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  • PineapplePirate
    PineapplePirate Member Posts: 4,628
    That was a GOOD Portland State team
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    Cuog probably checking in at #24
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,569 Standard Supporter
    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited September 2022
    haie said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    Beta Rank had UW favored in every game but @ Oregon, and they have a pretty good model that emphasizes things that matter more in college football. The creator/ceo/whatever the fuck he is thinks they win 8 or 9. 7.6-7.9 wins by most metrics.

    5-7 or 6-6 would be a fucking abortion in this conference.

    Beavlet, LimpDickert, ASU I expect wins. I expect one or two wins out of MSU/UCLA/Oregon.
    When was that analysis done ? Because it already wrong. They aren't favored this week.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited September 2022

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    we’re not oregon state, shut up you’re obnoxious.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    we’re not oregon state, shut up you’re obnoxious.
    Uw has a few things to prove before they can be compared favorably to OSU.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    Beta Rank had UW favored in every game but @ Oregon, and they have a pretty good model that emphasizes things that matter more in college football. The creator/ceo/whatever the fuck he is thinks they win 8 or 9. 7.6-7.9 wins by most metrics.

    5-7 or 6-6 would be a fucking abortion in this conference.

    Beavlet, LimpDickert, ASU I expect wins. I expect one or two wins out of MSU/UCLA/Oregon.
    When was that analysis done ? Because it already wrong. They aren't favored this week.
    Washington is favored by 2 right now
    Chintesting. Last I saw MSU was -3.5. I'll take MSU +2 all fucking day
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102
    edited September 2022

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    Beta Rank had UW favored in every game but @ Oregon, and they have a pretty good model that emphasizes things that matter more in college football. The creator/ceo/whatever the fuck he is thinks they win 8 or 9. 7.6-7.9 wins by most metrics.

    5-7 or 6-6 would be a fucking abortion in this conference.

    Beavlet, LimpDickert, ASU I expect wins. I expect one or two wins out of MSU/UCLA/Oregon.
    When was that analysis done ? Because it already wrong. They aren't favored this week.
    Washington is favored by 2 right now
    Chintesting. Last I saw MSU was -3.5. I'll take MSU +2 all fucking day
    Yeah it opened at that this AM offshore, but by the time it got to the US books it was a Pickem and quickly swung to UW-2. I think it will end up back around a Pickem by kickoff. Love the over of 53.5 though.

    Oregon somehow opened -7 vs byu but quickly got bet down to -4.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,329
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    Beta Rank had UW favored in every game but @ Oregon, and they have a pretty good model that emphasizes things that matter more in college football. The creator/ceo/whatever the fuck he is thinks they win 8 or 9. 7.6-7.9 wins by most metrics.

    5-7 or 6-6 would be a fucking abortion in this conference.

    Beavlet, LimpDickert, ASU I expect wins. I expect one or two wins out of MSU/UCLA/Oregon.
    When was that analysis done ? Because it already wrong. They aren't favored this week.
    Washington is favored by 2 right now
    Has daMoan EVER been right? Serious question.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028
    haie said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    Beta Rank had UW favored in every game but @ Oregon, and they have a pretty good model that emphasizes things that matter more in college football. The creator/ceo/whatever the fuck he is thinks they win 8 or 9. 7.6-7.9 wins by most metrics.

    5-7 or 6-6 would be a fucking abortion in this conference.

    Beavlet, LimpDickert, ASU I expect wins. I expect one or two wins out of MSU/UCLA/Oregon.
    Statistically, the difference for a team like UW between 5 wins and 7 wins is basically nothing.

    A few key injuries and you are easily looking at five wins. Non Injury luck and 7-8 wins is way easier.

    This is why I'm glad so far so good.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,199 Founders Club

    if we only win 7 i'm publicly asking Stalin to delete my account and then jump off the nearest water tower

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited September 2022
    EwaDawg said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    Beta Rank had UW favored in every game but @ Oregon, and they have a pretty good model that emphasizes things that matter more in college football. The creator/ceo/whatever the fuck he is thinks they win 8 or 9. 7.6-7.9 wins by most metrics.

    5-7 or 6-6 would be a fucking abortion in this conference.

    Beavlet, LimpDickert, ASU I expect wins. I expect one or two wins out of MSU/UCLA/Oregon.
    When was that analysis done ? Because it already wrong. They aren't favored this week.
    Washington is favored by 2 right now
    Has daMoan EVER been right? Serious question.
    I now you're being sarkastic but I'm rarely, if ever, wrong.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,029 Founders Club
    Looking ahead. Oregon’s schedule is pretty favorable. They should be ranked when they play. Same for UCLA. Maybe WSU if their D plays like it did at Wisconsin. None should be higher than 15. That’s it.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    we’re not oregon state, shut up you’re obnoxious.
    Uw has a few things to prove before they can be compared favorably to OSU.
    I get that the team sucked last year. That said, osu beat jimmy lake and Dylan Morris on a last second field go in Corvallis. Grow the fuck up @MikeDamone and quit being such a loser. Nobody in the conference besides maybe Utah and usc has any reason to think they’re good.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,257
    edited September 2022
    You guys think Cal can knock off ND? Their QB is out for the season.

    Chance that Colorado is the only P12 loss next week
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all

    Yes it is. They aren’t going 5-7. If Penix stays healthy they will win at least 8 games.
    Big if though. From what I've seen this team can't beat a pac 12 team with Morris and an average at best running game.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    chuck said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all

    Yes it is. They aren’t going 5-7. If Penix stays healthy they will win at least 8 games.
    Big if though. From what I've seen this team can't beat a pac 12 team with Morris and an average at best running game.
    Morris was in every game last year. Its not like he got blown out. With Morris this team is likely 6-6
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    chuck said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all

    Yes it is. They aren’t going 5-7. If Penix stays healthy they will win at least 8 games.
    Big if though. From what I've seen this team can't beat a pac 12 team with Morris and an average at best running game.
    I agree, but I don’t think it will be like last year. We can still beat a mid level PAC 12 team with Morris.

    I’m not as down on the running game. I think it’s a league average run game and we have the 2nd best passing attack after USC.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all

    Yes it is. They aren’t going 5-7. If Penix stays healthy they will win at least 8 games.
    Big if though. From what I've seen this team can't beat a pac 12 team with Morris and an average at best running game.
    Morris was in every game last year. Its not like he got blown out. With Morris this team is likely 6-6
    UWs defense last year sold out to stop the pass and made teams grind it out on the ground, which they were successful at doing in every game. That's the only reason the Morris led offense stayed in games IMO.

    This year's defense is going to stop the run light years better, but doesn't have the talent on the back end to contain passing games with a pulse. Every team left on the schedule can throw the ball.

    Morris, to me, is a game manager at his best. The offense won't hang with teams that can put up quick points with him in there. That's my fear.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,569 Standard Supporter

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all
    I'm too lazy to look up the schedule but clearly with adequate coaching they can win seven or eight games. Beating the top third of the conference will be tough. I said 6-6 but they've done what they're supposed to so far.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    edited September 2022
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all

    Yes it is. They aren’t going 5-7. If Penix stays healthy they will win at least 8 games.
    Big if though. From what I've seen this team can't beat a pac 12 team with Morris and an average at best running game.
    Morris was in every game last year. Its not like he got blown out. With Morris this team is likely 6-6
    UWs defense last year sold out to stop the pass and made teams grind it out on the ground, which they were successful at doing in every game. That's the only reason the Morris led offense stayed in games IMO.

    This year's defense is going to stop the run light years better, but doesn't have the talent on the back end to contain passing games with a pulse. Every team left on the schedule can throw the ball.

    Morris, to me, is a game manager at his best. The offense won't hang with teams that can put up quick points with him in there. That's my fear.
    Oregon state, colorado and cal all suck at throwing the ball. Uw is not a great team, but if you can’t win 3 conference games with Morris as your qb just quit. He sucks but so does the conference. Arizona and Stanford also suck really bad. That is 5 very winnable games regardless of who is playing qb.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Oregon's 25 now. Even when we're good, we? lose to Cal and ASU on the road, so if it ends up better than 8-4, I'll be shocked.

    Who are the 6 wins?

    Colorado,
    Arizona
    Stanford?

    Who else? Uw won’t be favored big in any other games. 5 -7 isn’t out of the question. At all

    Yes it is. They aren’t going 5-7. If Penix stays healthy they will win at least 8 games.
    Big if though. From what I've seen this team can't beat a pac 12 team with Morris and an average at best running game.
    Morris was in every game last year. Its not like he got blown out. With Morris this team is likely 6-6
    UWs defense last year sold out to stop the pass and made teams grind it out on the ground, which they were successful at doing in every game. That's the only reason the Morris led offense stayed in games IMO.

    This year's defense is going to stop the run light years better, but doesn't have the talent on the back end to contain passing games with a pulse. Every team left on the schedule can throw the ball.

    Morris, to me, is a game manager at his best. The offense won't hang with teams that can put up quick points with him in there. That's my fear.
    Oregon state, colorado and cal all suck at throwing the ball. Uw is not a great team, but if you can’t win 3 conference games with Morris as your qb just quit. He sucks but so does the conference. Arizona and Stanford also suck really bad. That is 5 very winnable games regardless of who is playing qb.
    I agree there are winnable games in that scenario, but they'd be tossups in my mind. Those teams you mentioned can't pass against regular defenses, but they have the athletes and arms to pick apart an inept pass defense.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,654 Founders Club
    UW needed NFL db's because their pass rush was ass under Petersen. Our pass rushing unit should be towards the top 3rd of the conference at worse now, even though there were a lot of missed sacks in the Kent State game where they got there and simply whiffed. ZTF also still has to prove it wasn't just a fluke in 2020 from playing 3 weak teams.

    But I don't think conference play is just going to be the other side of the coin where offenses think they can just pass most of the time and destroy the defense. And most of these coaches don't have the balls to take a bunch of deep shots.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam
    I do not think UW could win with Morris under any circumstance. He came in late two weeks in a row against crap teams and still looked like shit. Haven't seen the depth chart but methinks he is now turd on the list. Huard is a number two.

    Turd and Number two - kind of shitty, it seems we are backed up with crap at QB