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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    RoadDawg55 said:

    chuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW hasn't recruited a QB who played like a star at the college level since they grabbed a free safety called Tui

    Cody was pretty good

    Locker was all airport

    It's been a crap shoot that we've lost at for 20 years

    The best QB at UW since Pickett, or perhaps since Tui, was an undersized 3* guy with two bad knees and a mediocre arm.
    I promise not to get into a back and forth, but it’s Browning, very easily.
    This
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    chuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW hasn't recruited a QB who played like a star at the college level since they grabbed a free safety called Tui

    Cody was pretty good

    Locker was all airport

    It's been a crap shoot that we've lost at for 20 years

    The best QB at UW since Pickett, or perhaps since Tui, was an undersized 3* guy with two bad knees and a mediocre arm.
    I promise not to get into a back and forth, but it’s Browning, very easily.
    Give me healthy Keith Price on the 2016 UW team any day of the week.
    This.

    But I've come to grips with Roadie's opinion about it.
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    RaceBannon said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    chuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW hasn't recruited a QB who played like a star at the college level since they grabbed a free safety called Tui

    Cody was pretty good

    Locker was all airport

    It's been a crap shoot that we've lost at for 20 years

    The best QB at UW since Pickett, or perhaps since Tui, was an undersized 3* guy with two bad knees and a mediocre arm.
    I promise not to get into a back and forth, but it’s Browning, very easily.
    Give me healthy Keith Price on the 2016 UW team any day of the week.
    This
    This, but that day of the week would be Saturdays

    Not sure he'd be as effective any other days of the week
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    It sounds like we should get into a back and forth about it.

    I'd take Browning because Price had his chance in 2013 and did worse than all of Browning's years but 2015.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam
    Alexis said:

    Just spent the week in South Dakota. Since I was wearing a UW hat, had alot of people come up to me to talk about this kid. (by the way, it pronounced Peer, not Pierre).

    Said the kid is a winner and great teammate and everybody in the town loves him. Said he has been getting training by a QB coach who is a buddy of Deboner, and the guy has been telling Deboner about him for a couple of years. Says he wouldn't recommend him if he wasn't the real deal because he wouldn't do Deboner that way. ND State really thought they had a shot at him and were pretty pissed they couldn't get him, but once UW offered, it was over. After getting a UW offer, a few other big Mid West teams came around but the coach told them don't bother, kid is not going anywhere else.

    Heard alot of good things, and also lots of good stuff about KD. CSB, take it for what it's worth.


    Also, you can buy fireworks anywhere there, and if you don't shoot them off in the middle of the street, it is frowned upon.

    CSB.

    For real. I like this QB.

    There's no law or limitations about fireworks where I live. I watched my GF's neighbor fire off about two months of my salary in explosives iver the course of 40 minutes or so. He set up inbthe middle of the street with 8 homes within 100 yards, in a strong wind, and showered everyone's home and yard with smoldering pieces of mortars and rockets.

    I sound like I'm complaining, but aside from our dogs and dwarf goats being traumatized, it was pretty bad ass.
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  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,699
    edited July 2022




    My BIL did the same, except it was his whole life savings in 10min
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited July 2022
    dannarc said:





    My BIL did the same, except it was his whole life savings in 10min

    That looks more like some of the other neighbors. This dude had a structure made out of pallets, a whole row of maybe 12-15 homemade pvc mortar tubes, a pallet covered in fireworks in the packaging, and two tables to organize things. There were also three people with propane torches so they could light them in bunches.

    I was impressed. I mean, I'd rather spend those thousands on golf clubs, fishing gear, and ammo, but it wasn't my money.
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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,509
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I like that Kienholz is a small town kid, in a state that rarely pumps out P5 talent, plays multiple sports and isn’t a 7 on 7 master, going to every camp. A QB could have undeniable talent but if they don’t play by the 247 and other recruiting guru’s camp games, they are going to be underrated in the rankings.

    Most QB’s suck so simply by the numbers, Kienholz will be a bust, but I do like him and am satisfied with him as the QB in this class.

    This is the truth and I'd also say that the "rankings" for qbs have proven to be completely unreliable. For every top-ranked guy like Trevor Lawerence who had a lot of success, you have 10 5-star guys like Jacob Eason who never lived up to their billing.
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  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    7 on 7 camp heros tend to only get judged on arm talent and raw athletic ability. Completely leaves out 2 of the most important QB traits: decision making and pocket awareness. Eason and Sirmon both flopped because they sucked at both of the latter.

    Keinholz is one of those guys who you can tell has "it" when it comes to pocket awareness based on his high school film. The way he moves around to buy time on throws while also keeping his eyes downfield is rare. The biggest question, as always, will be the decision making
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam
    NEsnake12 said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    7 on 7 camp heros tend to only get judged on arm talent and raw athletic ability. Completely leaves out 2 of the most important QB traits: decision making and pocket awareness. Eason and Sirmon both flopped because they sucked at both of the latter.

    Keinholz is one of those guys who you can tell has "it" when it comes to pocket awareness based on his high school film. The way he moves around to buy time on throws while also keeping his eyes downfield is rare. The biggest question, as always, will be the decision making

    Lots of QBs have improved under DeBoer. There are numbers, math, facts, etc. that support this

    I trust the coaches
    Haener was a walking INT at UW and he became a legit QB under this staff. I have faith
    He definitely was. He couldn't throw to the right color in practice at UW. And yet he was neck and neck with big dick Eason in camp. Who the fuck was in charge of UWs offense?
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  • DoogWhisperer
    DoogWhisperer Member Posts: 1,035
    NEsnake12 said:

    7 on 7 camp heros tend to only get judged on arm talent and raw athletic ability. Completely leaves out 2 of the most important QB traits: decision making and pocket awareness. Eason and Sirmon both flopped because they sucked at both of the latter.

    Keinholz is one of those guys who you can tell has "it" when it comes to pocket awareness based on his high school film. The way he moves around to buy time on throws while also keeping his eyes downfield is rare. The biggest question, as always, will be the decision making

    He barely completed 55% of his passes against terrible competition. Don’t judge kids by their highlight tapes. He’s got a ways to go to even be a mediocre D1 QB.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam
    DoogWhisperer said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    7 on 7 camp heros tend to only get judged on arm talent and raw athletic ability. Completely leaves out 2 of the most important QB traits: decision making and pocket awareness. Eason and Sirmon both flopped because they sucked at both of the latter.

    Keinholz is one of those guys who you can tell has "it" when it comes to pocket awareness based on his high school film. The way he moves around to buy time on throws while also keeping his eyes downfield is rare. The biggest question, as always, will be the decision making

    He barely completed 55% of his passes against terrible competition. Don’t judge kids by their highlight tapes. He’s got a ways to go to even be a mediocre D1 QB.
    He's a project QB with good tools. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobodybis calling him a sure thing to ever rise to #2, so you're just typing this shit for no reason unless it's virtue signaling. Looks like it earned the favor of NTXduck.

    I'd rather get a 5* every year for status even though most bust and the two UW has had recently have been less than impressive.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,132
    chuck said:

    DoogWhisperer said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    7 on 7 camp heros tend to only get judged on arm talent and raw athletic ability. Completely leaves out 2 of the most important QB traits: decision making and pocket awareness. Eason and Sirmon both flopped because they sucked at both of the latter.

    Keinholz is one of those guys who you can tell has "it" when it comes to pocket awareness based on his high school film. The way he moves around to buy time on throws while also keeping his eyes downfield is rare. The biggest question, as always, will be the decision making

    He barely completed 55% of his passes against terrible competition. Don’t judge kids by their highlight tapes. He’s got a ways to go to even be a mediocre D1 QB.
    He's a project QB with good tools. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobodybis calling him a sure thing to ever rise to #2, so you're just typing this shit for no reason unless it's virtue signaling. Looks like it earned the favor of NTXduck.

    I'd rather get a 5* every year for status even though most bust and the two UW has had recently have been less than impressive.
    It’s a pretty big reach for this early in the cycle. Most likely scenario is it’s KDB doing a friend a favor. Some of the comments in this thread are lol. Kid is literally playing against race and haie on D
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    edited July 2022
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Nxtduck, I gotta say it’s kind of dumb you even give a shit about Kienholz. If Oregon signed a 3* QB that some quooks thought was good, I wouldn’t give a shit.

    I don't give a fuck about each school's approach. Ours is clearly out scouting for under the radar guys who aren't pussies and won't embarrass the school, and won't tap out when they think their draft stock is going to take a hit. It works at times, it fails at times.

    Oregon's approach fails at times, and succeeds at times. See Texas, tamu, LSU when the wheels fell off, etc.

    I like what UW is doing because you get folk heroes like Gaines. I remember him in the 2015 SC game where he's taking late shots against that pussy surfer QB ESPN and Sark were sucking off.

    Getting BB was great but he dipped after 3 years and is definitely a factor in that soul crushing Stanford game if he doesn't leave early.

    Both are in the NFL obviously. But Gaines factors in an extra conference championship.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,132
    RoadDawg55 said:

    ntxduck said:

    chuck said:

    DoogWhisperer said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    7 on 7 camp heros tend to only get judged on arm talent and raw athletic ability. Completely leaves out 2 of the most important QB traits: decision making and pocket awareness. Eason and Sirmon both flopped because they sucked at both of the latter.

    Keinholz is one of those guys who you can tell has "it" when it comes to pocket awareness based on his high school film. The way he moves around to buy time on throws while also keeping his eyes downfield is rare. The biggest question, as always, will be the decision making

    He barely completed 55% of his passes against terrible competition. Don’t judge kids by their highlight tapes. He’s got a ways to go to even be a mediocre D1 QB.
    He's a project QB with good tools. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobodybis calling him a sure thing to ever rise to #2, so you're just typing this shit for no reason unless it's virtue signaling. Looks like it earned the favor of NTXduck.

    I'd rather get a 5* every year for status even though most bust and the two UW has had recently have been less than impressive.
    It’s a pretty big reach for this early in the cycle. Most likely scenario is it’s KDB doing a friend a favor. Some of the comments in this thread are lol. Kid is literally playing against race and haie on D
    It’s not tho. Pretty sure Kienholz or Avery Johnson was who the coaches felt they had a shot at and wanted. The kid that went to Oregon State didn’t choose Oregon State over UW. Gabarri Johnson is a 4 star from the state but his ceiling is mediocre college starter.

    You think Emeka Egbuka at Steilacoom was playing against good competition? If you think 2A Washington high school football has talent, fuck oh dear man. Savell Smalls was a five star and wasn’t even a dominant high school player. I’m sure Kienholz has five 250+ pound monsters protecting him at OL. His #1 WR is deciding between Ohio State and Alabama.

    You are hitting just about every TBS addiction cliche. Kienholz will probably suck. He’s a very good athlete, from a state that doesn’t produce talent.
    I’ve been on record for years saying that most WA and OR hs players are terrible. I’d take a 3* with decent offers from ca or Tx over a fetters 4* any day of the week
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ntxduck said:

    chuck said:

    DoogWhisperer said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    7 on 7 camp heros tend to only get judged on arm talent and raw athletic ability. Completely leaves out 2 of the most important QB traits: decision making and pocket awareness. Eason and Sirmon both flopped because they sucked at both of the latter.

    Keinholz is one of those guys who you can tell has "it" when it comes to pocket awareness based on his high school film. The way he moves around to buy time on throws while also keeping his eyes downfield is rare. The biggest question, as always, will be the decision making

    He barely completed 55% of his passes against terrible competition. Don’t judge kids by their highlight tapes. He’s got a ways to go to even be a mediocre D1 QB.
    He's a project QB with good tools. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobodybis calling him a sure thing to ever rise to #2, so you're just typing this shit for no reason unless it's virtue signaling. Looks like it earned the favor of NTXduck.

    I'd rather get a 5* every year for status even though most bust and the two UW has had recently have been less than impressive.
    It’s a pretty big reach for this early in the cycle. Most likely scenario is it’s KDB doing a friend a favor. Some of the comments in this thread are lol. Kid is literally playing against race and haie on D
    It’s not tho. Pretty sure Kienholz or Avery Johnson was who the coaches felt they had a shot at and wanted. The kid that went to Oregon State didn’t choose Oregon State over UW. Gabarri Johnson is a 4 star from the state but his ceiling is mediocre college starter.

    You think Emeka Egbuka at Steilacoom was playing against good competition? If you think 2A Washington high school football has talent, fuck oh dear man. Savell Smalls was a five star and wasn’t even a dominant high school player. I’m sure Kienholz has five 250+ pound monsters protecting him at OL. His #1 WR is deciding between Ohio State and Alabama.

    You are hitting just about every TBS addiction cliche. Kienholz will probably suck. He’s a very good athlete, from a state that doesn’t produce talent.
    I’ve been on record for years saying that most WA and OR hs players are terrible. I’d take a 3* with decent offers from ca or Tx over a fetters 4* any day of the week
    The best WA players aren't from Seattle proper.
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  • DucksFC
    DucksFC Member Posts: 4,092
    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ntxduck said:

    chuck said:

    DoogWhisperer said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    7 on 7 camp heros tend to only get judged on arm talent and raw athletic ability. Completely leaves out 2 of the most important QB traits: decision making and pocket awareness. Eason and Sirmon both flopped because they sucked at both of the latter.

    Keinholz is one of those guys who you can tell has "it" when it comes to pocket awareness based on his high school film. The way he moves around to buy time on throws while also keeping his eyes downfield is rare. The biggest question, as always, will be the decision making

    He barely completed 55% of his passes against terrible competition. Don’t judge kids by their highlight tapes. He’s got a ways to go to even be a mediocre D1 QB.
    He's a project QB with good tools. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobodybis calling him a sure thing to ever rise to #2, so you're just typing this shit for no reason unless it's virtue signaling. Looks like it earned the favor of NTXduck.

    I'd rather get a 5* every year for status even though most bust and the two UW has had recently have been less than impressive.
    It’s a pretty big reach for this early in the cycle. Most likely scenario is it’s KDB doing a friend a favor. Some of the comments in this thread are lol. Kid is literally playing against race and haie on D
    It’s not tho. Pretty sure Kienholz or Avery Johnson was who the coaches felt they had a shot at and wanted. The kid that went to Oregon State didn’t choose Oregon State over UW. Gabarri Johnson is a 4 star from the state but his ceiling is mediocre college starter.

    You think Emeka Egbuka at Steilacoom was playing against good competition? If you think 2A Washington high school football has talent, fuck oh dear man. Savell Smalls was a five star and wasn’t even a dominant high school player. I’m sure Kienholz has five 250+ pound monsters protecting him at OL. His #1 WR is deciding between Ohio State and Alabama.

    You are hitting just about every TBS addiction cliche. Kienholz will probably suck. He’s a very good athlete, from a state that doesn’t produce talent.
    I’ve been on record for years saying that most WA and OR hs players are terrible. I’d take a 3* with decent offers from ca or Tx over a fetters 4* any day of the week
    every time we get a no name 3* from the south I figure they're probably going to be a stud.

    Jordon Scott for example.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited July 2022
    haie said:

    Committed.

    @godawgst

    Suck a fat dick. You and @Tequilla were 100% wrong. Doesn't matter that you "are rooting for the program"

    I wouldn't pay you guys to forecast when my fucking lawn should be mowed next.

    Alright, I don't normally get into the TBS with you guys because I don't have the insight or interest until the class is signed, and even then I have to rely on "Stars matter". But chinned for the bolded. That was fucking funny and I did lol.
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  • bananasnblondes
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