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When should Peterman hand the reins over to Jimmy Lake?
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Good points but good luck with the Lake scenario. Lake ain't Pete...far fromStrongArmCobra said:
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.creepycoug said:Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success. -
He's better than Petersen. Petersen was a whizz kid as an OC and yet as a head coach, his offenses have mostly sucked post-Kellen Moore. Lake is a superstar DC who's defenses as a head coach would continue to dominate here. Lake is also a better recruiter than Petersen. Petersen's strengths are his focus on fundamentals, decision making when hiring assistant coaches, being a good guy to work for which promotes staff continuity and loyalty, and he's good at evaluating talent and decent at recruiting. Lake could do all of that but take recruiting to a higher level. If Jimmy was head coach, we might have guys like Drake Jackson, Stephon Wright, Joe Ngata, and Jeremiah Martin on the roster. Imagine Jimmy's recruiting ability spread out across all positions instead of just DB's. It's a tantalizing thought.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Good points but good luck with the Lake scenario. Lake ain't Pete...far fromStrongArmCobra said:
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.creepycoug said:Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success. -
Never! I want Pete to coach until he's 90
I have predicted 8 wins like 20 times.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Make a prediction then. It's how this works. But you wont. Who do you like? I wont expect a response. You never do loflPitchfork51 said:Oregon will win the conference potd
Pup is so fucking retarded it almost hurts -
The stats are abysmal. There have more elite OCs and DCs who hit their heads against the Peter Principle than you can shake a stick at.StrongArmCobra said:
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.creepycoug said:Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.
The truth is, for the vast majority of people, there is a point too high in their profession. -
Never! I want Pete to coach until he's 90
Let's be real, these dudes are football coaches.creepycoug said:
The stats are abysmal. There have more elite OCs and DCs who hit their heads against the Peter Principle than you can shake a stick at.StrongArmCobra said:
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.creepycoug said:Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.
The truth is, for the vast majority of people, there is a point too high in their profession.
I've always had a sneaking suspicion that the majority are completely incompetent and the superstars are just not stupid -
Yeah well, most assistants that become head coaches aren't nearly as good as Jimmy Lake. Plus, every great head coach was once an assistant. Worry about your own assistant coach who's a shit head coach in Cristobal.creepycoug said:
The stats are abysmal. There have more elite OCs and DCs who hit their heads against the Peter Principle than you can shake a stick at.StrongArmCobra said:
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.creepycoug said:Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.
The truth is, for the vast majority of people, there is a point too high in their profession. -
Peach, fiesta, rose..now sit;)StrongArmCobra said:
He's better than Petersen. Petersen was a whizz kid as an OC and yet as a head coach, his offenses have mostly sucked post-Kellen Moore. Lake is a superstar DC who's defenses as a head coach would continue to dominate here. Lake is also a better recruiter than Petersen. Petersen's strengths are his focus on fundamentals, decision making when hiring assistant coaches, being a good guy to work for which promotes staff continuity and loyalty, and he's good at evaluating talent and decent at recruiting. Lake could do all of that but take recruiting to a higher level. If Jimmy was head coach, we might have guys like Drake Jackson, Stephon Wright, Joe Ngata, and Jeremiah Martin on the roster. Imagine Jimmy's recruiting ability spread out across all positions instead of just DB's. It's a tantalizing thought.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Good points but good luck with the Lake scenario. Lake ain't Pete...far fromStrongArmCobra said:
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.creepycoug said:Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success. -
[laughing hysterically.gif]StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah well, most assistants that become head coaches aren't nearly as good as Jimmy Lake. Plus, every great head coach was once an assistant. Worry about your own assistant coach who's a shit head coach in Cristobal.creepycoug said:
The stats are abysmal. There have more elite OCs and DCs who hit their heads against the Peter Principle than you can shake a stick at.StrongArmCobra said:
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.creepycoug said:Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.
The truth is, for the vast majority of people, there is a point too high in their profession.
This response is you in a nutshell. You can never concede an inch of ground no matter what it is or how obvious.
It makes you look like you just started following the game 4 years ago.
The comment had nothing to do with Oregon but of course they live in your head.
Yes all great HCs were assistants at some point. That's well within the "no shit" category of responses.
But many of the great ones were good HCs somewhere before they got to the show.
Don't be so defensive ballz. It's a bad look. Again the stats are abysmal and many legendary assistants who were just as well respected as your man crush DB guru flamed out miserably doing the head gig. It is a much different job. -
All great coaches were once assistants.creepycoug said:
[laughing hysterically.gif]StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah well, most assistants that become head coaches aren't nearly as good as Jimmy Lake. Plus, every great head coach was once an assistant. Worry about your own assistant coach who's a shit head coach in Cristobal.creepycoug said:
The stats are abysmal. There have more elite OCs and DCs who hit their heads against the Peter Principle than you can shake a stick at.StrongArmCobra said:
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.creepycoug said:Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.
The truth is, for the vast majority of people, there is a point too high in their profession.
This response is you in a nutshell. You can never concede an inch of ground no matter what it is or how obvious.
It makes you look like you just started following the game 4 years ago.
The comment had nothing to do with Oregon but of course they live in your head.
Yes all great HCs were assistants at some point. That's well within the "no shit" category of responses.
But many of the great ones were good HCs somewhere before they got to the show.
Don't be so defensive ballz. It's a bad look. Again the stats are abysmal and many legendary assistants who were just as well respected as your man crush DB guru flamed out miserably doing the head gig. It is a much different job. -
Never! I want Pete to coach until he's 90Jimmy Lake has been a defensive coordinator for one year.
I fucking love the dude but let's see him actually build a defense or deal with roster turnover from his predecessor before we anoint him the next HC.
