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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club
    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me

    Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years

    Clemson had a big decade

    UW has fits of glory followed by despair

    Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year

    Its
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Bama
    tOSU
    USC

    Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.

    I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.

    I like 6.
    It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.
    The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.

    I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.

    For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.

    So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.

    #AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
    Things get misquoted around here all the Tim....ain't no big thing.

    That being said, what's a better definition of a Blue Blood than the "Iron Laws"? @creepycoug isn't a Blue Blood because he still doesn't have tradition and no dinero either.
    Miami is a boom or bust program. Would I prefer they were good all the time and had a coach that wanted to stay 25 years and beat everyone senseless? Sure. And there's enough money to make it happen. But I'd take what they've given me over flacid "consistently good but never great." I'd rather reach the peak and see the view and then descend to sea level for a while vs. spending my life at base camp. YMMV.

    Miami has been part of some of the most historically important and visible games ever, has been part of some nationally-compelling rivalries, established sea changes in the game by way of style of play, by way of program culture, has produced a shit ton of truly great name players, is closing in on Buck and Michigan for most alumni in the pro fb HOF (and will then be knocking on SC's door), has one or two of the very best teams ever to be fielded and has been as nationally relevant, love them or hate them, as any program has ever been. Every single person knows who they are and what they've been about. The program that beat one of the most dominant cfb teams ever for its first title, and won 5 and played for 2 others. I could go on, and will if you make me. This is the program that made Jimmy Johnson cry like a little girl on his way to the airport for Dallas.

    I'll take what they've given me over being a Nebraska, Texas, Michigan or ND fan any. day. of. the. week. Those of you who like the monarchy and who like to look down your noses at the newly rich may prefer otherwise. Again, IDFC. It's a Miami thing. You wouldn't understand.
    You'll get no beef from me on Miamuh's achievement. They are, rather easily, the best college football program of the post Bear Bryant - pre Saban at Bammer era. Ironically, Bammer's only title during this timeframe came against the Cane.

    But it's almost like Miami never wanted to transition into a Blue Blood in waiting (stadium situation being prime example) and the bust cycle is coming up on 20 years.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,184 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2023
    creepycoug said:

    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me

    Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years

    Clemson had a big decade

    UW has fits of glory followed by despair

    Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year

    Its
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Bama
    tOSU
    USC

    Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.

    I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.

    I like 6.
    It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.
    The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.

    I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.

    For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.

    So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.

    #AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
    A few in-depth observations:

    1. @Auburndawg was always stupid. I liked him and thought he was funny (to look at), but also always thought he was dumb. And, yes, I do have a view of who here is smart and who is not, and there is plenty of both.

    2. Bluebloods - who really cares? It's a dumb designation/club/list/cohort/thing to discuss. It means absolutely nothing and has little to no consequence. If some team is a blue blood by virtue of piling up wins before black players were allowed or before TV was invented, then I don't care about it and I don't care that others do care about it. IJDC. It's dumb. Like @Auburndawg. Just dumb.

    3. It is invariably implicated by fans of teams that used to be good but aren't anymore, or it's used against an upstart threat to try and squash their mo ... or whatever. It's a play for permanent respeck status that said fanbase tries to make stick to the wall. Sometimes the blueblood wannabes enable this nonsense (hi Husky fans with Trojan cocks in their mouths). I reject it as anti-American. You like permanent status? Go to England where they still pay homage to hereditary title and related bullshit. When you think about, being the opposite of that is what made American great in the first place, and better than GB ever was. Who came crawling to whom when Hitler was about to go in dry? Stiff upper lip wasn't going to get it done in the long-run. American industry made that happen bitches. We're better precisely because we don't stifle ourselves with rigid social hierarchy that has real-world implications. You gotta go get it here if you want it. The Brits have been third-tier forever. Don't twist it; I love The Crown. I eat that shit up. But I also think it's wildly stupid and love that I live somewhere that is full of people who wouldn't think for a second to accept such a ridiculous social arrangement. Same goes for cfb. You're either good now and have been recently or you're not. Don't waste my tim talking to me about all-time records Michigan. IDC. Me going around and squawking about Miami back when at the same time that Pitt is thrusting its cockus in our? collective asses, again, would just be dumb. I've probably done it, but it's still dumb.

    4. Anybody who jerks off to perennial underachieving Texas is just straight pathetic.
    This is exactly what a fan of the Canes would say.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    edited February 2023
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    creepycoug said:

    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me

    Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years

    Clemson had a big decade

    UW has fits of glory followed by despair

    Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year

    Its
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Bama
    tOSU
    USC

    Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.

    I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.

    I like 6.
    It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.
    The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.

    I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.

    For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.

    So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.

    #AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
    A few in-depth observations:

    1. @Auburndawg was always stupid. I liked him and thought he was funny (to look at), but also always thought he was dumb. And, yes, I do have a view of who here is smart and who is not, and there is plenty of both.

    2. Bluebloods - who really cares? It's a dumb designation/club/list/cohort/thing to discuss. It means absolutely nothing and has little to no consequence. If some team is a blue blood by virtue of piling up wins before black players were allowed or before TV was invented, then I don't care about it and I don't care that others do care about it. IJDC. It's dumb. Like @Auburndawg. Just dumb.

    3. It is invariably implicated by fans of teams that used to be good but aren't anymore, or it's used against an upstart threat to try and squash their mo ... or whatever. It's a play for permanent respeck status that said fanbase tries to make stick to the wall. Sometimes the blueblood wannabes enable this nonsense (hi Husky fans with Trojan cocks in their mouths). I reject it as anti-American. You like permanent status? Go to England where they still pay homage to hereditary title and related bullshit. When you think about, being the opposite of that is what made American great in the first place, and better than GB ever was. Who came crawling to whom when Hitler was about to go in dry? Stiff upper lip wasn't going to get it done in the long-run. American industry made that happen bitches. We're better precisely because we don't stifle ourselves with rigid social hierarchy that has real-world implications. You gotta go get it here if you want it. The Brits have been third-tier forever. Don't twist it; I love The Crown. I eat that shit up. But I also think it's wildly stupid and love that I live somewhere that is full of people who wouldn't think for a second to accept such a ridiculous social arrangement. Same goes for cfb. You're either good now and have been recently or you're not. Don't waste my tim talking to me about all-time records Michigan. IDC. Me going around and squawking about Miami back when at the same time that Pitt is thrusting its cockus in our? collective asses, again, would just be dumb. I've probably done it, but it's still dumb.

    4. Anybody who jerks off to perennial underachieving Texas is just straight pathetic.
    This is exactly what a fan of the Canes would say.
    And that is exactly what makes a Cane fan a real American. If one wishes to worship at the feet of one's aristocratic overlords, then one is free to do as one wishes.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me

    Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years

    Clemson had a big decade

    UW has fits of glory followed by despair

    Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year

    Its
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Bama
    tOSU
    USC

    Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.

    I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.

    I like 6.
    It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.
    The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.

    I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.

    For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.

    So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.

    #AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
    Things get misquoted around here all the Tim....ain't no big thing.

    That being said, what's a better definition of a Blue Blood than the "Iron Laws"? @creepycoug isn't a Blue Blood because he still doesn't have tradition and no dinero either.
    Miami is a boom or bust program. Would I prefer they were good all the time and had a coach that wanted to stay 25 years and beat everyone senseless? Sure. And there's enough money to make it happen. But I'd take what they've given me over flacid "consistently good but never great." I'd rather reach the peak and see the view and then descend to sea level for a while vs. spending my life at base camp. YMMV.

    Miami has been part of some of the most historically important and visible games ever, has been part of some nationally-compelling rivalries, established sea changes in the game by way of style of play, by way of program culture, has produced a shit ton of truly great name players, is closing in on Buck and Michigan for most alumni in the pro fb HOF (and will then be knocking on SC's door), has one or two of the very best teams ever to be fielded and has been as nationally relevant, love them or hate them, as any program has ever been. Every single person knows who they are and what they've been about. The program that beat one of the most dominant cfb teams ever for its first title, and won 5 and played for 2 others. I could go on, and will if you make me. This is the program that made Jimmy Johnson cry like a little girl on his way to the airport for Dallas.

    I'll take what they've given me over being a Nebraska, Texas, Michigan or ND fan any. day. of. the. week. Those of you who like the monarchy and who like to look down your noses at the newly rich may prefer otherwise. Again, IDFC. It's a Miami thing. You wouldn't understand.

    but even the stupid city of Miami couldn't take away any of the things I listed. that's all for keeps.
    In some ways,
    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me

    Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years

    Clemson had a big decade

    UW has fits of glory followed by despair

    Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year

    Its
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Bama
    tOSU
    USC

    Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.

    I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.

    I like 6.
    It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.
    The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.

    I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.

    For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.

    So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.

    #AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
    A few in-depth observations:

    1. @Auburndawg was always stupid. I liked him and thought he was funny (to look at), but also always thought he was dumb. And, yes, I do have a view of who here is smart and who is not, and there is plenty of both.

    2. Bluebloods - who really cares? It's a dumb designation/club/list/cohort/thing to discuss. It means absolutely nothing and has little to no consequence. If some team is a blue blood by virtue of piling up wins before black players were allowed or before TV was invented, then I don't care about it and I don't care that others do care about it. IJDC. It's dumb. Like @Auburndawg. Just dumb.

    3. It is invariably implicated by fans of teams that used to be good but aren't anymore, or it's used against an upstart threat to try and squash their mo ... or whatever. It's a play for permanent respeck status that said fanbase tries to make stick to the wall. Sometimes the blueblood wannabes enable this nonsense (hi Husky fans with Trojan cocks in their mouths). I reject it as anti-American. You like permanent status? Go to England where they still pay homage to hereditary title and related bullshit. When you think about, being the opposite of that is what made American great in the first place, and better than GB ever was. Who came crawling to whom when Hitler was about to go in dry? Stiff upper lip wasn't going to get it done in the long-run. American industry made that happen bitches. We're better precisely because we don't stifle ourselves with rigid social hierarchy that has real-world implications. You gotta go get it here if you want it. The Brits have been third-tier forever. Don't twist it; I love The Crown. I eat that shit up. But I also think it's wildly stupid and love that I live somewhere that is full of people who wouldn't think for a second to accept such a ridiculous social arrangement. Same goes for cfb. You're either good now and have been recently or you're not. Don't waste my tim talking to me about all-time records Michigan. IDC. Me going around and squawking about Miami back when at the same time that Pitt is thrusting its cockus in our? collective asses, again, would just be dumb. I've probably done it, but it's still dumb.

    4. Anybody who jerks off to perennial underachieving Texas is just straight pathetic.
    Jesus Christos @creepycoug you ignorant slut.

    The UK has a permanent seat (with veto power) on the UN Security Council. That's about as Blue Blood as it gets.
    Exhibit B for why "blue blood" is stupid. Sixth largest economy in the world. Bfd. Wake me up.

    Setting aside our shared history and language, they being the source of a lot of our traditions, legal and economic, we wouldn't care about them. You know it, I know it, and the American people know. Fuck, Jackie Kennedy tried to explain this to you 60 years ago boo. Take your Anglophile perversions off the board ese. It's unmanly. And un-American.
    Listen, my swarthy bro, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and The USA all have vastly higher standards of living than your Cortez the Killer cuntries. Rule Britannia.

    Maybe Argentina will unfuck themselves some day. Their geography and resources are phenomenal.
    Canada. Lolz.

    @Canadawg

    [Mike Drop]
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    RaceBannon said:

    If Petersen hadn't been such a pussy UW would be tied for second in Rose Bowl wins

    Probably good SC is leaving the conference. Nobody on this board, nor will their grandchildren, live to the day when they lose their perch. Sad, really. But I guess it explains all the respect.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,813 Founders Club
    UW lost to USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, and Illinois. Quality losses for those who rely on that. Pitt is the other loss
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    UW lost to USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, and Illinois. Quality losses for those who rely on that. Pitt is the other loss

    That was a GOOD Illinois squad!


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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited February 2023
    Arc said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Wazzu?

    Wazzu is a dynasty.




    @trublue
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW lost to USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, and Illinois. Quality losses for those who rely on that. Pitt is the other loss

    That was a GOOD Illinois squad!


    Don't forget Jim Grabowski. Packers number 1 pick
    I only know of Butkus because of post NFL celebrity...ha, ha.

    I mean I know he's one of the best LBs of all time in the way I know Jim Brown is one of the best RBs of all time.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,813 Founders Club
    The Illinois Rose Bowl is the first husky game I remember watching start to finish with the parents. I had watched parts of Rose Bowls and remember thinking how cool it was that our DAWGS were getting all that NBC free pub. It was THE game back then. I was 7

    Billy Douglass from Wapato broke his leg and it was a lost cause. I don't recall Butkus in that game quite honestly

    The Bears won the 1963 NFL title without Butkus and Sayers. Didn't win shit with them

    Go figure
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  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,748 Founders Club
    edited February 2023
    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW lost to USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, and Illinois. Quality losses for those who rely on that. Pitt is the other loss

    That was a GOOD Illinois squad!


    The truth is, Washington had the better team that day, and was in the process of kicking tenderfoot Illinois ass when our QB went out of the game with a leg injury in the
    first quarter.

    Douglas was a good option QB, and they were moving the ball with real momentum. Silas comes in and he was a loser 2nd string QB that never saw game time because
    he shouldn't have [no freaking talent], and in this game couldn't find his ass with either hand. The Dawgs kept it close anyway because they were the better team. This
    was a good Washington option team in the great tradition back in the day, and by the end of the season the defense was really stepping up at the same time as the offense
    had finally started to move the ball with authority. Just so you know, the final would have been 31-10 UW as the winner, not the final of 17-7 Illinois as it turned out.

    And, as usual, Race is right... Butkus was nothing to write home about in his stint with Washington... he was not a recognized star at the time, and no one expected him to
    be an animal later on any account.
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,284
    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me

    Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years

    Clemson had a big decade

    UW has fits of glory followed by despair

    Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year

    Its
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Bama
    tOSU
    USC

    Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.

    I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.

    I like 6.
    It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.
    The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.

    I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.

    For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.

    So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.

    #AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
    Things get misquoted around here all the Tim....ain't no big thing.

    That being said, what's a better definition of a Blue Blood than the "Iron Laws"? @creepycoug isn't a Blue Blood because he still doesn't have tradition and no dinero either.
    Miami is a boom or bust program. Would I prefer they were good all the time and had a coach that wanted to stay 25 years and beat everyone senseless? Sure. And there's enough money to make it happen. But I'd take what they've given me over flacid "consistently good but never great." I'd rather reach the peak and see the view and then descend to sea level for a while vs. spending my life at base camp. YMMV.

    Miami has been part of some of the most historically important and visible games ever, has been part of some nationally-compelling rivalries, established sea changes in the game by way of style of play, by way of program culture, has produced a shit ton of truly great name players, is closing in on Buck and Michigan for most alumni in the pro fb HOF (and will then be knocking on SC's door), has one or two of the very best teams ever to be fielded and has been as nationally relevant, love them or hate them, as any program has ever been. Every single person knows who they are and what they've been about. The program that beat one of the most dominant cfb teams ever for its first title, and won 5 and played for 2 others. I could go on, and will if you make me. This is the program that made Jimmy Johnson cry like a little girl on his way to the airport for Dallas.

    I'll take what they've given me over being a Nebraska, Texas, Michigan or ND fan any. day. of. the. week. Those of you who like the monarchy and who like to look down your noses at the newly rich may prefer otherwise. Again, IDFC. It's a Miami thing. You wouldn't understand.

    but even the stupid city of Miami couldn't take away any of the things I listed. that's all for keeps.
    In some ways,
    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me

    Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years

    Clemson had a big decade

    UW has fits of glory followed by despair

    Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year

    Its
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Bama
    tOSU
    USC

    Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.

    I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.

    I like 6.
    It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.
    The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.

    I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.

    For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.

    So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.

    #AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
    A few in-depth observations:

    1. @Auburndawg was always stupid. I liked him and thought he was funny (to look at), but also always thought he was dumb. And, yes, I do have a view of who here is smart and who is not, and there is plenty of both.

    2. Bluebloods - who really cares? It's a dumb designation/club/list/cohort/thing to discuss. It means absolutely nothing and has little to no consequence. If some team is a blue blood by virtue of piling up wins before black players were allowed or before TV was invented, then I don't care about it and I don't care that others do care about it. IJDC. It's dumb. Like @Auburndawg. Just dumb.

    3. It is invariably implicated by fans of teams that used to be good but aren't anymore, or it's used against an upstart threat to try and squash their mo ... or whatever. It's a play for permanent respeck status that said fanbase tries to make stick to the wall. Sometimes the blueblood wannabes enable this nonsense (hi Husky fans with Trojan cocks in their mouths). I reject it as anti-American. You like permanent status? Go to England where they still pay homage to hereditary title and related bullshit. When you think about, being the opposite of that is what made American great in the first place, and better than GB ever was. Who came crawling to whom when Hitler was about to go in dry? Stiff upper lip wasn't going to get it done in the long-run. American industry made that happen bitches. We're better precisely because we don't stifle ourselves with rigid social hierarchy that has real-world implications. You gotta go get it here if you want it. The Brits have been third-tier forever. Don't twist it; I love The Crown. I eat that shit up. But I also think it's wildly stupid and love that I live somewhere that is full of people who wouldn't think for a second to accept such a ridiculous social arrangement. Same goes for cfb. You're either good now and have been recently or you're not. Don't waste my tim talking to me about all-time records Michigan. IDC. Me going around and squawking about Miami back when at the same time that Pitt is thrusting its cockus in our? collective asses, again, would just be dumb. I've probably done it, but it's still dumb.

    4. Anybody who jerks off to perennial underachieving Texas is just straight pathetic.
    Jesus Christos @creepycoug you ignorant slut.

    The UK has a permanent seat (with veto power) on the UN Security Council. That's about as Blue Blood as it gets.
    Exhibit B for why "blue blood" is stupid. Sixth largest economy in the world. Bfd. Wake me up.

    Setting aside our shared history and language, they being the source of a lot of our traditions, legal and economic, we wouldn't care about them. You know it, I know it, and the American people know. Fuck, Jackie Kennedy tried to explain this to you 60 years ago boo. Take your Anglophile perversions off the board ese. It's unmanly. And un-American.
    Listen, my swarthy bro, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and The USA all have vastly higher standards of living than your Cortez the Killer cuntries. Rule Britannia.

    Maybe Argentina will unfuck themselves some day. Their geography and resources are phenomenal.
    Canada. Lolz.

    @Canadawg

    [Mike Drop]
    Pretty nice here but we have no natties
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  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,748 Founders Club
    edited February 2023
    Just to reiterate ~ we had Junior Coffey, Dave Kopay, Ron Medved and Charley Browning at RB [all of which went to the pros], the little guy Steve Bramwell that set the record for runbacks, as well as Jake Kupp, Rick Redmond and Jim Lambright ~ a lot of freaking talent for a team in those days. And, correction, it wasn't Butkus [Illinois Captain] that was a no count at UW, it was Ben Davidson [1959, then an all pro later with the Raiders] that surprised us all with a good pro career after not doing much at UW.
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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,258 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    Arc said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Wazzu?

    Wazzu is a dynasty.




    @trublue
    Unfortunately after working 25+ years in law enforcement some shit is creepy and not funny in any context
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    edited February 2023
    RaceBannon said:

    The Illinois Rose Bowl is the first husky game I remember watching start to finish with the parents. I had watched parts of Rose Bowls and remember thinking how cool it was that our DAWGS were getting all that NBC free pub. It was THE game back then. I was 7

    Billy Douglass from Wapato broke his leg and it was a lost cause. I don't recall Butkus in that game quite honestly

    The Bears won the 1963 NFL title without Butkus and Sayers. Didn't win shit with them

    Go figure

    I see highlights of Butkus and think, "there's a guy who couldn't crack a roster at his position today." I see highlights of Sayers and I don't think that. Part of the reason for the latter is that Sayers ran track and has been clocked at 9.6 in the 100 yard dash (roughly a 10.5 100 meters ... 2/10ths slower than Roc Alexander, so pretty fast) and long jumped just under 25 feet (all great long jumpers are fast). Track is objective and can't fool the eye. The times and distances are what they are. Sayers could have played today.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,813 Founders Club
    Sayers is in the hall of fame for 3 seasons

    If you were there you'd agree

    Yes he could play today. And they probably could fix his knee
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    RaceBannon said:

    UW lost to USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, and Illinois. Quality losses for those who rely on that. Pitt is the other loss

    Growing up, I thought the Big 10 existed just to send a big slow team to Pasadena once a year so that the Pac 10 had someone to beat and so their fat and pasty fans could have some semblance of a life for a few days enjoying Southern Cal in the winter.

    Bo Schembechler is Michigan's all-time winningest coach whose specialty was losing the Rose Bowl. 2-8. JFC. When that is what you see while your brain in still trying to form in Aberdeen, it's hard to take those guys seriously. Ohio State felt a little different and the rest of the Big 10 sucked. Penn State was good when I was growing up but weren't part of it. I remember everyone and their boners about Chuck Long and Iowa. Pfft. I called that one. At least they're 2-1 having beaten Beav and Cal before electricity was common in rural southern households.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW lost to USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, and Illinois. Quality losses for those who rely on that. Pitt is the other loss

    That was a GOOD Illinois squad!


    Don't forget Jim Grabowski. Packers number 1 pick
    How could I forget?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    dflea said:

    My old man was at med school at UI when Butkus and Grabowski were playing there.

    Don't get him started, or you'll never hear the end of it.

    When Slick Rick and the Bruins took UI behind the woodshed at the 84 Rose Bowl, I left the house because I was sure he was going to flip out and I wasn't going to be within an arm's reach. Man, he was mad. lol

    God bless Richard Gerald Neuiheisel, Jr.

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  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,627
    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW lost to USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, and Illinois. Quality losses for those who rely on that. Pitt is the other loss

    Growing up, I thought the Big 10 existed just to send a big slow team to Pasadena once a year so that the Pac 10 had someone to beat and so their fat and pasty fans could have some semblance of a life for a few days enjoying Southern Cal in the winter.

    Bo Schembechler is Michigan's all-time winningest coach whose specialty was losing the Rose Bowl. 2-8. JFC. When that is what you see while your brain in still trying to form in Aberdeen, it's hard to take those guys seriously. Ohio State felt a little different and the rest of the Big 10 sucked. Penn State was good when I was growing up but weren't part of it. I remember everyone and their boners about Chuck Long and Iowa. Pfft. I called that one. At least they're 2-1 having beaten Beav and Cal before electricity was common in rural southern households.
    Bo beat James for one of them

    From WW2 to 1959 the Big Ten owned the Rose Bowl. Jim Owens changed that then John McKay showed up. Woody was able to beat him with Archie Griffin

    But yes the Pac owned the real Rose Bowl. Ucla beat the famous Michigan State team that tied Notre Dame
    Heisman Trophy winner Gary Beban, UCLA's only one...
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    edited February 2023
    Back to the original topic, I guess national brand depends on who you ask. Here are the (limited) collegiate choices on Vineyard Vines. No Cane, no Duck, no DWAG! no Trooj, no respeck!




    #bostoncollege?

    #fuckthoseguys
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    HillsboroDuck said:

    In all seriousness I think they’re in the next tier. Only 2 NCs is the big disqualifier though they have a couple other worthy seasons. Only one Heisman winner. They’re just on the outside looking in IMO. And that’s before any sort of asterisk for harboring a pedophile for decades.

    And one of those was gifted to them by a greasy WOP.
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