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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    My answer







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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,289
    Build the Arizona Coyotes a rink
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    You'd think for 100 bill, you'd get at least a hand job.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,662 Founders Club
    Severance packages for most federal employees.
  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,600 Swaye's Wigwam
    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    We are not Europe- we don't have an infrastructure set up to sustain what happens on either end of HSR. You take the Chunnel from London to Paris and in either city you take the tube/metro to your next stop. In the US most cities aren't set up to support that. When we have money to burn in Atlanta we start talking about expanding MARTA to suburbs. Great idea until you realize that all stops in town are to the Stadium/Courthouse/Georgia Tech. It's not realistic to ask someone to walk six blocks in the Atlanta summers to go from the MARTA stop to their office.

    Never once have I heard a politician talk about incenting business to move closer to the MARTA lines. There's no grift in it for them.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    More IRS agents!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    We are not Europe- we don't have an infrastructure set up to sustain what happens on either end of HSR. You take the Chunnel from London to Paris and in either city you take the tube/metro to your next stop. In the US most cities aren't set up to support that. When we have money to burn in Atlanta we start talking about expanding MARTA to suburbs. Great idea until you realize that all stops in town are to the Stadium/Courthouse/Georgia Tech. It's not realistic to ask someone to walk six blocks in the Atlanta summers to go from the MARTA stop to their office.

    Never once have I heard a politician talk about incenting business to move closer to the MARTA lines. There's no grift in it for them.
    In America if it didn't get built in the late 1800s in major cities where there was little or no regulation it's too late

    The shit that has been built late 20th century is like you describe. Feel good toys for the well to do to keep riff raff out o their way on the freeways

    Saw a bit of Bill Mahar bemoaning how much red tape there is to build rail these days. No shit Bill - you don't want it by you either

    Beverly Hills is suing to stop a line from going UNDER Beverley Hills. I like their lawyers in this one

    The car is the modern horse. Freedom. Can't have that
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,561 Standard Supporter

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    We are not Europe- we don't have an infrastructure set up to sustain what happens on either end of HSR. You take the Chunnel from London to Paris and in either city you take the tube/metro to your next stop. In the US most cities aren't set up to support that. When we have money to burn in Atlanta we start talking about expanding MARTA to suburbs. Great idea until you realize that all stops in town are to the Stadium/Courthouse/Georgia Tech. It's not realistic to ask someone to walk six blocks in the Atlanta summers to go from the MARTA stop to their office.

    Never once have I heard a politician talk about incenting business to move closer to the MARTA lines. There's no grift in it for them.
    In America if it didn't get built in the late 1800s in major cities where there was little or no regulation it's too late

    The shit that has been built late 20th century is like you describe. Feel good toys for the well to do to keep riff raff out o their way on the freeways

    Saw a bit of Bill Mahar bemoaning how much red tape there is to build rail these days. No shit Bill - you don't want it by you either

    Beverly Hills is suing to stop a line from going UNDER Beverley Hills. I like their lawyers in this one

    The car is the modern horse. Freedom. Can't have that
    They built light rail from Portland out to the big Clackamas mall and it just provided a nice line for the rats to ride out for some five finger discounts. Shop lifting and car theft exploded. Fare enforcement is non-existent along with security for passengers. Public transit is just a grift for public unions and politically connected construction companies. Giuliani cleaned up the New York City subway system. But the green commies think that public safety is not a priority but still are trying to take away our cars. Freedom of movement is dangerous to a fascist.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    We are not Europe- we don't have an infrastructure set up to sustain what happens on either end of HSR. You take the Chunnel from London to Paris and in either city you take the tube/metro to your next stop. In the US most cities aren't set up to support that. When we have money to burn in Atlanta we start talking about expanding MARTA to suburbs. Great idea until you realize that all stops in town are to the Stadium/Courthouse/Georgia Tech. It's not realistic to ask someone to walk six blocks in the Atlanta summers to go from the MARTA stop to their office.

    Never once have I heard a politician talk about incenting business to move closer to the MARTA lines. There's no grift in it for them.
    In America if it didn't get built in the late 1800s in major cities where there was little or no regulation it's too late

    The shit that has been built late 20th century is like you describe. Feel good toys for the well to do to keep riff raff out o their way on the freeways

    Saw a bit of Bill Mahar bemoaning how much red tape there is to build rail these days. No shit Bill - you don't want it by you either

    Beverly Hills is suing to stop a line from going UNDER Beverley Hills. I like their lawyers in this one

    The car is the modern horse. Freedom. Can't have that
    They built light rail from Portland out to the big Clackamas mall and it just provided a nice line for the rats to ride out for some five finger discounts. Shop lifting and car theft exploded. Fare enforcement is non-existent along with security for passengers. Public transit is just a grift for public unions and politically connected construction companies. Giuliani cleaned up the New York City subway system. But the green commies think that public safety is not a priority but still are trying to take away our cars. Freedom of movement is dangerous to a fascist.
    Many public transit lines have stopped going after fare evaders for the usual reasons. You were ticketing too many people with the wrong paint job.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,561 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

    Making the same progress as the "new" I-5 bridge and expanding I-5 through north Portland. I'm seeing a pattern.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    We are not Europe- we don't have an infrastructure set up to sustain what happens on either end of HSR. You take the Chunnel from London to Paris and in either city you take the tube/metro to your next stop. In the US most cities aren't set up to support that. When we have money to burn in Atlanta we start talking about expanding MARTA to suburbs. Great idea until you realize that all stops in town are to the Stadium/Courthouse/Georgia Tech. It's not realistic to ask someone to walk six blocks in the Atlanta summers to go from the MARTA stop to their office.

    Never once have I heard a politician talk about incenting business to move closer to the MARTA lines. There's no grift in it for them.
    In America if it didn't get built in the late 1800s in major cities where there was little or no regulation it's too late

    The shit that has been built late 20th century is like you describe. Feel good toys for the well to do to keep riff raff out o their way on the freeways

    Saw a bit of Bill Mahar bemoaning how much red tape there is to build rail these days. No shit Bill - you don't want it by you either

    Beverly Hills is suing to stop a line from going UNDER Beverley Hills. I like their lawyers in this one

    The car is the modern horse. Freedom. Can't have that
    BART got built in the late 60s early 70s and before they started allowing "equity" to rule on the trains was actually a fairly safe and clean public transit system. No more.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,561 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    We are not Europe- we don't have an infrastructure set up to sustain what happens on either end of HSR. You take the Chunnel from London to Paris and in either city you take the tube/metro to your next stop. In the US most cities aren't set up to support that. When we have money to burn in Atlanta we start talking about expanding MARTA to suburbs. Great idea until you realize that all stops in town are to the Stadium/Courthouse/Georgia Tech. It's not realistic to ask someone to walk six blocks in the Atlanta summers to go from the MARTA stop to their office.

    Never once have I heard a politician talk about incenting business to move closer to the MARTA lines. There's no grift in it for them.
    In America if it didn't get built in the late 1800s in major cities where there was little or no regulation it's too late

    The shit that has been built late 20th century is like you describe. Feel good toys for the well to do to keep riff raff out o their way on the freeways

    Saw a bit of Bill Mahar bemoaning how much red tape there is to build rail these days. No shit Bill - you don't want it by you either

    Beverly Hills is suing to stop a line from going UNDER Beverley Hills. I like their lawyers in this one

    The car is the modern horse. Freedom. Can't have that
    BART got built in the late 60s early 70s and before they started allowing "equity" to rule on the trains was actually a fairly safe and clean public transit system. No more.
    When the official response to crime on the public transit system is to stop publishing pictures and race of the perps you get a lot more crime.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

    Making the same progress as the "new" I-5 bridge and expanding I-5 through north Portland. I'm seeing a pattern.
    In all honesty I'm shocked they still haven't put down a mile of track. I know they've built some of elevated structures to support some of the track because I've seen them the past few times out was out in the Valley. That's got to be the greatest make work job ever created. Seriously this is like African kleptocracy level corruption. Nothing ever gets built and all the money is stolen.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

    Imagine if they spent the money on reservoirs to collect all that rain that just washed away.
    My pet project
  • El_K
    El_K Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,488 Swaye's Wigwam
    Not two, but three chicks at the same time.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Doogles said:

    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

    Imagine if they spent the money on reservoirs to collect all that rain that just washed away.
    Naaah, what good would that do? Better to "invest" in on high speed rail and healthcare for illegals.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,561 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Doogles said:

    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

    Imagine if they spent the money on reservoirs to collect all that rain that just washed away.
    Naaah, what good would that do? Better to "invest" in on high speed rail and healthcare for illegals.
    Could build a reservoir and then build a big culvert and run water through a turbine generator and make electricity. Not sure if anyone else ever thought about using gravity and water as a renewable energy source.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam
    California is going to redirect the money to reparations.

    Spend the 100 billion on a real war not some fake war - similar to Grenada - won and they haven't caused any problem since. has to be another major enemy we can conquer -
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,066 Founders Club
    Burn it to reduce the money supply and curb inflation.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,066 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

    Making the same progress as the "new" I-5 bridge and expanding I-5 through north Portland. I'm seeing a pattern.
    In all honesty I'm shocked they still haven't put down a mile of track. I know they've built some of elevated structures to support some of the track because I've seen them the past few times out was out in the Valley. That's got to be the greatest make work job ever created. Seriously this is like African kleptocracy level corruption. Nothing ever gets built and all the money is stolen.
    I used to say this about California a decade ago, the corruption is as bad or worse than 3rd world and people would laugh at me.

    Now they play the ostrich boy game instead.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

    Making the same progress as the "new" I-5 bridge and expanding I-5 through north Portland. I'm seeing a pattern.
    In all honesty I'm shocked they still haven't put down a mile of track. I know they've built some of elevated structures to support some of the track because I've seen them the past few times out was out in the Valley. That's got to be the greatest make work job ever created. Seriously this is like African kleptocracy level corruption. Nothing ever gets built and all the money is stolen.
    I used to say this about California a decade ago, the corruption is as bad or worse than 3rd world and people would laugh at me.

    Now they play the ostrich boy game instead.
    It's gotten so much worse here in the last 10 years.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    High speed rail... since we are talking about throwing money away. Once built it would st least be useful

    California is close to 100 billion now and has no track laid
    I actually thought they had put some rail line down out around Merced and was going to post some wise ass crack about travelling from beautiful Tulare to Modesto but I went and looked in order to confirm before running my mouth, you're right, they still haven't put down even a single mile of track. Unfucking believable.

    Making the same progress as the "new" I-5 bridge and expanding I-5 through north Portland. I'm seeing a pattern.
    In all honesty I'm shocked they still haven't put down a mile of track. I know they've built some of elevated structures to support some of the track because I've seen them the past few times out was out in the Valley. That's got to be the greatest make work job ever created. Seriously this is like African kleptocracy level corruption. Nothing ever gets built and all the money is stolen.
    I used to say this about California a decade ago, the corruption is as bad or worse than 3rd world and people would laugh at me.

    Now they play the ostrich boy game instead.
    It's gotten so much worse here in the last 10 years.
    I'm really not a greedy person, plus since I've lived here my entire adult life I'm sorta ignorant to how much I'm getting screwed in taxes/fees.

    But there needs to be something to show for it. The homeless shit is insane. The grid is perma-fucked. Dams are crumbling. Forests aren't maintained and then we cry climate change when half the state burns down. A water crisis that could have been solved with a pinch of funding from the bullet train to Bakersfield.

    The money seems to just disappear and everything gets shittier.

    It's still home, but damn it's tempting to get out.
    Miami welcomes you.