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When should Peterman hand the reins over to Jimmy Lake?

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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    StrongArmCobra said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    creepycoug said:

    Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?

    I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.

    Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.
    Good points but good luck with the Lake scenario. Lake ain't Pete...far from
    He's better than Petersen. Petersen was a whizz kid as an OC and yet as a head coach, his offenses have mostly sucked post-Kellen Moore. Lake is a superstar DC who's defenses as a head coach would continue to dominate here. Lake is also a better recruiter than Petersen. Petersen's strengths are his focus on fundamentals, decision making when hiring assistant coaches, being a good guy to work for which promotes staff continuity and loyalty, and he's good at evaluating talent and decent at recruiting. Lake could do all of that but take recruiting to a higher level. If Jimmy was head coach, we might have guys like Drake Jackson, Stephon Wright, Joe Ngata, and Jeremiah Martin on the roster. Imagine Jimmy's recruiting ability spread out across all positions instead of just DB's. It's a tantalizing thought.
    So Pete's eras of excellence also match the core competencies of a modern college football corch. Chintriguing. I'll be watching these developments closely.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    StrongArmCobra said:

    creepycoug said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    creepycoug said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    creepycoug said:

    Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?

    I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.

    Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.
    The stats are abysmal. There have more elite OCs and DCs who hit their heads against the Peter Principle than you can shake a stick at.

    The truth is, for the vast majority of people, there is a point too high in their profession.
    Yeah well, most assistants that become head coaches aren't nearly as good as Jimmy Lake. Plus, every great head coach was once an assistant. Worry about your own assistant coach who's a shit head coach in Cristobal.
    [laughing hysterically.gif]

    This response is you in a nutshell. You can never concede an inch of ground no matter what it is or how obvious.

    It makes you look like you just started following the game 4 years ago.

    The comment had nothing to do with Oregon but of course they live in your head.

    Yes all great HCs were assistants at some point. That's well within the "no shit" category of responses.

    But many of the great ones were good HCs somewhere before they got to the show.

    Don't be so defensive ballz. It's a bad look. Again the stats are abysmal and many legendary assistants who were just as well respected as your man crush DB guru flamed out miserably doing the head gig. It is a much different job.
    All great coaches were once assistants.
    Um, I think I addressed that point. Awfully early to be going full retard Corky.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    HillsboroDuck said:

    Jimmy Lake has been a defensive coordinator for one year.

    I fucking love the dude but let's see him actually build a defense or deal with roster turnover from his predecessor before we anoint him the next HC.

    All great coaches were coordinators for one year at one point in their careers!!!!!!!
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    HillsboroDuck said:

    Jimmy Lake has been a defensive coordinator for one year.

    I fucking love the dude but let's see him actually build a defense or deal with roster turnover from his predecessor before we anoint him the next HC.

    Disagree
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  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    HillsboroDuck said:

    Jimmy Lake has been a defensive coordinator for one year.

    I fucking love the dude but let's see him actually build a defense or deal with roster turnover from his predecessor before we anoint him the next HC.

    Hey, a duck has made a few really good posts here lately. Best I've seen from anyone...except pup of course. I'd like to get him in the HDB.
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  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    edited May 2019
    creepycoug said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Jimmy Lake has been a defensive coordinator for one year.

    I fucking love the dude but let's see him actually build a defense or deal with roster turnover from his predecessor before we anoint him the next HC.

    All great coaches were coordinators for one year at one point in their careers!!!!!!!
    creep you're a brilliant one..a surgeon was a resident for 1 year at 'one point in their career'. When do you turn 19?
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    creepycoug said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Jimmy Lake has been a defensive coordinator for one year.

    I fucking love the dude but let's see him actually build a defense or deal with roster turnover from his predecessor before we anoint him the next HC.

    All great coaches were coordinators for one year at one point in their careers!!!!!!!
    creep you're a brilliant one..a surgeon was a resident for 1 year at 'one point in their career'. When do you turn 19?
    demonstrating the dangers of jumping into a thread late and popping off.

    pumpy is pumpy.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    Oregon will win the conference potd

    Pup is so fucking retarded it almost hurts

    Make a prediction then. It's how this works. But you wont. Who do you like? I wont expect a response. You never do lofl
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Jimmy Lake has been a defensive coordinator for one year.

    I fucking love the dude but let's see him actually build a defense or deal with roster turnover from his predecessor before we anoint him the next HC.

    Hey, a duck has made a few really good posts here lately. Best I've seen from anyone...except pup of course. I'd like to get him in the HDB.
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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    da fuq Stalin?
    dnc said:

    Baseman said:


    Turning to the D cordinator worked well in the past.

    Turned out this comp was unfair to Lambo
    Has Jimmy Lake beat his husband yet?
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2022
    2021
    Derek with the woosh on PUP. But had the heart to explain to him. Slowly.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    I wasn't in this thread but I was a big Jimmy guy. Thought he'd be a shit talking big balls Petersen without the stick up his ass

    He is yet another exhibit in "it's the head coach"

    Petersen was good enough to get the best out of guys that needed him more than he needed them

    I think Kwat has done less with more at Texas but look at his head coach. Others may not agree

    Huff remains a riddle wrapped inside an enigma. Didn't do great under Pete. Did horrible under Lake. Resurrected under DeBoer

    DeBoer > Petersen?

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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,700 Founders Club
    Before anything else, just make Dabo say no
    dnc said:

    Ballz said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    Oregon will win the conference potd

    Pup is so fucking retarded it almost hurts

    Oregon won't be able to complete a pass against UW and will be shutout 42-0.
    This guy was not dialed in.







    Blackeye for @haie and @backthepack chinning/upvoting this too.
    Technically Oregon didn't complete many passes against UW that year.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    RaceBannon said:

    I wasn't in this thread but I was a big Jimmy guy. Thought he'd be a shit talking big balls Petersen without the stick up his ass

    He is yet another exhibit in "it's the head coach"

    Huff remains a riddle wrapped inside an enigma. Didn't do great under Pete. Did horrible under Lake. Resurrected under DeBoer

    DeBoer > Petersen?

    I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. HNMT to get his Mtn west recruits in before it's certain though.

    There's nothing that mysterious about Huff imo. Pete made him look like a good recruiter. A veteran, talented OL room plus the other off-season changes made him look go (bookend NFL tackles are a pretty nice thing) on the field this season.

    I never bought that he was horrible. It's just obvious that he's not great and is easily replaceable
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    Ballz said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    creepycoug said:

    Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?

    I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.

    Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.
    Good points but good luck with the Lake scenario. Lake ain't Pete...far from
    He's better than Petersen. Petersen was a whizz kid as an OC and yet as a head coach, his offenses have mostly sucked post-Kellen Moore. Lake is a superstar DC who's defenses as a head coach would continue to dominate here. Lake is also a better recruiter than Petersen. Petersen's strengths are his focus on fundamentals, decision making when hiring assistant coaches, being a good guy to work for which promotes staff continuity and loyalty, and he's good at evaluating talent and decent at recruiting. Lake could do all of that but take recruiting to a higher level. If Jimmy was head coach, we might have guys like Drake Jackson, Stephon Wright, Joe Ngata, and Jeremiah Martin on the roster. Imagine Jimmy's recruiting ability spread out across all positions instead of just DB's. It's a tantalizing thought.

    A hearty chortle, every single tim.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    chuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I wasn't in this thread but I was a big Jimmy guy. Thought he'd be a shit talking big balls Petersen without the stick up his ass

    He is yet another exhibit in "it's the head coach"

    Huff remains a riddle wrapped inside an enigma. Didn't do great under Pete. Did horrible under Lake. Resurrected under DeBoer

    DeBoer > Petersen?

    I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. HNMT to get his Mtn west recruits in before it's certain though.

    There's nothing that mysterious about Huff imo. Pete made him look like a good recruiter. A veteran, talented OL room plus the other off-season changes made him look go (bookend NFL tackles are a pretty nice thing) on the field this season.

    I never bought that he was horrible. It's just obvious that he's not great and is easily replaceable
    This is the land of anything other than great means he sucks. No doubt I have posted many times that Huff sucks but that's not really the case as you point out.


    There have been games where the O line sucked. Too many of them. It was nice not to have those this year. The worst O line performances were covered up by wins which is nice.

    I'm an O line fanatic who hates field goals in the red zone and getting stuffed on short yardage. But again if they win NOGAF

    Watching Michigan and Oregon State eviscerate their rival in the 2nd half with the run is my kind of football

    Edit to add that watching Penix eviscerate Oregon and WSU in the air was pretty awesome too
    Somewhere in mid season, I'm pretty sure I wrote "Penix sucks, but he's the best we've got," or something similar. Or worse.

    Maybe during the ASU debacle when I was drunk and on pain pills. But still.

    The whole damn team improved at almost every position during the season and we saw coaches who, for the first time in a long time, didn't seem interested in keeping up appearances, but just coached.

    Apparently there's something in the air in South Dakota, that's not in Boise or Cheney.

    I seriously hope DeBoer doesn't give a shit about fitting into the Seattle community, whether commuting by boat or carrying a chai soy latte into the locker room.

    Fuck it. I hope he buys his coffee at 7-11 and drives a pickup truck to work. That's the coach I want at UW.
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  • FireTheJanitor
    FireTheJanitor Member Posts: 1,483
    TurdBomber said:

    RaceBannon said:

    chuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I wasn't in this thread but I was a big Jimmy guy. Thought he'd be a shit talking big balls Petersen without the stick up his ass

    He is yet another exhibit in "it's the head coach"

    Huff remains a riddle wrapped inside an enigma. Didn't do great under Pete. Did horrible under Lake. Resurrected under DeBoer

    DeBoer > Petersen?

    I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. HNMT to get his Mtn west recruits in before it's certain though.

    There's nothing that mysterious about Huff imo. Pete made him look like a good recruiter. A veteran, talented OL room plus the other off-season changes made him look go (bookend NFL tackles are a pretty nice thing) on the field this season.

    I never bought that he was horrible. It's just obvious that he's not great and is easily replaceable
    This is the land of anything other than great means he sucks. No doubt I have posted many times that Huff sucks but that's not really the case as you point out.


    There have been games where the O line sucked. Too many of them. It was nice not to have those this year. The worst O line performances were covered up by wins which is nice.

    I'm an O line fanatic who hates field goals in the red zone and getting stuffed on short yardage. But again if they win NOGAF

    Watching Michigan and Oregon State eviscerate their rival in the 2nd half with the run is my kind of football

    Edit to add that watching Penix eviscerate Oregon and WSU in the air was pretty awesome too
    Somewhere in mid season, I'm pretty sure I wrote "Penix sucks, but he's the best we've got," or something similar. Or worse.

    Maybe during the ASU debacle when I was drunk and on pain pills. But still.

    The whole damn team improved at almost every position during the season and we saw coaches who, for the first time in a long time, didn't seem interested in keeping up appearances, but just coached.

    Apparently there's something in the air in South Dakota, that's not in Boise or Cheney.

    I seriously hope DeBoer doesn't give a shit about fitting into the Seattle community, whether commuting by boat or carrying a chai soy latte into the locker room.

    Fuck it. I hope he buys his coffee at 7-11 and drives a pickup truck to work. That's the coach I want at UW.
    https://preview.redd.it/xwkix6c1fyi41.jpg?auto=webp&s=5ef99e8ff920521da9a5c8c5cc5438f341279c9d

    Saw KDB pull in today when I was dropping off roses for the janitors
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    FireTheJanitor said:

    TurdBomber said:

    RaceBannon said:

    chuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I wasn't in this thread but I was a big Jimmy guy. Thought he'd be a shit talking big balls Petersen without the stick up his ass

    He is yet another exhibit in "it's the head coach"

    Huff remains a riddle wrapped inside an enigma. Didn't do great under Pete. Did horrible under Lake. Resurrected under DeBoer

    DeBoer > Petersen?

    I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. HNMT to get his Mtn west recruits in before it's certain though.

    There's nothing that mysterious about Huff imo. Pete made him look like a good recruiter. A veteran, talented OL room plus the other off-season changes made him look go (bookend NFL tackles are a pretty nice thing) on the field this season.

    I never bought that he was horrible. It's just obvious that he's not great and is easily replaceable
    This is the land of anything other than great means he sucks. No doubt I have posted many times that Huff sucks but that's not really the case as you point out.


    There have been games where the O line sucked. Too many of them. It was nice not to have those this year. The worst O line performances were covered up by wins which is nice.

    I'm an O line fanatic who hates field goals in the red zone and getting stuffed on short yardage. But again if they win NOGAF

    Watching Michigan and Oregon State eviscerate their rival in the 2nd half with the run is my kind of football

    Edit to add that watching Penix eviscerate Oregon and WSU in the air was pretty awesome too
    Somewhere in mid season, I'm pretty sure I wrote "Penix sucks, but he's the best we've got," or something similar. Or worse.

    Maybe during the ASU debacle when I was drunk and on pain pills. But still.

    The whole damn team improved at almost every position during the season and we saw coaches who, for the first time in a long time, didn't seem interested in keeping up appearances, but just coached.

    Apparently there's something in the air in South Dakota, that's not in Boise or Cheney.

    I seriously hope DeBoer doesn't give a shit about fitting into the Seattle community, whether commuting by boat or carrying a chai soy latte into the locker room.

    Fuck it. I hope he buys his coffee at 7-11 and drives a pickup truck to work. That's the coach I want at UW.
    https://preview.redd.it/xwkix6c1fyi41.jpg?auto=webp&s=5ef99e8ff920521da9a5c8c5cc5438f341279c9d

    Saw KDB pull in today when I was dropping off roses for the janitors
    Fuckin'-A-Dawg!
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,194
    da fuq Stalin?
    backthepack said:


    I forgot about making this meme. Time flies
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