Taking the temperature of the room
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Do better than this. JFC.Prestonluv said:
Cmon man. If we don’t t the religious peeps piping in than it’s not overturned. Even if overturning it technically isn’t a religious issue the process of getting it overturned is definitely spearheaded by the religious right.MikeDamone said:Prestonluv said:Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.
Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.
Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.
This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.
I find it fascinating that people think abortion is a religious issue. Simp thinking. @creepycoug am I right?Prestonluv said:Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.
Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.
Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.
This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.
My daughter lives in Texas and got raped. I’m going to be a grandpa now. Can’t wait. -
The folks that say abortion isn’t a key player in the sharp drop of Republican candidates polling numbers, remind of the ones saying that covid payouts wouldn’t increase inflation.
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It matters but what's the point if the GOP just goes me too with the democratsKaepsknee said:The folks that say abortion isn’t a key player in the sharp drop of Republican candidates polling numbers, remind of the ones saying that covid payouts wouldn’t increase inflation.
It'd be like
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The point for me is that abortion is not one of my hot button issues. Certainly not something I want to burn seats in Congress over…RaceBannon said:
It matters but what's the point if the GOP just goes me too with the democratsKaepsknee said:The folks that say abortion isn’t a key player in the sharp drop of Republican candidates polling numbers, remind of the ones saying that covid payouts wouldn’t increase inflation.
It'd be like
A UNI PARTY
- Taxes
- Foreign policy
- Economic growth
- national security
That’s all I fucking care about. If I’m not getting those, then the rest of the shit doesn’t matter fuck all.
Would you trade those 4 for abortion? Shit no. And I happen to think the SCOTUS ruling is correct.
But I sure as shit didn’t want it happening in an election year. -
It is a hot button for a large portion of the base that you don't want staying home
I don't care but they do and the GOP promised this for decades
Make the correct argument or let the left frame it yet again
The GOP sucks. That's why they lose -
Then Talk me into believing this helps the GOP win in November. Because right now that’s what matters.
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Back at the start of one of these threads I saidthechatch said:Then Talk me into believing this helps the GOP win in November. Because right now that’s what matters.
The GOP won't hammer on issues like the border and the climate scam because they buy off on those being Trump issues
Nor do they aggressively attack Biden and congress
It gives the impression that they don't care that much
Husky football is the analogy -
Massie cares. Trump and Liz don't care.RaceBannon said:
Back at the start of one of these threads I saidthechatch said:Then Talk me into believing this helps the GOP win in November. Because right now that’s what matters.
The GOP won't hammer on issues like the border and the climate scam because they buy off on those being Trump issues
Nor do they aggressively attack Biden and congress
It gives the impression that they don't care that much
Husky football is the analogy -
Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
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Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies. -
#MyMassie has huge balls but no desire for real power or the title. Story as old as libertarian time.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies. -
Wrong gifMikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies. -
Libertarians love the indie band no one has heard of. @HarveyRoadBob_C said:
#MyMassie has huge balls but no desire for real power or the title. Story as old as libertarian time.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
I've seen his tweets
Big balls is running when you know you'll get the anal exam Trump got. It's the playbook now
Lizzy is attempting to keep congress blue with January 6 but still
And the fbi is scaring off candidates
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Disagree and disagree.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
It would take bigger balls to be the deciding, dissenting vote when yore* party's agenda is on the line. See: Manchin, Joe.
420-1 is pure tokenism.
IMO, you have the Trump crowd all wrong. All wrong.
If you believe Trump acted with the establishment or not, the perception by his most ardent supporters is he is the populist, antiestablishment candidate fighting against the establishment.
This is supported moreover by the fact the establishment HATES him. They hate him because he's an outsider in their world. He's not one of them who will toe the line. Thus, the establishment is the greatest ingrates of all-tim, or they know something you don't.
If you still want to believe he is in the big tent .....
Facts don't care about your feelings.
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If libertarians can’t put together a party after Covid and runaway fed caused inflation, they never will. Best we can hope for is that a few of the great positions become mainstream.RaceBannon said:
Libertarians love the indie band no one has heard of. @HarveyRoadBob_C said:
#MyMassie has huge balls but no desire for real power or the title. Story as old as libertarian time.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
I've seen his tweets
Big balls is running when you know you'll get the anal exam Trump got. It's the playbook now
Lizzy is attempting to keep congress blue with January 6 but still
And the fbi is scaring off candidates -
It keeps children from being torn limb from limb or some other horrific death. Isn't that enough?thechatch said:Then Talk me into believing this helps the GOP win in November. Because right now that’s what matters.
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Rand Paul was a covid hero. He's not his dad but he'd workBob_C said:
If libertarians can’t put together a party after Covid and runaway fed caused inflation, they never will. Best we can hope for is that a few of the great positions become mainstream.RaceBannon said:
Libertarians love the indie band no one has heard of. @HarveyRoadBob_C said:
#MyMassie has huge balls but no desire for real power or the title. Story as old as libertarian time.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
I've seen his tweets
Big balls is running when you know you'll get the anal exam Trump got. It's the playbook now
Lizzy is attempting to keep congress blue with January 6 but still
And the fbi is scaring off candidates
Libertarian positions are under assault.
If the GOP can't take congress and beat Biden then they can cry some more about Trump I guess
It's a fucking lay in. It's Montana
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I’ll buy that.RaceBannon said:
Back at the start of one of these threads I saidthechatch said:Then Talk me into believing this helps the GOP win in November. Because right now that’s what matters.
The GOP won't hammer on issues like the border and the climate scam because they buy off on those being Trump issues
Nor do they aggressively attack Biden and congress
It gives the impression that they don't care that much
Husky football is the analogy
We should be hearing about the border and inflation and taxes and crime.
What I keep hearing about is how Trump is Hitler, so the dems are winning the information battle while MItch and Liz take swipes at their own constituencies -
People hate the libertarian platform. No $2.2 trillion giveaways and too much personal responsibility. A losing position in AmericaBob_C said:
If libertarians can’t put together a party after Covid and runaway fed caused inflation, they never will. Best we can hope for is that a few of the great positions become mainstream.RaceBannon said:
Libertarians love the indie band no one has heard of. @HarveyRoadBob_C said:
#MyMassie has huge balls but no desire for real power or the title. Story as old as libertarian time.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
I've seen his tweets
Big balls is running when you know you'll get the anal exam Trump got. It's the playbook now
Lizzy is attempting to keep congress blue with January 6 but still
And the fbi is scaring off candidates -
420-1 is standing up for what you believe in. Not going along to get along like jumping on $2./ trillion and shilling for big pharma. But trump is anti establishment. He has the emotional types convinced. TDS goes both ways.pawz said:
Disagree and disagree.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
It would take bigger balls to be the deciding, dissenting vote when yore* party's agenda is on the line. See: Manchin, Joe.
420-1 is pure tokenism.
IMO, you have the Trump crowd all wrong. All wrong.
If you believe Trump acted with the establishment or not, the perception by his most ardent supporters is he is the populist, antiestablishment candidate fighting against the establishment.
This is supported moreover by the fact the establishment HATES him. They hate him because he's an outsider in their world. He's not one of them who will toe the line. Thus, the establishment is the greatest ingrates of all-tim, or they know something you don't.
If you still want to believe he is in the big tent .....
Facts don't care about your feelings.
The establishment loves trump. He greased their palms like they do. Defend his spending without sounding like a shill. You can't -
Mello is probably loony enough and would like to handle the forceps for the dismemberment. What an absolute fucking goon!Sledog said:
It keeps children from being torn limb from limb or some other horrific death. Isn't that enough?thechatch said:Then Talk me into believing this helps the GOP win in November. Because right now that’s what matters.
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WrongMikeDamone said:
420-1 is standing up for what you believe in. Not going along to get along like jumping on $2./ trillion and shilling for big pharma. But trump is anti establishment. He has the emotional types convinced. TDS goes both ways.pawz said:
Disagree and disagree.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
It would take bigger balls to be the deciding, dissenting vote when yore* party's agenda is on the line. See: Manchin, Joe.
420-1 is pure tokenism.
IMO, you have the Trump crowd all wrong. All wrong.
If you believe Trump acted with the establishment or not, the perception by his most ardent supporters is he is the populist, antiestablishment candidate fighting against the establishment.
This is supported moreover by the fact the establishment HATES him. They hate him because he's an outsider in their world. He's not one of them who will toe the line. Thus, the establishment is the greatest ingrates of all-tim, or they know something you don't.
If you still want to believe he is in the big tent .....
Facts don't care about your feelings.
The establishment loves trump. He greased their palms like they do. Defend his spending without sounding like a shill. You can't
Its not his spending anymore than it's Biden's
Basic civics are lost in this country
People do hate libertarians and do want to vote for representatives that spend lots of money
Agree there
Look at the deficit under St Reagan
Buying votes is as old as time
DeSantis is going to end social security and kill grandma
If Massie has balls then run and make the argument
Or keep playing small clubs and fuck off -
OK. A real Profile in Courage if I've ever seen one.MikeDamone said:
420-1 is standing up for what you believe in. Not going along to get along like jumping on $2./ trillion and shilling for big pharma. But trump is anti establishment. He has the emotional types convinced. TDS goes both ways.pawz said:
Disagree and disagree.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
It would take bigger balls to be the deciding, dissenting vote when yore* party's agenda is on the line. See: Manchin, Joe.
420-1 is pure tokenism.
IMO, you have the Trump crowd all wrong. All wrong.
If you believe Trump acted with the establishment or not, the perception by his most ardent supporters is he is the populist, antiestablishment candidate fighting against the establishment.
This is supported moreover by the fact the establishment HATES him. They hate him because he's an outsider in their world. He's not one of them who will toe the line. Thus, the establishment is the greatest ingrates of all-tim, or they know something you don't.
If you still want to believe he is in the big tent .....
Facts don't care about your feelings.
The establishment loves trump. He greased their palms like they do. Defend his spending without sounding like a shill. You can't
One of, if not, my main critiques of Trump was that he wasn't a deep thinker. As such, he didn't think three, four, and five moves ahead regarding the people he kept around him. He talked a big game but ultimately took the easy way out to hire swamp creatures. Almost all of them turned on him in one way or another - policy or personally.MikeDamone said:
420-1 is standing up for what you believe in. Not going along to get along like jumping on $2./ trillion and shilling for big pharma. But trump is anti establishment. He has the emotional types convinced. TDS goes both ways.pawz said:
Disagree and disagree.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
It would take bigger balls to be the deciding, dissenting vote when yore* party's agenda is on the line. See: Manchin, Joe.
420-1 is pure tokenism.
IMO, you have the Trump crowd all wrong. All wrong.
If you believe Trump acted with the establishment or not, the perception by his most ardent supporters is he is the populist, antiestablishment candidate fighting against the establishment.
This is supported moreover by the fact the establishment HATES him. They hate him because he's an outsider in their world. He's not one of them who will toe the line. Thus, the establishment is the greatest ingrates of all-tim, or they know something you don't.
If you still want to believe he is in the big tent .....
Facts don't care about your feelings.
The establishment loves trump. He greased their palms like they do. Defend his spending without sounding like a shill. You can't
He's the boss. He hired them. It's on him.
Anti-war, anti-TTP, forcing hospitals to post their fees publicly, making (albeit small) inroads to bring down costs of medicine, anti-globalist, attacking fake news, China tariffs, saying the quiet parts out loud, etc etc etc ....
ALL are antithetical to Establishment mores.
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I really just want to end the fed, end government overreach and end massive government corruption. The easiest for all three is cut off the money.
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The GOP could have simply hid in the basement until November 1 and ended up with both Houses.RaceBannon said:
It matters but what's the point if the GOP just goes me too with the democratsKaepsknee said:The folks that say abortion isn’t a key player in the sharp drop of Republican candidates polling numbers, remind of the ones saying that covid payouts wouldn’t increase inflation.
It'd be like
A UNI PARTY
Even after Roe v Wade and the Jan 6 shitshow.
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We're now arguing over how much spending not whether there should be any
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I hear ya. But Covid and the tumbling of the dominoes from there has made the Federal Government stronger than it has ever been, in the History of our Union.Bob_C said:I really just want to end the fed, end government overreach and end massive government corruption. The easiest for all three is cut off the money.
And the Blue states did most of the dirty work to get there.
Dems are team players.
The RNC is a rudderless ship that either didn’t think to reach out to Bible Belt states and say “cool your jets on abortion laws until after the election”, or they were just so clueless to not think about it.
I’m taking the latter -250. -
Trump warts and all >>DeSantis(unproven) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Establishment GOP
Sark>Ty
But that's all you ever get as the libertarian. Uw football indeed.
Libertarian party has no real chance imo. Better to take over the GOP as much as possible same as the commies have done with the Dems. -
I went to Oregon because I wanted to go to a school that would win games if I wanted a school that would lose to Montana, I would have gone to UW...HHusky said:
If you meant this to be as funny as it is, you could have done better than Oregon.Goduckies said:
Sorry it's not academicly prowessed enough for you.HHusky said:
Well, you went to Oregon.Goduckies said:
Bee is greatHHusky said:
He does.hardhat said:
I didn't assume that you were upset, you said it was good. I don't need to check myself. In a normal world, a 'christian satire site' would probably have a small audience. But the intolerant left have made themselves such easy targets that it's surprisingly popular. I don't know if he takes himself too seriously, I haven't met him.HHusky said:
If you assumed I was upset by his presentation, then you might need to check yourself. And I didn’t accuse him of anything but taking himself too seriously, and thereby losing a little of the high ground.hardhat said:
Only the left says things like this. Who are the ones that are upset when the light is shined on them? You're also conflating things. He's not daddy and he's not trying to censor you or prevent you from watching reruns of rachel maddow.HHusky said:
Watched his 2:45 clip speaking at Stanford. Good speaker. Good timing and funny.hardhat said:
Having said that, he tries to conflate two different things. Satire and humor always have an element of truth to them, and ideologues are definitely humorless. All good points. He could have left it there and made his protest.
By arguing that "the truth is not hate speech", he removes himself from the satirist's role and takes the position that he is a "truth teller", a newsman. The satirist can take aim at things, but when he takes himself too seriously, he becomes one of the humorless as well.
It's why the Babylon Bee is occasionally funny but isn't usually.
No offense intended, of course.
If not. Yikes!
I almost when to SC, but my Stanford grad dad wouldn't pay for tuition there as they were a major rival... he hated them and didn't want me playing in the USC marching band, so I went to the OMB instead. Best trip was partying with the Oregon cheerleaders in Hawaii! Them in Bikinis! Yum! -
I'd vote for Rand in a second for presidentRaceBannon said:
Rand Paul was a covid hero. He's not his dad but he'd workBob_C said:
If libertarians can’t put together a party after Covid and runaway fed caused inflation, they never will. Best we can hope for is that a few of the great positions become mainstream.RaceBannon said:
Libertarians love the indie band no one has heard of. @HarveyRoadBob_C said:
#MyMassie has huge balls but no desire for real power or the title. Story as old as libertarian time.MikeDamone said:
Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we knowRaceBannon said:Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand
If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him
Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
I've seen his tweets
Big balls is running when you know you'll get the anal exam Trump got. It's the playbook now
Lizzy is attempting to keep congress blue with January 6 but still
And the fbi is scaring off candidates
Libertarian positions are under assault.
If the GOP can't take congress and beat Biden then they can cry some more about Trump I guess
It's a fucking lay in. It's Montana
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