USC/UCLA sell Pac 12 couch
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One of my beefs here is that part of the reason the Pac-12 sucks is because UCLA and USC have sucked so it's aggravating to have them blow up the Pac-12 partially because they can't build up their own shit. I'd be bitter as fuck if I was the Coug or Beav because they've both gotten the most out of their programs for the most part in recent history and they're getting left behind by hot girls who just self sabotaged for years. I'd throw UW in there as well.BleachedAnusDawg said:YellowSnow said:
The NFL at least makes sense. And it’s at least fair and honest.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
It’s turning into NFL Lite.MikeDamone said:It’s over. If I had any enthusiasm, for college football and/or uw, it’s gone. No warning. Just gone.
The game I fell in love with and everything that made it unique and special has been obliterated.
College football is a steaming pile of illogical shit.
Nope. LA schools ghosted them which means they won't do any heavy lifting to get UW in to the B1G, either.TXDawg said:
Gives me the sense they had no idea this was coming.Motrboatnsob said:
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The most succint and reasonable post in the thread. The two schools with a lot of downside should the Pac 12 as we know it fold are those two schools. Ducks hoping Washington crashes and DWAGs hoping Oregon crashes is natural, but hope and bidness are two different things. UW and Oregon will be fine wherever they land.haie said:
UW and UO will be fine.Kaepsknee said:ESPN has just called it official.
Couglet and Beavlet are fucked.
There's about an 81% chance of that being the case.
I, myself, simply abhor the demolition of old and geographical rivalries. It's an abortion that Oklahoma and Nebraska don't play each other every season. Just one example. One thing geography did in addition to maintaining tradition was make big OOC matchups exciting. I remember back when UCLA beat Nebraska ... that was a fucking huge moment for the Pac 10 at that time in part because Nebraska was Nebraska back then, and in part because those two schools playing each other was like finding a unicorn. It was unusual. They didn't belong together. Made it fucking exciting.
Now? Eh, I'm too fucking old. I still haven't accepted Nebraska in the Big 10 and think the old Big 8 should reconvene ... including Colorado. That's how out of it I am. I would also junk the playoff and go back to bowls and let people argue the champ. -
They left for a pay raise of $70 million dollars more Per Year which over the course of the Fox TV deal will be close to a Billion Dollars in additional revenue.
No more no less
like it or not Pac Dead Presidents money makes the world go round..... -
We can all talk about losing the Pac 12 that we love. But let's be honest...
Is the Pac 12 of last year the Pac 12 we love? How about 5 years ago? 10?
Even during Chips run at Oregon in early 2010's, you had Oregon and Stanford, and that's it. During Pete's run, you had Washington and a decent USC. In USC's 2000's run, you had USC and everybody else.
The golden age of Pac 12 football in my eyes was from around 89'-03'
USC was good, Washington was dominant for stretches, Oregon finally awoken, Arizona had the desert storm defense, WSU had some fun teams, as did ASU with Jake Plummer, and UCLA had a couple Rose Bowl births.
89' to 03' is the Pac 12 I love and miss, and I think we need to realize that that Pac 12 was gone forever. The current Pac 12 even with the LA schools was never going to be a power again.
Sometimes life changes. Andy Bernard had the best line at the office finale “I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them.” That's how I feel now. We have a new reality. Oregon and Washington will join the Big 10, that's all but a given.
Be thankful that we still have a chance to create a new good old days. Oregon State, Washington St, Arizona, and ASU may never have them again. That's the real tragedy. -
For me, it's simple. Big10 or bust. If UW ends up in the Big10, I actually think it could be a good thing. If UW ends up in the Big12 or there is some kind of merger between the remaining Pac teams and the Big12 or ACC or anything else, fuck it. The end has come.
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I don’t think it’s missing the Pac specifically. I think it’s missing the regional shit across the country and all that. It’s what made it unique as others have said. I never needed a real champion, myself. The messy end of the season was fucking cool. People left mad instead of sad. #Aggravation. The bowls were shit hot all across the country and they meant something even if they shouldn’t have. Now I watch about 4 bowl games every year. Maybe expanded playoffs will be the way. Doesn’t feel like it though.greenblood said:We can all talk about losing the Pac 12 that we love. But let's be honest...
Is the Pac 12 of last year the Pac 12 we love? How about 5 years ago? 10?
Even during Chips run at Oregon in early 2010's, you had Oregon and Stanford, and that's it. During Pete's run, you had Washington and a decent USC. In USC's 2000's run, you had USC and everybody else.
The golden age of Pac 12 football in my eyes was from around 89'-03'
USC was good, Washington was dominant for stretches, Oregon finally awoken, Arizona had the desert storm defense, WSU had some fun teams, as did ASU with Jake Plummer, and UCLA had a couple Rose Bowl births.
89' to 03' is the Pac 12 I love and miss, and I think we need to realize that that Pac 12 was gone forever. The current Pac 12 even with the LA schools was never going to be a power again.
Sometimes life changes. Andy Bernard had the best line at the office finale “I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them.” That's how I feel now. We have a new reality. Oregon and Washington will join the Big 10, that's all but a given.
Be thankful that we still have a chance to create a new good old days. Oregon State, Washington St, Arizona, and ASU may never have them again. That's the real tragedy.
Not crying about it but the DNA we loved is now gone. Hard to say if we’ll like what comes out on the other end. That’s where we sit right now. -
Good points. But I haven't liked what's been coming out the other end for at least a decade.MikeSeaver said:
I don’t think it’s missing the Pac specifically. I think it’s missing the regional shit across the country and all that. It’s what made it unique as others have said. I never needed a real champion, myself. The messy end of the season was fucking cool. People left mad instead of sad. #Aggravation. The bowls were shit hot all across the country and they meant something even if they shouldn’t have. Now I watch about 4 bowl games every year. Maybe expanded playoffs will be the way. Doesn’t feel like it though.greenblood said:We can all talk about losing the Pac 12 that we love. But let's be honest...
Is the Pac 12 of last year the Pac 12 we love? How about 5 years ago? 10?
Even during Chips run at Oregon in early 2010's, you had Oregon and Stanford, and that's it. During Pete's run, you had Washington and a decent USC. In USC's 2000's run, you had USC and everybody else.
The golden age of Pac 12 football in my eyes was from around 89'-03'
USC was good, Washington was dominant for stretches, Oregon finally awoken, Arizona had the desert storm defense, WSU had some fun teams, as did ASU with Jake Plummer, and UCLA had a couple Rose Bowl births.
89' to 03' is the Pac 12 I love and miss, and I think we need to realize that that Pac 12 was gone forever. The current Pac 12 even with the LA schools was never going to be a power again.
Sometimes life changes. Andy Bernard had the best line at the office finale “I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them.” That's how I feel now. We have a new reality. Oregon and Washington will join the Big 10, that's all but a given.
Be thankful that we still have a chance to create a new good old days. Oregon State, Washington St, Arizona, and ASU may never have them again. That's the real tragedy.
Not crying about it but the DNA we loved is now gone. Hard to say if we’ll like what comes out on the other end. That’s where we sit right now. -
Disagreegreenblood said:We can all talk about losing the Pac 12 that we love. But let's be honest...
Is the Pac 12 of last year the Pac 12 we love? How about 5 years ago? 10?
Even during Chips run at Oregon in early 2010's, you had Oregon and Stanford, and that's it. During Pete's run, you had Washington and a decent USC. In USC's 2000's run, you had USC and everybody else.
The golden age of Pac 12 football in my eyes was from around 89'-03'
USC was good, Washington was dominant for stretches, Oregon finally awoken, Arizona had the desert storm defense, WSU had some fun teams, as did ASU with Jake Plummer, and UCLA had a couple Rose Bowl births.
89' to 03' is the Pac 12 I love and miss, and I think we need to realize that that Pac 12 was gone forever. The current Pac 12 even with the LA schools was never going to be a power again.
Sometimes life changes. Andy Bernard had the best line at the office finale “I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them.” That's how I feel now. We have a new reality. Oregon and Washington will join the Big 10, that's all but a given.
Be thankful that we still have a chance to create a new good old days. Oregon State, Washington St, Arizona, and ASU may never have them again. That's the real tragedy. -
UW and Oregon will be there at closing time if you strike out on the hot babe
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The Pac 12 has been around for 11 years. It’s never been the “pac 12 I loved”RaceBannon said:
Disagreegreenblood said:We can all talk about losing the Pac 12 that we love. But let's be honest...
Is the Pac 12 of last year the Pac 12 we love? How about 5 years ago? 10?
Even during Chips run at Oregon in early 2010's, you had Oregon and Stanford, and that's it. During Pete's run, you had Washington and a decent USC. In USC's 2000's run, you had USC and everybody else.
The golden age of Pac 12 football in my eyes was from around 89'-03'
USC was good, Washington was dominant for stretches, Oregon finally awoken, Arizona had the desert storm defense, WSU had some fun teams, as did ASU with Jake Plummer, and UCLA had a couple Rose Bowl births.
89' to 03' is the Pac 12 I love and miss, and I think we need to realize that that Pac 12 was gone forever. The current Pac 12 even with the LA schools was never going to be a power again.
Sometimes life changes. Andy Bernard had the best line at the office finale “I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them.” That's how I feel now. We have a new reality. Oregon and Washington will join the Big 10, that's all but a given.
Be thankful that we still have a chance to create a new good old days. Oregon State, Washington St, Arizona, and ASU may never have them again. That's the real tragedy.
In my life, college football was golden and set apart from all other sports from my first game in 1969 to the latest 90s. A good 30-35 year run for me. I remember the pac 8 as well. Arizona state before it came to the pac 10 was a fun program. They had some great and interesting coaches. Frank Kush. Bruce Snyder…
I would extend my time line to 2003 or so if pressed. Overall we have had 20 years of decline to the point I’m no longer very interested and I know many many diehards who feel the same. Has anyone talked to @WhiskeyDawg lately. He was a a huskies Husky. He tapped out way before I did. -
Sounds like they’re waiting for the threesome to work out. But not until the pretty one agrees. As always.RaceBannon said:UW and Oregon will be there at closing time if you strike out on the hot babe
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Yeah, the lights come on at 2 a.m. and this is looking at you:RaceBannon said:UW and Oregon will be there at closing time if you strike out on the hot babe
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The 4th quarter can be some kind of extravagant side show that costs more and attracts more people than the game.RaceBannon said:
6 game season with each game being 3 quarters longBob_C said:
We need the Saudis to help us sort this out.MikeDamone said:
Just kill it and have minor leagues. The players will be able to negotiate salary and endorsement deals and finally get paid what they are worth vs being under the thumb of the man.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
It’s turning into NFL Lite.MikeDamone said:It’s over. If I had any enthusiasm, for college football and/or uw, it’s gone. No warning. Just gone.
The game I fell in love with and everything that made it unique and special has been obliterated.
Can you have 3 quarters? Wouldn't that be 3 thirds? What's the deal with that? -
Allah knows I’ve pulled worse.TheHB said:
Yeah, the lights come on at 2 a.m. and this is looking at you:RaceBannon said:UW and Oregon will be there at closing time if you strike out on the hot babe
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Allah himself has pulled worse. But still ...rodmansrage said:
Allah knows I’ve pulled worse.TheHB said:
Yeah, the lights come on at 2 a.m. and this is looking at you:RaceBannon said:UW and Oregon will be there at closing time if you strike out on the hot babe
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I don’t know why domers would want to give up their “we’re notre dame and you’re not” playoff invite.hardhat said: -
At some point, that golden dome isn't gonna buff itself.rodmansrage said:
I don’t know why domers would want to give up their “we’re notre dame and you’re not” playoff invite.hardhat said: -
UW and Oregon need to go actively and loudly speak with the SEC. Make the BIG consider they could lose Seattle and Portland TV markets and the west coast pod. Force the offer.
Or... more likely... get shunned by the SEC and lose any credibility whatsoever and maintain being the laughing stock of the country.
My guess is Oregon will do whatever it takes while UW will try to do it "the right way" and be stuck. Exactly as (not) planned. -
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Soft liberal snowflakes do not deserve good football
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I see this scenario: Notre Dame wises up and joins the B10. B10 then nabs the Ducks, leaving UW in its dust. The only hope in that scenario is the B10 wants an even 20 teams, so it takes UW and one other school ... Wilner thinks maybe North Carolina (?) but Stanford makes a lot of sense to me.LawDawg1 said:UW and Oregon need to go actively and loudly speak with the SEC. Make the BIG consider they could lose Seattle and Portland TV markets and the west coast pod. Force the offer.
Or... more likely... get shunned by the SEC and lose any credibility whatsoever and maintain being the laughing stock of the country.
My guess is Oregon will do whatever it takes while UW will try to do it "the right way" and be stuck. Exactly as (not) planned. -
We are officially Boise state
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Boise State won the Fiesta Bowl. We would have lost it.FireCohen said:We are officially Boise state
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May want to lower your bar. Boise cares about football.FireCohen said:We are officially Boise state
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Oregon and Washington, despite all these dumb ass rumors that the B1G is standing pat, should tell the Pac 12 to suck their dicks and give them an exponentially higher revenue share, go and maximize revenue as much as you can even if it means going with Amazon Prime, or fuck off.
If the Pac 12 really does feel like they need to expand, they should go get Hawaii and San Diego State.
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The last thing the conference needs is to subsidize more clown schools.
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