Tequilla Long Thoughts - Hawaii
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imagine how confident Hawaii will be when they take on Oregon State now though!!!!
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I agree the game was rough, but at the end of the day I'm not sure what the expectation was in terms of QB play. We heard all last year how Lindy wasn't ready(or maybe not even good enough) to play D1 football as a starter. Fast forward to the preseason and we have a group think exercise attempting to convince ourselves that our QB's are a whole lot better than they are. Cyler is still a mystery, but at least he had shown a whole lot more promise than anyone else on the roster.
I'm shocked it was a 1 point win, but I wasn't shocked we didn't blow out hawaii. Realistically the close loss could be a blessing. It will refocus players on what is needed to win, the coaches have a lot to reevaluate and push players, and it keeps us from having a QB controversy.
I have seen a lot of people convincing themselves Lindy was going to be a very good option and when it didn't materialize everyone has the sky is falling posts. Kinda comical when people build up someone outside their talent range and then freak out when they actually perform at that level.
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Brock and anyone who had watched practice the past two years warned us about Lindquist. Brock is close to the program and his brother works for it. They would obviously have Lindquist's ability dialed in. Expecting him not to suck was wishful thinking.
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And here's what the play calling should have been:Tequilla said:
Always good to pop off when the facts don't support your opinion ...TTJ said:
If Peterman had it all figured out by mid-Q3, why did it take until mid-Q4 to just give the ball to Coleman and Washington? Several of us noted on Friday that the sure way for Lindy to seal his career starting record at 1-0 was to just hand it off and stay out of the way. The Q3 playcalling was horrid, did the deer-in-headlights QB no favors.Tequilla said:...By the middle of the 3rd quarter, you could see that Petersen had made a decision to do whatever he could to protect the defense and asked them to go win the game. If you want a bright spot for the offense in the 2nd half, it was having 2 reasonably good drives with 8 minutes to go...
The run/pass mix for the game was 48 runs to 26 passes - no chance in hell Sark would have had a game that was that imbalanced run/pass. He would have forced the pass to get Lindy going, creating at least one turnover in the process, and that would have been the difference in the game.
As for the 3rd quarter, here are the drives:
Drive #1: run, run, pass
Drive #2: run, pass, pass (drive started backed up at the 2, first run got 1 yard as Hawaii stacked the box big time - the pass on 2nd down was the right play call)
Drive #3: pass, pass, run, run
Drive #4: pass, run, pass
Drive #5: run, pass, run
The play calling was balanced ... the whole concept of running the ball and forgetting the passing game wasn't working because the OL was getting ZERO push during the quarter. What finally started turning the game in the 4th was that the OL finally did start getting some movement starting with the 2nd to last drive of the game and then carried it over into running out the clock.
Drive #1: run, run, run, run, run, run, PAT
Drive #2: run, run, run, punt
Drive #3: run, run, run, run, run, PAT
Drive #4: run, run, run, run, FG
Drive #5: run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, PAT
Drive #6: run, run, run, run, victory formation
I sincerely HTH.
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Louise Rankin thinks Washington's running style is just fine.chuck said:
Washington has become an overrated message board legend. He has some great runs in him but he takes too long to decide. It looks like he's still learning which, well, seems like it shouldn't be the case this far into his career. He killed an important drive by running to the sideline and coming up short when he could have bulldozed a couple of defenders for the 2 yards he needed to gain the marker. That was a huge fuckup that killed a drive where UW had momentum. Coleman is better. -
Good comparison. Not exactly the same type of ability but similar issue.H_D said:
Louise Rankin thinks Washington's running style is just fine.chuck said:
Washington has become an overrated message board legend. He has some great runs in him but he takes too long to decide. It looks like he's still learning which, well, seems like it shouldn't be the case this far into his career. He killed an important drive by running to the sideline and coming up short when he could have bulldozed a couple of defenders for the 2 yards he needed to gain the marker. That was a huge fuckup that killed a drive where UW had momentum. Coleman is better. -
Too long, read it anyway, agree with most if it, looking for an accelerant and a match.
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Run game wasn't working with 8 in the box and Hawaii not having a single DB more than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. They got burned twice on the Ross TDs ... but Lindy couldn't make any kind of big throws, Mickens pretty much played like shit, and Kasen isn't anywhere close to 100%.TTJ said:
And here's what the play calling should have been:Tequilla said:
Always good to pop off when the facts don't support your opinion ...TTJ said:
If Peterman had it all figured out by mid-Q3, why did it take until mid-Q4 to just give the ball to Coleman and Washington? Several of us noted on Friday that the sure way for Lindy to seal his career starting record at 1-0 was to just hand it off and stay out of the way. The Q3 playcalling was horrid, did the deer-in-headlights QB no favors.Tequilla said:...By the middle of the 3rd quarter, you could see that Petersen had made a decision to do whatever he could to protect the defense and asked them to go win the game. If you want a bright spot for the offense in the 2nd half, it was having 2 reasonably good drives with 8 minutes to go...
The run/pass mix for the game was 48 runs to 26 passes - no chance in hell Sark would have had a game that was that imbalanced run/pass. He would have forced the pass to get Lindy going, creating at least one turnover in the process, and that would have been the difference in the game.
As for the 3rd quarter, here are the drives:
Drive #1: run, run, pass
Drive #2: run, pass, pass (drive started backed up at the 2, first run got 1 yard as Hawaii stacked the box big time - the pass on 2nd down was the right play call)
Drive #3: pass, pass, run, run
Drive #4: pass, run, pass
Drive #5: run, pass, run
The play calling was balanced ... the whole concept of running the ball and forgetting the passing game wasn't working because the OL was getting ZERO push during the quarter. What finally started turning the game in the 4th was that the OL finally did start getting some movement starting with the 2nd to last drive of the game and then carried it over into running out the clock.
Drive #1: run, run, run, run, run, run, PAT
Drive #2: run, run, run, punt
Drive #3: run, run, run, run, run, PAT
Drive #4: run, run, run, run, FG
Drive #5: run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, PAT
Drive #6: run, run, run, run, victory formation
I sincerely HTH.
I'm worried a bit about the offense ... the defense for the most part was exactly what I thought it was. -
All I have to say is Dwayne Wawrshington sucks and Lavon Coleman is good. If you can't see that you're JohnnyPatronNansenFS.
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Give it more than a game. Washington looked good in limited action last year. Coleman looked pedestrian until the final drive where he gained 43 yards on 6 carries. His stats were almost identical to Washington's before that. Great sample size on one.Dennis_DeYoung said:All I have to say is Dwayne Wawrshington sucks and Lavon Coleman is good. If you can't see that you're JohnnyPatronNansenFS.
Coleman was playing his first game and looked good.
