Mariners baby, hot stove edition
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I think they are going to go all in for Ohtani next year, and if they miss, Dip should be sweating...It will blow this year's FA signings out of the water...$60mm-plus per year.
My take has always been "You've got to be in it to win it"...they were in it (playoffs) this year, and came up short. The pitching is what got them there, and that hasn't changed. He can get a bat at the deadline (or before) if he needs it.
He is probably on the phone with the Pirates every day re: Reynolds
Everyone (me included) doubted that the bullpen could repeat 2021, and yet they did. I don't know what they do with these guys, but it appears to work.
ATBS, I am an eternal optimist in December, because we are undefeated in 2023...
EDIT: For me, they have improved the lineup with Teoscar and Wong, made it deeper, and that will pay dividends. Also, I wouldn't sleep on Dip making a play for Tatis JR... -
RIP Tom Browning. I enjoyed those Reds teams.Fishpo31 said:I think they are going to go all in for Ohtani next year, and if they miss, Dip should be sweating...It will blow this year's FA signings out of the water...$60mm-plus per year.
My take has always been "You've got to be in it to win it"...they were in it (playoffs) this year, and came up short. The pitching is what got them there, and that hasn't changed. He can get a bat at the deadline (or before) if he needs it.
He is probably on the phone with the Pirates every day re: Reynolds
Everyone (me included) doubted that the bullpen could repeat 2021, and yet they did. I don't know what they do with these guys, but it appears to work.
ATBS, I am an eternal optimist in December, because we are undefeated in 2023...
EDIT: For me, they have improved the lineup with Teoscar and Wong, made it deeper, and that will pay dividends. Also, I wouldn't sleep on Dip making a play for Tatis JR...
As for the M's, they could be waiting for the Pirates prospect asking price comes down and there's a lesser chance they are waiting for Pollock to come down to $1 year, $9 million or so. That would be a reasonable hedge for Kelenic / Trammell / Moore but if I had to guess, they will roll with those guys and look to make a deadline deal for a player like Pollock if those 3 guys can't get it going again. -
Had not seen this until yesterday...RIP
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Take this to the Tug Maximum Carnage Week Game Thread.Fishpo31 said:Had not seen this until yesterday...RIP
https://youtu.be/WKtvcDEr3S8
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lol, so basically the Mariners owner won't give the GM more money to get the pieces they would need to get past the Astros/Yankees. Now that they locked up the one star player that will sell jerseys there's no need to spend more 😆
This franchise is never getting to a World Series without a Tampa like run. -
It's rough being a Moog. You won't get any arguments here. Part of the strategy is sound. There's a good core already that has shown it can match up well with Houston, better than pretty much anyone else in MLB. It's just not enough. I thought a couple more FA signings to buy 30 or so more homers would do it. They ignored me and would prefer to wait in Reynolds and dump more prospects to get him because he fits their model.haie said:lol, so basically the Mariners owner won't give the GM more money to get the pieces they would need to get past the Astros/Yankees. Now that they locked up the one star player that will sell jerseys there's no need to spend more 😆
This franchise is never getting to a World Series without a Tampa like run.
They are all in on building this team by paying and keeping the guys they developed and/or acquired by trade. They're holding back on payroll so they can pay and keep guys like Raleigh, Gilbert and Kirby. I also expect that if he hits in year one, Teoscar will be offered an extension. The payroll is going to shoot up close to $200 million or so over the next couple of years. -
It's tough to know if they are waiting for the asking price to (potentially) come down for Bryan Reynolds or Ian Happ. Same for a RH bat like AJ Pollock (who may want a 2 year deal but may not get one).chuck said:
It's rough being a Moog. You won't get any arguments here. Part of the strategy is sound. There's a good core already that has shown it can match up well with Houston, better than pretty much anyone else in MLB. It's just not enough. I thought a couple more FA signings to buy 30 or so more homers would do it. They ignored me and would prefer to wait in Reynolds and dump more prospects to get him because he fits their model.haie said:lol, so basically the Mariners owner won't give the GM more money to get the pieces they would need to get past the Astros/Yankees. Now that they locked up the one star player that will sell jerseys there's no need to spend more 😆
This franchise is never getting to a World Series without a Tampa like run.
They are all in on building this team by paying and keeping the guys they developed and/or acquired by trade. They're holding back on payroll so they can pay and keep guys like Raleigh, Gilbert and Kirby. I also expect that if he hits in year one, Teoscar will be offered an extension. The payroll is going to shoot up close to $200 million or so over the next couple of years.
There's also a chance they feel good about rolling with Trammell (LH) / Kelenic (LH) / Dylan Moore (RH) / Haggerty (RH) and then, if they can't collectively get the job done by the deadline, will trade for a rental bat who is a FA after 2023 so as to limit their financial exposure beyond the season.
It's also tough to know how they value Harry Ford and Emerson Hancock internally. Maybe they think Ford has too much swing and miss in his profile so they are willing to deal him.
I just hope they don't roll with what they have right now because an impact or semi-impact RH bat in LF is needed. -
I'm fine with keeping Kelenic for one more try but they need to hedge their bets by finding him a reliable platoon partner.HFNY said:
It's tough to know if they are waiting for the asking price to (potentially) come down for Bryan Reynolds or Ian Happ. Same for a RH bat like AJ Pollock (who may want a 2 year deal but may not get one).chuck said:
It's rough being a Moog. You won't get any arguments here. Part of the strategy is sound. There's a good core already that has shown it can match up well with Houston, better than pretty much anyone else in MLB. It's just not enough. I thought a couple more FA signings to buy 30 or so more homers would do it. They ignored me and would prefer to wait in Reynolds and dump more prospects to get him because he fits their model.haie said:lol, so basically the Mariners owner won't give the GM more money to get the pieces they would need to get past the Astros/Yankees. Now that they locked up the one star player that will sell jerseys there's no need to spend more 😆
This franchise is never getting to a World Series without a Tampa like run.
They are all in on building this team by paying and keeping the guys they developed and/or acquired by trade. They're holding back on payroll so they can pay and keep guys like Raleigh, Gilbert and Kirby. I also expect that if he hits in year one, Teoscar will be offered an extension. The payroll is going to shoot up close to $200 million or so over the next couple of years.
There's also a chance they feel good about rolling with Trammell (LH) / Kelenic (LH) / Dylan Moore (RH) / Haggerty (RH) and then, if they can't collectively get the job done by the deadline, will trade for a rental bat who is a FA after 2023 so as to limit their financial exposure beyond the season.
It's also tough to know how they value Harry Ford and Emerson Hancock internally. Maybe they think Ford has too much swing and miss in his profile so they are willing to deal him.
I just hope they don't roll with what they have right now because an impact or semi-impact RH bat in LF is needed.
I'm not fine with anyone pretending Trammel could still live up to his prospect status. He is too big and losing his athleticism because of it, and it's obvious he's never going to hit consistently.
I'm also ok with them trading both. I actually prefer it. -
Well I think @HFNY first mentioned the idea. Ms are signing Pollock for one year, $7mil.
They still need a guy that can play around the infield, or at least 3rd and 1st. I read and heard a few interesting names today, both trade targets and sneaky few agents. If they add one more bat with upside who can do that and DH a bit I'll feel pretty solid.
I also like the reliever they picked up. 98mph sinker and frisbee slider. -
Thanks and does @DipotoDawg must still lurk here.chuck said:Well I think @HFNY first mentioned the idea. Ms are signing Pollock for one year, $7mil.
They still need a guy that can play around the infield, or at least 3rd and 1st. I read and heard a few interesting names today, both trade targets and sneaky few agents. If they add one more bat with upside who can do that and DH a bit I'll feel pretty solid.
I also like the reliever they picked up. 98mph sinker and frisbee slider.
