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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Another “diamond in the rough” lowly rated recruit

    Has the size so you never know with the trenches …

    Can’t wait to see DeBoer getting crowned for this one

    When someone actually "crowns" him for anything, including recruiting, you'll have a valid point. You can't seem to tell the difference between assessing a recruit's film and seeing positives, in spite of a low star rating, and "crowning" the coaching staff.

    It's not an either/or choice between cliche sarcasm ("another diamond in the rough" or "stole another mtn west recruit") and crowning the coach for getting commits that Oregon or USC didnt offer. There's plenty of ground in between. Realdawg and Dan Raley, and a lot of dm.com posters, have a hard time finding that ground too. They're just coming from the opposite side as you.
    I’m ripping the Discord people that can’t be balanced at all

    His measurables say he has a fighting chance

    I haven’t watched his film because I typically don’t until they sign

    My point is that if you look at the ratings he’s outside the Top 100 and has a circa 85 composite rating

    If we’re being honest statistically this is the type of recruit that isn’t successful in a P5 program and usually transfers out to a G5 or eats up a scholarship until he gets his degree

    There’s a decent number of players in this class that fall into this bucket …

    We’ll know more obviously in a few years

    Let’s just be objective about what is transpiring
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Another “diamond in the rough” lowly rated recruit

    Has the size so you never know with the trenches …

    Can’t wait to see DeBoer getting crowned for this one

    When someone actually "crowns" him for anything, including recruiting, you'll have a valid point. You can't seem to tell the difference between assessing a recruit's film and seeing positives, in spite of a low star rating, and "crowning" the coaching staff.

    It's not an either/or choice between cliche sarcasm ("another diamond in the rough" or "stole another mtn west recruit") and crowning the coach for getting commits that Oregon or USC didnt offer. There's plenty of ground in between. Realdawg and Dan Raley, and a lot of dm.com posters, have a hard time finding that ground too. They're just coming from the opposite side as you.
    I’m ripping the Discord people that can’t be balanced at all

    His measurables say he has a fighting chance

    I haven’t watched his film because I typically don’t until they sign

    My point is that if you look at the ratings he’s outside the Top 100 and has a circa 85 composite rating

    If we’re being honest statistically this is the type of recruit that isn’t successful in a P5 program and usually transfers out to a G5 or eats up a scholarship until he gets his degree

    There’s a decent number of players in this class that fall into this bucket …

    We’ll know more obviously in a few years

    Let’s just be objective about what is transpiring
    He's getting some low hanging fruit. They could turn out to be Sark-like or Petersen-like. I'd rather see more consensus 4* guys and less low hanging fruit too. I just don't like to comment about individuals until I've at least seen some highlights.

    I thunk most here are pretty objective. What I see transoiring is that there is a pretty broad tier of recruit that is simply out of UWs market eight now and it doesn't matter where they're from. The staff is casting a wide net and scouring for the few blue chips out there who will give UW an earnest look. Seems to me they're doing a good job of that. If the big inside LB recruit, Jackson I think, and the safety (Sanford?) commit I'll be fairly impressed with who they've gotten given the handicaps. Still some work to do but this class looks solid for the first full cycle.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Another “diamond in the rough” lowly rated recruit

    Has the size so you never know with the trenches …

    Can’t wait to see DeBoer getting crowned for this one

    When someone actually "crowns" him for anything, including recruiting, you'll have a valid point. You can't seem to tell the difference between assessing a recruit's film and seeing positives, in spite of a low star rating, and "crowning" the coaching staff.

    It's not an either/or choice between cliche sarcasm ("another diamond in the rough" or "stole another mtn west recruit") and crowning the coach for getting commits that Oregon or USC didnt offer. There's plenty of ground in between. Realdawg and Dan Raley, and a lot of dm.com posters, have a hard time finding that ground too. They're just coming from the opposite side as you.
    I’m ripping the Discord people that can’t be balanced at all

    His measurables say he has a fighting chance

    I haven’t watched his film because I typically don’t until they sign

    My point is that if you look at the ratings he’s outside the Top 100 and has a circa 85 composite rating

    If we’re being honest statistically this is the type of recruit that isn’t successful in a P5 program and usually transfers out to a G5 or eats up a scholarship until he gets his degree

    There’s a decent number of players in this class that fall into this bucket …

    We’ll know more obviously in a few years

    Let’s just be objective about what is transpiring
    He's getting some low hanging fruit. They could turn out to be Sark-like or Petersen-like. I'd rather see more consensus 4* guys and less low hanging fruit too. I just don't like to comment about individuals until I've at least seen some highlights.

    I thunk most here are pretty objective. What I see transoiring is that there is a pretty broad tier of recruit that is simply out of UWs market eight now and it doesn't matter where they're from. The staff is casting a wide net and scouring for the few blue chips out there who will give UW an earnest look. Seems to me they're doing a good job of that. If the big inside LB recruit, Jackson I think, and the safety (Sanford?) commit I'll be fairly impressed with who they've gotten given the handicaps. Still some work to do but this class looks solid for the first full cycle.
    Seems there's a star OL there in C/O 2025, so maybe there's that, too.

    It's like when Pete offered 0* Harris to get 4* Wattenberg.
  • picalogestabo
    picalogestabo Member Posts: 651
    2girls1culp > 2girls1applecup
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Another “diamond in the rough” lowly rated recruit

    Has the size so you never know with the trenches …

    Can’t wait to see DeBoer getting crowned for this one

    When someone actually "crowns" him for anything, including recruiting, you'll have a valid point. You can't seem to tell the difference between assessing a recruit's film and seeing positives, in spite of a low star rating, and "crowning" the coaching staff.

    It's not an either/or choice between cliche sarcasm ("another diamond in the rough" or "stole another mtn west recruit") and crowning the coach for getting commits that Oregon or USC didnt offer. There's plenty of ground in between. Realdawg and Dan Raley, and a lot of dm.com posters, have a hard time finding that ground too. They're just coming from the opposite side as you.
    I’m ripping the Discord people that can’t be balanced at all

    His measurables say he has a fighting chance

    I haven’t watched his film because I typically don’t until they sign

    My point is that if you look at the ratings he’s outside the Top 100 and has a circa 85 composite rating

    If we’re being honest statistically this is the type of recruit that isn’t successful in a P5 program and usually transfers out to a G5 or eats up a scholarship until he gets his degree

    There’s a decent number of players in this class that fall into this bucket …

    We’ll know more obviously in a few years

    Let’s just be objective about what is transpiring
    He's getting some low hanging fruit. They could turn out to be Sark-like or Petersen-like. I'd rather see more consensus 4* guys and less low hanging fruit too. I just don't like to comment about individuals until I've at least seen some highlights.

    I thunk most here are pretty objective. What I see transoiring is that there is a pretty broad tier of recruit that is simply out of UWs market eight now and it doesn't matter where they're from. The staff is casting a wide net and scouring for the few blue chips out there who will give UW an earnest look. Seems to me they're doing a good job of that. If the big inside LB recruit, Jackson I think, and the safety (Sanford?) commit I'll be fairly impressed with who they've gotten given the handicaps. Still some work to do but this class looks solid for the first full cycle.
    To be clear I don’t criticize recruits personally … if you’re getting a UW offer and you know that that could be out punting your coverage so to speak … I don’t blame anybody for taking that offer

    I’m critical of taking low hanging fruit for a number of reasons

    I agree with the areas that UW has shortfalls … it needs to be addressed

    I also agree that I see the staff working hard … but it’s also why the low hanging fruit is frustrating
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Another “diamond in the rough” lowly rated recruit

    Has the size so you never know with the trenches …

    Can’t wait to see DeBoer getting crowned for this one

    When someone actually "crowns" him for anything, including recruiting, you'll have a valid point. You can't seem to tell the difference between assessing a recruit's film and seeing positives, in spite of a low star rating, and "crowning" the coaching staff.

    It's not an either/or choice between cliche sarcasm ("another diamond in the rough" or "stole another mtn west recruit") and crowning the coach for getting commits that Oregon or USC didnt offer. There's plenty of ground in between. Realdawg and Dan Raley, and a lot of dm.com posters, have a hard time finding that ground too. They're just coming from the opposite side as you.
    I’m ripping the Discord people that can’t be balanced at all

    His measurables say he has a fighting chance

    I haven’t watched his film because I typically don’t until they sign

    My point is that if you look at the ratings he’s outside the Top 100 and has a circa 85 composite rating

    If we’re being honest statistically this is the type of recruit that isn’t successful in a P5 program and usually transfers out to a G5 or eats up a scholarship until he gets his degree

    There’s a decent number of players in this class that fall into this bucket …

    We’ll know more obviously in a few years

    Let’s just be objective about what is transpiring
    He's getting some low hanging fruit. They could turn out to be Sark-like or Petersen-like. I'd rather see more consensus 4* guys and less low hanging fruit too. I just don't like to comment about individuals until I've at least seen some highlights.

    I thunk most here are pretty objective. What I see transoiring is that there is a pretty broad tier of recruit that is simply out of UWs market eight now and it doesn't matter where they're from. The staff is casting a wide net and scouring for the few blue chips out there who will give UW an earnest look. Seems to me they're doing a good job of that. If the big inside LB recruit, Jackson I think, and the safety (Sanford?) commit I'll be fairly impressed with who they've gotten given the handicaps. Still some work to do but this class looks solid for the first full cycle.
    To be clear I don’t criticize recruits personally … if you’re getting a UW offer and you know that that could be out punting your coverage so to speak … I don’t blame anybody for taking that offer

    I’m critical of taking low hanging fruit for a number of reasons

    I agree with the areas that UW has shortfalls … it needs to be addressed

    I also agree that I see the staff working hard … but it’s also why the low hanging fruit is frustrating
    How do you define low hanging fruit?

    This kid is one of the first 20 OL they offered this class, and he's not a project they found in November after striking out the earlier part of the year.

    It's worth adding that Shepard was the coach who found him. He then connected him with Huff.
  • sinceredawg
    sinceredawg Member Posts: 833
    This message board is teeming with fruits.
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Another “diamond in the rough” lowly rated recruit

    Has the size so you never know with the trenches …

    Can’t wait to see DeBoer getting crowned for this one

    When someone actually "crowns" him for anything, including recruiting, you'll have a valid point. You can't seem to tell the difference between assessing a recruit's film and seeing positives, in spite of a low star rating, and "crowning" the coaching staff.

    It's not an either/or choice between cliche sarcasm ("another diamond in the rough" or "stole another mtn west recruit") and crowning the coach for getting commits that Oregon or USC didnt offer. There's plenty of ground in between. Realdawg and Dan Raley, and a lot of dm.com posters, have a hard time finding that ground too. They're just coming from the opposite side as you.
    I’m ripping the Discord people that can’t be balanced at all

    His measurables say he has a fighting chance

    I haven’t watched his film because I typically don’t until they sign

    My point is that if you look at the ratings he’s outside the Top 100 and has a circa 85 composite rating

    If we’re being honest statistically this is the type of recruit that isn’t successful in a P5 program and usually transfers out to a G5 or eats up a scholarship until he gets his degree

    There’s a decent number of players in this class that fall into this bucket …

    We’ll know more obviously in a few years

    Let’s just be objective about what is transpiring
    He's getting some low hanging fruit. They could turn out to be Sark-like or Petersen-like. I'd rather see more consensus 4* guys and less low hanging fruit too. I just don't like to comment about individuals until I've at least seen some highlights.

    I thunk most here are pretty objective. What I see transoiring is that there is a pretty broad tier of recruit that is simply out of UWs market eight now and it doesn't matter where they're from. The staff is casting a wide net and scouring for the few blue chips out there who will give UW an earnest look. Seems to me they're doing a good job of that. If the big inside LB recruit, Jackson I think, and the safety (Sanford?) commit I'll be fairly impressed with who they've gotten given the handicaps. Still some work to do but this class looks solid for the first full cycle.
    To be clear I don’t criticize recruits personally … if you’re getting a UW offer and you know that that could be out punting your coverage so to speak … I don’t blame anybody for taking that offer

    I’m critical of taking low hanging fruit for a number of reasons

    I agree with the areas that UW has shortfalls … it needs to be addressed

    I also agree that I see the staff working hard … but it’s also why the low hanging fruit is frustrating
    They may not be highly ranked but they aren’t Portland State and Montana type prospects either.
    Maybe we could use some Montana level players...
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,501
    edited August 2022
    Looks like we let "silent commit" Jordan Sanford get away by letting him think about it for too long

    Getting your pocket picked in recruiting by Texas Tech is always special
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    Looks like we let "silent commit" Jordan Sanford get away by letting him think about it for too long

    Getting your pocket picked in recruiting by Texas Tech is always special

    He is the first visitor from St DeBoer's Day to not commit to UW.

    Wonder if they're content with 1 safety this year (Holmes) or if they'll go after a local kid. Or maybe the portal again.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Looks like we let "silent commit" Jordan Sanford get away by letting him think about it for too long

    Getting your pocket picked in recruiting by Texas Tech is always special

    That better not happen with Victory Johnson.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,501

    Looks like we let "silent commit" Jordan Sanford get away by letting him think about it for too long

    Getting your pocket picked in recruiting by Texas Tech is always special

    That better not happen with Victory Johnson.
    From what I've read, it sounds like Victory Johnson may have needed to get caught up in the classroom. I also don't think we have much competition in landing him
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,659 Founders Club

    We can't get any kids who grew up in Seattle to stay here to play college football.

    Might as well compliment WNBA players to try to make the slogan relevant
    DeJounte Murray is doing much more for "Loyal to the Soil" than UW is right now.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    Looks like our WR class is going to be:

    Rashid Williams - 90 on 247
    Taeshaun Lyons - 89
    Beni Ngoyi - 86
    Keith Reynolds - 84

    One of the national 247 analysts said Ngoyi is going to get a bump in his rating soon. That's a solid haul for Shephard's first class here and hopefully this is the floor for what he can do at UW.

    Looks like we either let Ngoyi think about it too long or are looking elsewhere. All the crystal dongs have swung back to Iowa State.
    Sounds like Lyons is going to ND now, too.

    Guess it's back to the portal
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,501

    Looks like our WR class is going to be:

    Rashid Williams - 90 on 247
    Taeshaun Lyons - 89
    Beni Ngoyi - 86
    Keith Reynolds - 84

    One of the national 247 analysts said Ngoyi is going to get a bump in his rating soon. That's a solid haul for Shephard's first class here and hopefully this is the floor for what he can do at UW.

    Looks like we either let Ngoyi think about it too long or are looking elsewhere. All the crystal dongs have swung back to Iowa State.
    Sounds like Lyons is going to ND now, too.

    Guess it's back to the portal
    Yeah, as much fanfare as our new WR coach received, he hasn't done as well the recruiting trail as I thought he would. I think he'll be a great developer and hopefully the recruiting will come with it
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Recruiting high end players won’t change as long as we don’t bring the money to the table
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,659 Founders Club
    edited August 2022
    He's going to be a 4 star soon. Just like the coaches already knew he was.

    Huard is fucked at UW.