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Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?

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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam

    Post the articles/videos/whatever that state 75% of the Ukranian army is destroyed.

    If that were the case, Russia should have no problem taking over Bahkmut while thousands of Ukranian soldiers get trained on better gear in Europe and the US, right?

    But then again, you still think Russia is going to essentially take over all of Ukraine. So you're not exactly living in what we like to call -- reality.
    What's funny is even Prigozhin has estimated that it will take 10+ years to conquer all of Ukraine.

    The Russia fanboys in the tug aren't content with that though. Onwards!
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,975 Swaye's Wigwam

    So there's that.
    He took a shot and went for the kill early. Then realized that wasn’t going to work and went back to what Russia is good at, artillery and being able to outlast the other side.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,992 Swaye's Wigwam

    What's funny is even Prigozhin has estimated that it will take 10+ years to conquer all of Ukraine.

    The Russia fanboys in the tug aren't content with that though. Onwards!
    Prigozhin was also just whining that his PMC unit is at risk of being encircled in Bahkmut
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam
    pawz said:

    Query for @PostGameOrangeSlices

    If as you claimed earlier that UKR soldiers are killing Russians at a 10:1 clip (something like that), why would UKR feel the need to "violently" recruit fighters?


    Bc as has been mentioned here, population differences.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam

    Never Trump neo con grifter update. Not my team. I did say that the never Trump crowd would seamlessly become the never DeSantis crowd. @GrandpaSankey saw that coming

    You and I were right, DeathSantis is too divisive to be president.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam





    And speaking of brutal colonial empires.

    17 vs. 800

    https://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-myth-of-russian-aggression.html?m=1

    This was all foretold.

    Not our circus, not our monkeys.

    Unless you're Team Military-Industrial Complex. Then, go ahead and continue to whore yourself out.



    Tell me your a fucking @RaceBannon McGovern voting hippie without telling me.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam

    If you need to lie to make your point, maybe you don't have a point.

    You claimed that our arms sale to Ukraine was responsible for getting us out our covid economic mess. That's a lie. When you give someone more money than they give you, that isn't an economic benefit it is is a detriment. Since the Ukraine doesn't have any money outside of what they are getting from the west and the US in particular, when we sell them something and they "pay" for it with a cash grant or a loan from the US they will never repay, that is what we call in finance, a losing proposition. We went over your old tech argument. We have emptied out our javelin missile inventory. Almost all of our stuff was from decades ago but has been updated.
    You like eating that strawman ass before you bend it over to phuck it?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam

    Anyone with half a brain knows this shitshow started in 2014 and dramatically escalated with a full on invasion in 2022

    Its the reason Ukraine was able to hold off Russia when they assaulted Kyiv and Kharkiv

    Not that you idiots can even process that. So many excuses. "It was a tactical retreat to high ground"

    Aids posters
    Trump sent lethal aid to Ukraine while Obama didn't.

    Some of us are old enough to remember the tug cheering that.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Sorry to interrupt the circle jerk to bring you news from the front:

    Russia continues to do nothing, and has brought out T55's from storage

    Meanwhile, Ukraine not wanting to negotiate with genocidal dictators before they launch an offensive is disturbing to you smooth brains

    Carry on. Bumping this thread will get more and more hilarious.

    "Wont someone think of the dead Ukrainians?! Why wont they negotiate with Putin?!"


    Yeah, as if they werent invaded. Speaking of chickenhawks.

    You’re such a child. It’s pathetic that you believing dragging Ukrainians into service to be ground up by Russian troops is somehow humane. You dumbfuck.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam

    Any day now Bahkmut will fall. Pretty impressive. Like the US struggling to take Tiajuana. Very impressive.

    It will be even more hilarious to see you make excuses and cope when Ukraine starts taking back land with Leopard tanks, Challenger tanks, and Bradley's.

    It's clear who you want to succeed here. The fascist invading regime.


    Fucking idiot puppet
    Tijuana is much bigger.

    This is like the US losing 20,000 troops and hundreds of tanks to take the town of Tecate near the border over the course of a year and change.

    It was strategically important when Russia had plans to take Kharkiv as a logistics hub but now it's just rubble on the frontline border.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    He took a shot and went for the kill early. Then realized that wasn’t going to work and went back to what Russia is good at, artillery and being able to outlast the other side.
    Sure. I'm happy to watch Russia expend another generation to try and subdue Ukraine.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Tijuana is much bigger.

    This is like the US losing 20,000 troops and hundreds of tanks to take the town of Tecate near the border over the course of a year and change.

    It was strategically important when Russia had plans to take Kharkiv as a logistics hub but now it's just rubble on the frontline border.
    So why do we need to send aid to Ukraine then?
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,975 Swaye's Wigwam

    Sure. I'm happy to watch Russia expend another generation to try and subdue Ukraine.
    That’s where we differ then. I’d prefer it be over and people stop dying. I fail to see the cost/benefit you do in Ukraine winning a long drawn out war. I don’t care about issuing punitive damages to Russia at the cost that would be required to actually win by the terms talked about by our government.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,992 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    You’re such a child. It’s pathetic that you believing dragging Ukrainians into service to be ground up by Russian troops is somehow humane. You dumbfuck.
    I believe Ukranians have the right to defend themselves. Fuck off you fucking genocide apologist
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    So why do we need to send aid to Ukraine then?
    Binary thinking is speshul.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    That’s where we differ then. I’d prefer it be over and people stop dying. I fail to see the cost/benefit you do in Ukraine winning a long drawn out war. I don’t care about issuing punitive damages to Russia at the cost that would be required to actually win by the terms talked about by our government.
    Sure, convince Russia to go home and it will all be over.

    "Ceasefires" are purely political kabuki. Russia did that after seizing Crimea in 2014...

    The Ukrainians decided to defend their country against invaders even at the cost of their own blood. That's their right.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,975 Swaye's Wigwam

    Sure, convince Russia to go home and it will all be over.

    "Ceasefires" are purely political kabuki. Russia did that after seizing Crimea in 2014...

    The Ukrainians decided to defend their country against invaders even at the cost of their own blood. That's their right.
    No one is saying they don't have a right to defend themselves. I buy that Europe has an interest there, let them do it.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,344 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited March 2023
    Bob_C said:

    No one is saying they don't have a right to defend themselves. I buy that Europe has an interest there, let them do it.
    Despite the screeching of some, $100B in cash hasn't been sent to Ukr.

    Most of what's been sent would have costed more to dispose of or in upkeep of an outdated system meant to counter...Russian assets.

    Basically we just discount bought NATO vs. Russia without shedding any Nato blood.

    It ensures NATO security for a generation. Edit: if not forever.

    There's pork and graft rolled in there but hardly more than the normal defense budget. The difference being we actually will get a significant return on strategic security for once.

    The tug seems to be determined not to take the W over a rival program because they hate the coach and want him fired.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 46,826 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2023

    Tell me your a fucking @RaceBannon McGovern voting hippie without telling me.
    McGovern was on the right side of history. Just a little too soon before the MIC had to tuck and run out of Vietnam.


    Just as the hippies will be right again in UKR




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