George Washington is. Obamacare literally saved my life.Sledog said:
Let me know when they indict Obama. -
PurpleThrobber said:
People forget Cocaine Mitch fucked with the purse strings all over the country - especially in Alaska - to defeat MAGA candidates.
People forget that.
How so?haie said:
Why would they indict a national hero? Dude should be talked about the same way George Washington is. Obamacare literally saved my life. -
Anecdotal.haie said:
Why would they indict a national hero? Dude should be talked about the same way George Washington is. Obamacare literally saved my life.
@MelloDawg did I do that right?
Sorry you needed serious medical care. But that shit needs to be cheaper, not more expensive. Obamacare usurps historical economic modeling that makes advances in technology cheaper over tim. Obamacare hardened the monopoly and makes access to care MORE difficult and MORE expensive for those who do not work for government or a Fortune 1000.
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"It's a sad day for America" from the Corrupt Media as they attempt to mask their joy.
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Is this a Dazzler alt account or are there 2 people this fucking dumb in the world?haie said:
Why would they indict a national hero? Dude should be talked about the same way George Washington is. Obamacare literally saved my life. -
Lolhaie said:
Why would they indict a national hero? Dude should be talked about the same way George Washington is. Obamacare literally saved my life. -
Fucking LOLSledog said:
Is this a Dazzler alt account or are there 2 people this fucking dumb in the world?
