Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?

46XiJCAB said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

46XiJCAB said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

WestlinnDuck said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.

The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.

That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.

"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.

Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.

Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?

Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.

Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).

Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).

If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.

Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.

Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.

Youre fighting the good fight bot, but this thread is filled with the dumbest of the dumb, angry old dipshit conservatives who are incapable of acknowledging reality.

Everything is now a conspiracy to the low IQ on the right, even selling military equipment to kill a bunch of Russians larping as WW2 Germany.

Really pathetic stuff.

You’re too stupid to acknowledge there’s another side to your sunshine ass-pumping story. No side is “winning” right now. Just a lot of death and destruction but Joey and the MIC need their proxy.

So the carnage must continue so we taxpayers can resupply our military equipment while people get rich. “We’re saving a democracy” is BS.

Joey was in Ukraine today. No calls for a ceasefire or negotiated peace that I’ve heard. But he’s concerned for those Ukrainian children that’s for sure.

There's always another side to the story, I'm not saying there isn't.

But Russia planned for the complete capitulation of Ukraine in short order and it was a complete failure.

Russia has been driven back from most of the land they initially invaded and took over. It's been a complete catastrophe for them and the only reason they are still fighting is sunk cost fallacy.

Sounds like Ukraine could negotiate peace from their position of strength if everything you read and believe is true. What’s stopping them from saving the children? Besides Joey and the MIC?

BTW, Putin was informed of Joey’s visit beforehand.

46XiJCAB said:

Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.

46XiJCAB said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

46XiJCAB said:

Hey POGS, why isn’t Joey trying to be peacemaker? Or is he more interested in showing Putin what a tough guy he is? For the children of Ukraine.

Multiple NATO big whigs have said it isn't up to them when how and where Ukraine negotiates with Russia.

Fucking copout and you know it. Joey could call for it tomorrow and the World would be forced to join in.

RaceBannon said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

RaceBannon said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

46XiJCAB said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

WestlinnDuck said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

But ma "nuclear threat" is literally a RT talking point aimed at audiences in the West to make housewives nervous about supporting Ukraine with war material. It's unmanly to say the least that so many here are hiding under the rug of appeasement out of political tribalism. Trump was for big swinging dick deterence and so am I.

The fact is that actual Nato would wipe the fucking floor with Russia in a traditional conflict. That's pretty fucking obvious at this point since Russia can't even take a third world tin pot cleptocracy like Ukraine even before the Western support arrived.

That means that the nuclear card is literally Russia's last option for deterence and keeping Nato out of actual boots on ground. They won't use it for anything short of existential threat such as ze' Germans rolling on Moscow again.

"Losing" the war in Ukraine isn't an existential threat for Putin. He has achieved the goal of "de-nazification" and whatever other RT decides to propagandize. If anything, he's used the war to consolidate power, lock Russia down further, rid it of decent, and eliminate rivals. See what he's currently doing to Pregotion and Wagner in Backhmut after he got too upity.

Come at me bro with trying to tell me I don't know shit or need to do research. I've been following this since the Orange revolution. Go Google it bitch.

Outside of feeling good about being the world's policeman, once again how is spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have so that it's Ukrainian theftocrats stealing from us and Ukrainians versus having Russian theftocrats stealing from the Ukrainians? Does this make the world safer for American citizens? Does it make the US wealthier? Does it educate our kids?

Hundreds of billions? Funny math at best. Right up there with calling Bradley's high tech.

Sending cold War era surplus and slapping a "new cost of replacement" sticker on it isn't going to change how schools are funded(which the federal government shouldn't be doing btw).

Clearing out our surplus that was built to kill Russians and selling it to Europe to kill Russians with is basically the best possible outcome for the US. Otherwise we'd be paying for decommissioning and disposal(which costs more than sending it to UKR).

If you want to argue about how the replacement money is spent that's a different discussion about US defense budgets.

Sorry not sorry, this is such an easy win from the US perspective.

Is there a bunch of pork rolled into it? Definitely. Again, learn to be able to distinguish the difference.

Youre fighting the good fight bot, but this thread is filled with the dumbest of the dumb, angry old dipshit conservatives who are incapable of acknowledging reality.

Everything is now a conspiracy to the low IQ on the right, even selling military equipment to kill a bunch of Russians larping as WW2 Germany.

Really pathetic stuff.

You’re too stupid to acknowledge there’s another side to your sunshine ass-pumping story. No side is “winning” right now. Just a lot of death and destruction but Joey and the MIC need their proxy.

So the carnage must continue so we taxpayers can resupply our military equipment while people get rich. “We’re saving a democracy” is BS.

Joey was in Ukraine today. No calls for a ceasefire or negotiated peace that I’ve heard. But he’s concerned for those Ukrainian children that’s for sure.

There's always another side to the story, I'm not saying there isn't.

But Russia planned for the complete capitulation of Ukraine in short order and it was a complete failure.

Russia has been driven back from most of the land they initially invaded and took over. It's been a complete catastrophe for them and the only reason they are still fighting is sunk cost fallacy.

So like we said China is the real threat and now they are aligned with Russia

US policy for decades is to keep Russia and China at odds

Way to go Joe

No need for US involvement.

The same people who brought you this show brought you such hits as covid in the lab and the summer of burning love

But they aren't lying this time

Is China really that much aligned with Russia here?

I think China is probably pissed at how dumb Putin was with his Special Military Operation.

Yes China is aligned and selling Russian natural gas to the west

Putin is getting rich thanks to Biden

A Biden always keeps his word