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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    pawz said:

    Trump cares. Don't overplay your hand

    If Massie has the balls to get in a fight and win I'll vote for him

    Trump cares about signing 2.2 trillion in spending and shilling for big pharma. That we know

    Massie has huge balls. Big enough to stand 420-1. The trump crowd wants no part of him. He doesn't hand out cash and goodies.
    Disagree and disagree.


    It would take bigger balls to be the deciding, dissenting vote when yore* party's agenda is on the line. See: Manchin, Joe.

    420-1 is pure tokenism.



    IMO, you have the Trump crowd all wrong. All wrong.

    If you believe Trump acted with the establishment or not, the perception by his most ardent supporters is he is the populist, antiestablishment candidate fighting against the establishment.

    This is supported moreover by the fact the establishment HATES him. They hate him because he's an outsider in their world. He's not one of them who will toe the line. Thus, the establishment is the greatest ingrates of all-tim, or they know something you don't.

    If you still want to believe he is in the big tent .....


    Facts don't care about your feelings.


    420-1 is standing up for what you believe in. Not going along to get along like jumping on $2./ trillion and shilling for big pharma. But trump is anti establishment. He has the emotional types convinced. TDS goes both ways.

    The establishment loves trump. He greased their palms like they do. Defend his spending without sounding like a shill. You can't
    Wrong

    Its not his spending anymore than it's Biden's

    Basic civics are lost in this country

    People do hate libertarians and do want to vote for representatives that spend lots of money

    Agree there

    Look at the deficit under St Reagan

    Buying votes is as old as time

    DeSantis is going to end social security and kill grandma

    If Massie has balls then run and make the argument

    Or keep playing small clubs and fuck off
    2.2 trillion spending spree. Trump is part of the establishment.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,502 Founders Club
    The GOP establishment hated Reagan for harnessing the revival of the 70s into the landslide of the 80s

    Never have been comfortable with the fundie wing
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    The GOP establishment hated Reagan for harnessing the revival of the 70s into the landslide of the 80s

    Never have been comfortable with the fundie wing

    Folks wanted to burn Reagan at the stake up until about 1982. As it wasn’t until then, that the country started to turn around. And Boy Howdy, did it. Reagan had great advisors all around him. Guys that had connections and had been through all of the political wars and knew how to leverage their power.

    And He needed every one of them, because after around mid 1985, the dementia was starting to win. But the Reagan Revolution marched on despite that.

    Trump never expected to win in 2016. And therefore was behind the sticks and appointed anyone who would take the job.
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,878
    It’s the economy, stupid.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    I believe Republicans blew it with the roe thing. Which is how you know they don't really want to win

    It will end up a perfect deadlock just how everyone in Washington loves it
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    I believe Republicans blew it with the roe thing. Which is how you know they don't really want to win

    It will end up a perfect deadlock just how everyone in Washington loves it

    Should they have publicly proclaimed that they reject the SC decision?
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    They shouldnt have nominated those justices if they knew it would screw them over