Steve Emtman - Greatest Defensive Lineman in Pac-12 History
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This isn't even debatable.dnc said:
12th NFL pick versus 1st NFL pick.Goduckies said:Lol uh no 5 years in the NFL vs 12 years Pro Bowler and soon to be hall of famer Haloti Ngata.
0 Heisman votes (tied for last in the country) versus 357 Heisman votes (four in the country).
Ngata was a very good player. Stan Emptermann, before he blew out his knees was better.
HTH
Only a fucking idiot in their 20's/early 30s would even try to make a case for Ngata.
Stan Empterman was otherworldly.
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YellowSnow said:
This!AOG said:why did huge shoulderpads and the horseshoe neck pad go out of vogue? That's the problem!
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In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGOaLzgf8TI&ab_channel=SW561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHdmX2MINg&ab_channel=J.J.Meredith
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dtd said:
In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.
I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8
At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.
Some things to consider:
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
2× National champion (1987, 1989)
Consensus All-American (1989)
Pro FB Hall of Fame
I saw him dunk a basketball
I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition.
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Didn't play in the Pac 12
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Are you sure?RaceBannon said:Didn't play in the Pac 12
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I think I can fit that onto a pilsner glasscreepycoug said:dtd said:In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.
I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8
At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.
Some things to consider:
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
2× National champion (1987, 1989)
Consensus All-American (1989)
Pro FB Hall of Fame
I saw him dunk a basketball
I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition. -
wordcreepycoug said:dtd said:In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.
I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8
At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.
Some things to consider:
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
2× National champion (1987, 1989)
Consensus All-American (1989)
Pro FB Hall of Fame
I saw him dunk a basketball
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Fuckin A, man.Goduckies said:Lol uh no 5 years in the NFL vs 12 years Pro Bowler and soon to be hall of famer Haloti Ngata.
I must have missed where Moon played against Stan in college.creepycoug said:dtd said:In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.
I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8
At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.
Some things to consider:
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
2× National champion (1987, 1989)
Consensus All-American (1989)
Pro FB Hall of Fame
I saw him dunk a basketball
I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition. -
You might have.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Fuckin A, man.Goduckies said:Lol uh no 5 years in the NFL vs 12 years Pro Bowler and soon to be hall of famer Haloti Ngata.
I must have missed where Moon played against Stan in college.creepycoug said:dtd said:In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.
I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8
At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.
Some things to consider:
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
2× National champion (1987, 1989)
Consensus All-American (1989)
Pro FB Hall of Fame
I saw him dunk a basketball
I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition.
In any event, if you can’t trust Moon’s assessment, you can’t be a Real Dawg.
