Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?
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Is China really that much aligned with Russia here?RaceBannon said:
So like we said China is the real threat and now they are aligned with RussiaPostGameOrangeSlices said:
There's always another side to the story, I'm not saying there isn't.46XiJCAB said:
You’re too stupid to acknowledge there’s another side to your sunshine ass-pumping story. No side is “winning” right now. Just a lot of death and destruction but Joey and the MIC need their proxy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Youre fighting the good fight bot, but this thread is filled with the dumbest of the dumb, angry old dipshit conservatives who are incapable of acknowledging reality.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.WestlinnDuck said:
Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?UW_Doog_Bot said:But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.
The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.
That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.
"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.
Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.
Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).
Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).
If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.
Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.
Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.
Everything is now a conspiracy to the low IQ on the right, even selling military equipment to kill a bunch of Russians larping as WW2 Germany.
Really pathetic stuff.
So the carnage must continue so we taxpayers can resupply our military equipment while people get rich. “We’re saving a democracy” is BS.
Joey was in Ukraine today. No calls for a ceasefire or negotiated peace that I’ve heard. But he’s concerned for those Ukrainian children that’s for sure.
But Russia planned for the complete capitulation of Ukraine in short order and it was a complete failure.
Russia has been driven back from most of the land they initially invaded and took over. It's been a complete catastrophe for them and the only reason they are still fighting is sunk cost fallacy.
US policy for decades is to keep Russia and China at odds
Way to go Joe
No need for US involvement.
The same people who brought you this show brought you such hits as covid in the lab and the summer of burning love
But they aren't lying this time
I think China is probably pissed at how dumb Putin was with his Special Military Operation. -
Ukraine doesn't want to give Russia a chance to regroup and try again. I don't blame them - keep the gas on while the enemy is reeling.46XiJCAB said:
Sounds like Ukraine could negotiate peace from their position of strength if everything you read and believe is true. What’s stopping them from saving the children? Besides Joey and the MIC?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There's always another side to the story, I'm not saying there isn't.46XiJCAB said:
You’re too stupid to acknowledge there’s another side to your sunshine ass-pumping story. No side is “winning” right now. Just a lot of death and destruction but Joey and the MIC need their proxy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Youre fighting the good fight bot, but this thread is filled with the dumbest of the dumb, angry old dipshit conservatives who are incapable of acknowledging reality.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.WestlinnDuck said:
Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?UW_Doog_Bot said:But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.
The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.
That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.
"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.
Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.
Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).
Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).
If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.
Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.
Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.
Everything is now a conspiracy to the low IQ on the right, even selling military equipment to kill a bunch of Russians larping as WW2 Germany.
Really pathetic stuff.
So the carnage must continue so we taxpayers can resupply our military equipment while people get rich. “We’re saving a democracy” is BS.
Joey was in Ukraine today. No calls for a ceasefire or negotiated peace that I’ve heard. But he’s concerned for those Ukrainian children that’s for sure.
But Russia planned for the complete capitulation of Ukraine in short order and it was a complete failure.
Russia has been driven back from most of the land they initially invaded and took over. It's been a complete catastrophe for them and the only reason they are still fighting is sunk cost fallacy.
BTW, Putin was informed of Joey’s visit beforehand. -
Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
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Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
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The video was badass, no argument there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Oh, I'm not waving the white flag. Ill continue to post updates on this conflict, which I follow extremely closely.pawz said:
Look forward to watching many more videos of Russians getting annihilated, and many more updates of the situation.
The fact some conservatives cant even appreciate Rambo wiping out a squad of Russians in 30 seconds is pathetic. This is AMERICA damn it. -
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
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PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Why do you guys completely ignore that Ukraine does not want to be a part of Russia?pawz said:
By getting in bed with the West.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How is Zelensky's people dying, thanks to him?RaceBannon said:George Washington rode his horse in front of the lines
Zelensky sucks cock in European capitals while his people get killed thanks to him
Real fucking courageous
You really think mush brain went into some sort of danger zone for his photo op with the dude who has paid his family millions?
Well son of a bitch
The mental gymnastics you must be going through.
A some point he will experience the realization that he was the cannon fodder all along.
Do you know Russia tried to overthrow elections to get people in there that are friendly to Russia?
Ukraine determined they want independence. That is why thousands of their citizens are going to war and dying for freedom.
If you can't respectthat as anTeam AmericanWorld Police, FUCK OFF -
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
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Yes China is aligned and selling Russian natural gas to the westPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Is China really that much aligned with Russia here?RaceBannon said:
So like we said China is the real threat and now they are aligned with RussiaPostGameOrangeSlices said:
There's always another side to the story, I'm not saying there isn't.46XiJCAB said:
You’re too stupid to acknowledge there’s another side to your sunshine ass-pumping story. No side is “winning” right now. Just a lot of death and destruction but Joey and the MIC need their proxy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Youre fighting the good fight bot, but this thread is filled with the dumbest of the dumb, angry old dipshit conservatives who are incapable of acknowledging reality.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.WestlinnDuck said:
Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?UW_Doog_Bot said:But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.
The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.
That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.
"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.
Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.
Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).
Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).
If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.
Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.
Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.
Everything is now a conspiracy to the low IQ on the right, even selling military equipment to kill a bunch of Russians larping as WW2 Germany.
Really pathetic stuff.
So the carnage must continue so we taxpayers can resupply our military equipment while people get rich. “We’re saving a democracy” is BS.
Joey was in Ukraine today. No calls for a ceasefire or negotiated peace that I’ve heard. But he’s concerned for those Ukrainian children that’s for sure.
But Russia planned for the complete capitulation of Ukraine in short order and it was a complete failure.
Russia has been driven back from most of the land they initially invaded and took over. It's been a complete catastrophe for them and the only reason they are still fighting is sunk cost fallacy.
US policy for decades is to keep Russia and China at odds
Way to go Joe
No need for US involvement.
The same people who brought you this show brought you such hits as covid in the lab and the summer of burning love
But they aren't lying this time
I think China is probably pissed at how dumb Putin was with his Special Military Operation.
Putin is getting rich thanks to Biden
A Biden always keeps his word -
I don't think China is a fan of a NATO that suddenly has a purposeRaceBannon said:
Yes China is aligned and selling Russian natural gas to the westPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Is China really that much aligned with Russia here?RaceBannon said:
So like we said China is the real threat and now they are aligned with RussiaPostGameOrangeSlices said:
There's always another side to the story, I'm not saying there isn't.46XiJCAB said:
You’re too stupid to acknowledge there’s another side to your sunshine ass-pumping story. No side is “winning” right now. Just a lot of death and destruction but Joey and the MIC need their proxy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Youre fighting the good fight bot, but this thread is filled with the dumbest of the dumb, angry old dipshit conservatives who are incapable of acknowledging reality.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.WestlinnDuck said:
Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?UW_Doog_Bot said:But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.
The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.
That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.
"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.
Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.
Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).
Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).
If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.
Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.
Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.
Everything is now a conspiracy to the low IQ on the right, even selling military equipment to kill a bunch of Russians larping as WW2 Germany.
Really pathetic stuff.
So the carnage must continue so we taxpayers can resupply our military equipment while people get rich. “We’re saving a democracy” is BS.
Joey was in Ukraine today. No calls for a ceasefire or negotiated peace that I’ve heard. But he’s concerned for those Ukrainian children that’s for sure.
But Russia planned for the complete capitulation of Ukraine in short order and it was a complete failure.
Russia has been driven back from most of the land they initially invaded and took over. It's been a complete catastrophe for them and the only reason they are still fighting is sunk cost fallacy.
US policy for decades is to keep Russia and China at odds
Way to go Joe
No need for US involvement.
The same people who brought you this show brought you such hits as covid in the lab and the summer of burning love
But they aren't lying this time
I think China is probably pissed at how dumb Putin was with his Special Military Operation.
Putin is getting rich thanks to Biden
A Biden always keeps his word -
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
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Yes China is aligned and selling Russian natural gas to the westPostGameOrangeSlices said:
I don't think China is a fan of a NATO that suddenly has a purposeRaceBannon said:
Yes China is aligned and selling Russian natural gas to the westPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Is China really that much aligned with Russia here?RaceBannon said:
So like we said China is the real threat and now they are aligned with RussiaPostGameOrangeSlices said:
There's always another side to the story, I'm not saying there isn't.46XiJCAB said:
You’re too stupid to acknowledge there’s another side to your sunshine ass-pumping story. No side is “winning” right now. Just a lot of death and destruction but Joey and the MIC need their proxy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Youre fighting the good fight bot, but this thread is filled with the dumbest of the dumb, angry old dipshit conservatives who are incapable of acknowledging reality.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.WestlinnDuck said:
Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?UW_Doog_Bot said:But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.
The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.
That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.
"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.
Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.
Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).
Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).
If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.
Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.
Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.
Everything is now a conspiracy to the low IQ on the right, even selling military equipment to kill a bunch of Russians larping as WW2 Germany.
Really pathetic stuff.
So the carnage must continue so we taxpayers can resupply our military equipment while people get rich. “We’re saving a democracy” is BS.
Joey was in Ukraine today. No calls for a ceasefire or negotiated peace that I’ve heard. But he’s concerned for those Ukrainian children that’s for sure.
But Russia planned for the complete capitulation of Ukraine in short order and it was a complete failure.
Russia has been driven back from most of the land they initially invaded and took over. It's been a complete catastrophe for them and the only reason they are still fighting is sunk cost fallacy.
US policy for decades is to keep Russia and China at odds
Way to go Joe
No need for US involvement.
The same people who brought you this show brought you such hits as covid in the lab and the summer of burning love
But they aren't lying this time
I think China is probably pissed at how dumb Putin was with his Special Military Operation.
Putin is getting rich thanks to Biden
A Biden always keeps his word
Putin is getting rich thanks to Biden
What you think is retarded -
Chickenhawks enjoy people dying in war.Doogles said:
The video was badass, no argument there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Oh, I'm not waving the white flag. Ill continue to post updates on this conflict, which I follow extremely closely.pawz said:
Look forward to watching many more videos of Russians getting annihilated, and many more updates of the situation.
The fact some conservatives cant even appreciate Rambo wiping out a squad of Russians in 30 seconds is pathetic. This is AMERICA damn it.
Don't be a chickenhawk.
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Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots. -
There would be no dying in war without the ego of Putin here.PurpleThrobber said:
Chickenhawks enjoy people dying in war.Doogles said:
The video was badass, no argument there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Oh, I'm not waving the white flag. Ill continue to post updates on this conflict, which I follow extremely closely.pawz said:
Look forward to watching many more videos of Russians getting annihilated, and many more updates of the situation.
The fact some conservatives cant even appreciate Rambo wiping out a squad of Russians in 30 seconds is pathetic. This is AMERICA damn it.
Don't be a chickenhawk.
-
Putin is already rich.RaceBannon said:
Yes China is aligned and selling Russian natural gas to the westPostGameOrangeSlices said:
I don't think China is a fan of a NATO that suddenly has a purposeRaceBannon said:
Yes China is aligned and selling Russian natural gas to the westPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Is China really that much aligned with Russia here?RaceBannon said:
So like we said China is the real threat and now they are aligned with RussiaPostGameOrangeSlices said:
There's always another side to the story, I'm not saying there isn't.46XiJCAB said:
You’re too stupid to acknowledge there’s another side to your sunshine ass-pumping story. No side is “winning” right now. Just a lot of death and destruction but Joey and the MIC need their proxy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Youre fighting the good fight bot, but this thread is filled with the dumbest of the dumb, angry old dipshit conservatives who are incapable of acknowledging reality.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.WestlinnDuck said:
Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?UW_Doog_Bot said:But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.
The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.
That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.
"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.
Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.
Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).
Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).
If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.
Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.
Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.
Everything is now a conspiracy to the low IQ on the right, even selling military equipment to kill a bunch of Russians larping as WW2 Germany.
Really pathetic stuff.
So the carnage must continue so we taxpayers can resupply our military equipment while people get rich. “We’re saving a democracy” is BS.
Joey was in Ukraine today. No calls for a ceasefire or negotiated peace that I’ve heard. But he’s concerned for those Ukrainian children that’s for sure.
But Russia planned for the complete capitulation of Ukraine in short order and it was a complete failure.
Russia has been driven back from most of the land they initially invaded and took over. It's been a complete catastrophe for them and the only reason they are still fighting is sunk cost fallacy.
US policy for decades is to keep Russia and China at odds
Way to go Joe
No need for US involvement.
The same people who brought you this show brought you such hits as covid in the lab and the summer of burning love
But they aren't lying this time
I think China is probably pissed at how dumb Putin was with his Special Military Operation.
Putin is getting rich thanks to Biden
A Biden always keeps his word
Putin is getting rich thanks to Biden
What you think is retarded
Russia is fucked. -
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Turkey isnt leaving NATO.
Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too -
Reuters.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Turkey isnt leaving NATO.
Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too
LOL
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Dude, laugh at the source all you want. Ukraine has a partnership with Turkey to build Bayraktar drones. Google itPurpleThrobber said:
Reuters.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Turkey isnt leaving NATO.
Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too
LOL
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Google.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Dude, laugh at the source all you want. Ukraine has a partnership with Turkey to build Bayraktar drones. Google itPurpleThrobber said:
Reuters.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Turkey isnt leaving NATO.
Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too
LOL
LOL.
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I heard today that Joey and Zelensky are the two greatest Pols of our time for the way they’re saving DeMoCrAcY.
Nothing like a good proxy war to up those poll numbers and attempt to make people forget your domestic Shitshow.
Why talk peace when the polls say War, Death and Destruction are more beneficial. -
You pretend that NATO is a thing. It isn't. It doesn't matter about Turkey, Finland or Sweden. All they want is free sh*t from the World's sucker - the US. NATO, without the US would be a thing if the UK, France and Germany and Poland wanted it to be. The Poles are half in and everyone else is pretending. You globalist have trained them for decades that Uncle Sugar will take care of them and pay the bills. You can feel free to send Zelensky a few bucks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too -
https://defence-blog.com/ukrainian-military-receives-new-batch-of-bayraktar-tb2-drones/PurpleThrobber said:
Google.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Dude, laugh at the source all you want. Ukraine has a partnership with Turkey to build Bayraktar drones. Google itPurpleThrobber said:
Reuters.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Turkey isnt leaving NATO.
Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too
LOL
LOL.
https://www.dailysabah.com/business/defense/project-completed-legal-framework-ready-for-ukrainian-bayraktar-tb2-plant -
We know that you prefer Russia, comradeWestlinnDuck said:
You pretend that NATO is a thing. It isn't. It doesn't matter about Turkey, Finland or Sweden. All they want is free sh*t from the World's sucker - the US. NATO, without the US would be a thing if the UK, France and Germany and Poland wanted it to be. The Poles are half in and everyone else is pretending. You globalist have trained them for decades that Uncle Sugar will take care of them and pay the bills. You can feel free to send Zelensky a few bucks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too -
The slam of a retard.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
We know that you prefer Russia, comradeWestlinnDuck said:
You pretend that NATO is a thing. It isn't. It doesn't matter about Turkey, Finland or Sweden. All they want is free sh*t from the World's sucker - the US. NATO, without the US would be a thing if the UK, France and Germany and Poland wanted it to be. The Poles are half in and everyone else is pretending. You globalist have trained them for decades that Uncle Sugar will take care of them and pay the bills. You can feel free to send Zelensky a few bucks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Turkey isnt leaving NATO.
Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too -
You pay for dinner with the strawman before the ass phucking started? I think the Ukraine is the lesser of two evils. It was the lame ass Euros that have been sucking off Putin for the last decade and with the complicity of the US deep state gave Putin an Olympics and a World Cup. It was the Euros that slashed their military spending. It was Trump that called out that bull shit and expanded US oil and gas production and drove down Putin's per barrel oil price to $50 down from $100+. It was the Euros and barry that stood by and gave no real sanctions on Russia. Then we selected a weak ass dementia patient bought and paid for by just about everyone as POTUS. The dementia patient then slashed US oil and gas production, dropped sanctions, okayed the Nord Stream II pipeline expansion. All of which conservatives opposed. Let the Euros pay for it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
We know that you prefer Russia, comradeWestlinnDuck said:
You pretend that NATO is a thing. It isn't. It doesn't matter about Turkey, Finland or Sweden. All they want is free sh*t from the World's sucker - the US. NATO, without the US would be a thing if the UK, France and Germany and Poland wanted it to be. The Poles are half in and everyone else is pretending. You globalist have trained them for decades that Uncle Sugar will take care of them and pay the bills. You can feel free to send Zelensky a few bucks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too -
I totally agree with you on most of this.WestlinnDuck said:
You pay for dinner with the strawman before the ass phucking started? I think the Ukraine is the lesser of two evils. It was the lame ass Euros that have been sucking off Putin for the last decade and with the complicity of the US deep state gave Putin an Olympics and a World Cup. It was the Euros that slashed their military spending. It was Trump that called out that bull shit and expanded US oil and gas production and drove down Putin's per barrel oil price to $50 down from $100+. It was the Euros and barry that stood by and gave no real sanctions on Russia. Then we selected a weak ass dementia patient bought and paid for by just about everyone as POTUS. The dementia patient then slashed US oil and gas production, dropped sanctions, okayed the Nord Stream II pipeline expansion. All of which conservatives opposed. Let the Euros pay for it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
We know that you prefer Russia, comradeWestlinnDuck said:
You pretend that NATO is a thing. It isn't. It doesn't matter about Turkey, Finland or Sweden. All they want is free sh*t from the World's sucker - the US. NATO, without the US would be a thing if the UK, France and Germany and Poland wanted it to be. The Poles are half in and everyone else is pretending. You globalist have trained them for decades that Uncle Sugar will take care of them and pay the bills. You can feel free to send Zelensky a few bucks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-baykar-complete-plant-ukraine-two-years-ceo-2022-10-28/PurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Turkey isnt going anywhere. You might have missed they supplied Ukraine with powerful drones? A huge reason Ukraine fucked up columns of Russian armorPurpleThrobber said:
Turkey is about ready to bail from NATO - that's not perfectly fine. Erdogen is a POS but at least he's been friendly to the west POS.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The US and NATO seem perfectly fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons and intel. If Ukraine wants to fight and die over their land then let them46XiJCAB said:
Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.46XiJCAB said:Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.
Of course the US/NATO military industrial complex is 'fine' with supplying Ukraine with weapons. It's how they run their grift. No 10% for the Big Guy if there's no revenue. No junkets for on the dole politicians if there's no dole to be had.
You get your news from Liz Haliburton Cheney or what?
Jesus. Connect the fucking dots.
I know of an international humanitarian aid group headquartered in Connecticut who is NOT going to Turkey. Cancelled all their flights last week. And it's not that they don't go to every fucking disaster in the world. It's because the political situation in Turkey is so volatile, they don't want to become Iranian-like hostages.
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Turkey isnt leaving NATO.
Finland and Swedend will eventually join, too
NATO was highly flawed and I loved Trump calling them out on it.
But like you said, Russia is evil, and if Ukrainians want to fight and die to prevent Russia from taking them over - then lets fucking help them.
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Bradley's and M1's are old. So are Javelins. We are cycling out our old artillery shells which unlike the Russians we actually do use the expiration dates on instead of letting them blow up. Are you living in a fog of the early 2000's?WestlinnDuck said:
I just pointed out that we aren't sending just "old" military assets to Ukraine. It's all stuff that actually works - like brand new Bradley's, M-1 tanks and state of the artillery and Javelin anti-tank missiles. What we are sending will need to be replaced as we run low on artillery shells and Javelin missiles.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.WestlinnDuck said:
Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?UW_Doog_Bot said:But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.
The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.
That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.
"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.
Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.
Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).
Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).
If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.
Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.
Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.
Both doog_but and PGOS still won't say how it is a win with spending that will hit hundreds of billions in this eternal war. How is the US benefited by spending money we don't have? Stronger economy? Lower debt? Lower inflation? More oil and gas production. Better education for our kids? Closing the southern border? Nope, it's better for America because it's a "win".
All of these things we no longer have to maintain or pay for disposal and can instead buy new kit.
That's before we get into how we now are selling billions in old kit to Nato to then spend on our new shit.
I'm not sure how many ways you need it said but a bit let down by the room following along with this stupid line of reasoning. -
Joey MacArthur, “I knew I would be back.” Referring to his visit today. “Kyiv has captured a part of my heart.”
JFC this is comedy gold.
