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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    Lots of hot Twitter fascist talk out there. Apparently it’s now fascist to be in favor decentralization of power and decision making. Will need to see how that fits in with the Wikipedia definition of fascism that @kobestopper posted daily.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    The baby murdering shit bags are busy crying.

    Not sure why women so ugly they can't get laid are so concerned.

    The decision isn’t a win for killing/not killing babies

    The victory is the validation of state laws as the arbiter in matters not specifically specified in the Constitution, as defined properly by the Supreme Court or enacted by legislative act.

    Leftists take heed. Governance by bureaucracy and executive order is next.

    The *real* populists are coming. Fuck the downvoting little faggots.
    True but one can choose to live in an actual American state.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    The same folks who tell you that Shall Not Be Infringed means go ahead and infringe think there is language in the constitution that protects abortion

    There isn't. Nothing to stop it either

    If we had a right to privacy 81% of police work would be illegal and 100% of internet companies would be as well

    I'm not even a pretend lawyer like creep or a shitty lawyer like H but I think that things that are not covered specifically as a federal law revert to the states

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    Second amendment is not absolute but the unnamed right to abortion on demand is absolute. Just what I’m hearing from the president, don’t twist.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    With typical modesty


    Former President Donald Trump praised the Supreme Court's Friday ruling overturning Roe v. Wade as "the biggest win for life in a generation," noting that it was "only made possible" by his actions as president.

    The court overturned the 1973 landmark decision that legalized abortion nationwide. The decision sends the issue back to the states to regulate.

    In a statement issued by his Save America PAC, Trump said:

    Today’s decision, which is the biggest WIN for LIFE in a generation, along with other decisions that have been announced recently, were only made possible because I delivered everything as promised, including

    nominating and getting three highly respected and strong Constitutionalists confirmed to the United States Supreme Court. It was my great honor to do so! I did not cave to the Radical Left Democrats, their partners in the Fake News Media, or the RINOs who are likewise the true, but silent, enemy of the people. These major Victories prove that even though the Radical Left is doing everything in their power to destroy our

    Country, your Rights are being protected, the Country is being defended, and there is still hope and time to Save America! I will never stop fighting for the Great People of our Nation!
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter

    The same folks who tell you that Shall Not Be Infringed means go ahead and infringe think there is language in the constitution that protects abortion

    There isn't. Nothing to stop it either

    If we had a right to privacy 81% of police work would be illegal and 100% of internet companies would be as well

    I'm not even a pretend lawyer like creep or a shitty lawyer like H but I think that things that are not covered specifically as a federal law revert to the states

    They sort of wrote it down somewhere.


  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2022
    NeverTrumpers celebrate overturning of Roe v. Wade that they did nothing to accomplish and if they had been successful it would never have happened along with the 2A going down the sh*tter. Like leftards, NeverTrumpers will never have an honest discussion or ever admit they are wrong.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Bill Kristol is complaining about the ruling

    Mr Conservative
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum. [So?]

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. [Constitutional amendment #13 bars slavery in the US]. Same applies here. [It doesn't]

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    Good enough for me. If the constitution needs an amendment to clarify that it protects the lives of the innocent, then it's a piece of paper not worth wiping my ass with.

    What you're really saying is that, if the states want to legalize the taking of innocent life, then they can until we amend the Constitution.

    Is that where you sit on this issue?

    Shame on you.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Bill Kristol is complaining about the ruling

    Mr Conservative

    I hear he voted for Reagan that means he is a real Conservative unlike you.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    The same folks who tell you that Shall Not Be Infringed means go ahead and infringe think there is language in the constitution that protects abortion

    There isn't. Nothing to stop it either

    If we had a right to privacy 81% of police work would be illegal and 100% of internet companies would be as well

    I'm not even a pretend lawyer like creep or a shitty lawyer like H but I think that things that are not covered specifically as a federal law revert to the states

    Then you weren't paying attention to the arguments in the abortion thread. It's ok. Even you can be wrong once every 100 years or so.

    Unless you are convinced the states currently enjoy the freedom to legislate the taking of innocent life. That's a mighty big delegation of power. I hold it as self-evident our Creator thinks otherwise. A few guys in Philadelphia thought so too.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Slavery was abolished by properly legislative action via the Constitution.
    You'd think El Creepo would know that
    Pay closer attention.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    The same folks who tell you that Shall Not Be Infringed means go ahead and infringe think there is language in the constitution that protects abortion

    There isn't. Nothing to stop it either

    If we had a right to privacy 81% of police work would be illegal and 100% of internet companies would be as well

    I'm not even a pretend lawyer like creep or a shitty lawyer like H but I think that things that are not covered specifically as a federal law revert to the states

    Then you weren't paying attention to the arguments in the abortion thread. It's ok. Even you can be wrong once every 100 years or so.

    Unless you are convinced the states currently enjoy the freedom to legislate the taking of innocent life. That's a mighty big delegation of power. I hold it as self-evident our Creator thinks otherwise. A few guys in Philadelphia thought so too.
    States have the power to take life

    Hope this helps
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Sounds like you'd be in favor of a legislative federal ban on abortion. Get rid of the filibuster, flip congress red and it can happen.
    I'm pure. You know that. Sure, I'd be in favor, but I don't think I need it. The preamble makes it clear, and if there is a notion that the Constitution, as currently drafted, allows for the taking of innocent life if in the infinite wisdom of the state legislature it is decided so, then the Constitution is a useless piece of shit for a document.

    The SCOTUS should have decided that abortion, under any circumstances, is unconstitutional on its face.

    I don't expect the Ducks to understand. You do. Sleddy does. Roadtrip does. I think my hermano Doog_bot gets it. Why are my other DWAGs struggling so mightily?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited June 2022

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Slavery was abolished by proper legislative action via the Constitution.
    So you think we need "proper" legislative action to clarify that the taking of innocent life is forbidden? Sounds like you should have taken a break from Balmer and spent a little more time in Savery Hall. Disappointed in you.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Slavery was abolished by properly legislative action via the Constitution.
    You'd think El Creepo would know that
    Pay closer attention.
    For those of you not picking up what our Cuban friend is laying down he supports abortion. His argument is completely disingenuous.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited June 2022

    The same folks who tell you that Shall Not Be Infringed means go ahead and infringe think there is language in the constitution that protects abortion

    There isn't. Nothing to stop it either

    If we had a right to privacy 81% of police work would be illegal and 100% of internet companies would be as well

    I'm not even a pretend lawyer like creep or a shitty lawyer like H but I think that things that are not covered specifically as a federal law revert to the states

    Then you weren't paying attention to the arguments in the abortion thread. It's ok. Even you can be wrong once every 100 years or so.

    Unless you are convinced the states currently enjoy the freedom to legislate the taking of innocent life. That's a mighty big delegation of power. I hold it as self-evident our Creator thinks otherwise. A few guys in Philadelphia thought so too.
    States have the power to take life

    Hope this helps
    No, it doesn't. It has that power in narrowly prescribed circumstances. Certainly the state of WASHINGTON lacks the power to randomly walk into my home and kill me for no reason. Or is that up for a vote?

    Sounds like this Constitution is a flimsy piece of paper. Not sure what was ever united about the united states. Sad to realize I guess.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    We will disagree. You and I have a different view on "life". I have no problem with the morning after pill and you would be in the small minority of Americans that would view that as taking a life. I'll go along with the 3 or 4 month rule.

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Sounds like you'd be in favor of a legislative federal ban on abortion. Get rid of the filibuster, flip congress red and it can happen.
    I'm pure. You know that. Sure, I'd be in favor, but I don't think I need it. The preamble makes it clear, and if there is a notion that the Constitution, as currently drafted, allows for the taking of innocent life if in the infinite wisdom of the state legislature it is decided so, then the Constitution is a useless piece of shit for a document.

    The SCOTUS should have decided that abortion, under any circumstances, is unconstitutional on its face.

    I don't expect the Ducks to understand. You do. Sleddy does. Roadtrip does. I think my hermano Doog_bot gets it. Why are my other DWAGs struggling so mightily?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    The same folks who tell you that Shall Not Be Infringed means go ahead and infringe think there is language in the constitution that protects abortion

    There isn't. Nothing to stop it either

    If we had a right to privacy 81% of police work would be illegal and 100% of internet companies would be as well

    I'm not even a pretend lawyer like creep or a shitty lawyer like H but I think that things that are not covered specifically as a federal law revert to the states

    Then you weren't paying attention to the arguments in the abortion thread. It's ok. Even you can be wrong once every 100 years or so.

    Unless you are convinced the states currently enjoy the freedom to legislate the taking of innocent life. That's a mighty big delegation of power. I hold it as self-evident our Creator thinks otherwise. A few guys in Philadelphia thought so too.
    States have the power to take life

    Hope this helps
    No, it doesn't. It has that power in narrowly prescribed circumstances. Certainly the state of WASHINGTON lacks the power to randomly walk into my home and kill me for no reason. Or is that up for a vote?

    Sounds like this Constitution is a flimsy piece of paper. Not sure what was ever united about the united states. Sad to realize I guess.
    No it doesn't

    It has that power

    I'm right your tedious and boring
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    SFGbob said:

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Slavery was abolished by properly legislative action via the Constitution.
    You'd think El Creepo would know that
    Pay closer attention.
    For those of you not picking up what our Cuban friend is laying down he supports abortion. His argument is completely disingenuous.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    The same folks who tell you that Shall Not Be Infringed means go ahead and infringe think there is language in the constitution that protects abortion

    There isn't. Nothing to stop it either

    If we had a right to privacy 81% of police work would be illegal and 100% of internet companies would be as well

    I'm not even a pretend lawyer like creep or a shitty lawyer like H but I think that things that are not covered specifically as a federal law revert to the states

    Then you weren't paying attention to the arguments in the abortion thread. It's ok. Even you can be wrong once every 100 years or so.

    Unless you are convinced the states currently enjoy the freedom to legislate the taking of innocent life. That's a mighty big delegation of power. I hold it as self-evident our Creator thinks otherwise. A few guys in Philadelphia thought so too.
    States have the power to take life

    Hope this helps
    No, it doesn't. It has that power in narrowly prescribed circumstances. Certainly the state of WASHINGTON lacks the power to randomly walk into my home and kill me for no reason. Or is that up for a vote?

    Sounds like this Constitution is a flimsy piece of paper. Not sure what was ever united about the united states. Sad to realize I guess.
    No it doesn't

    It has that power

    I'm right your tedious and boring
    The state has the power to kill me indiscriminately? I wouldn't have guessed. It seems weird that I'm protected from a law that would allow my enslavement but not from one allowing the state or anyone else to knock me off for whatever reason it chooses.

    But I'm probably being disingenuous now. Says the Duck pro-baby killer.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    The same folks who tell you that Shall Not Be Infringed means go ahead and infringe think there is language in the constitution that protects abortion

    There isn't. Nothing to stop it either

    If we had a right to privacy 81% of police work would be illegal and 100% of internet companies would be as well

    I'm not even a pretend lawyer like creep or a shitty lawyer like H but I think that things that are not covered specifically as a federal law revert to the states

    Then you weren't paying attention to the arguments in the abortion thread. It's ok. Even you can be wrong once every 100 years or so.

    Unless you are convinced the states currently enjoy the freedom to legislate the taking of innocent life. That's a mighty big delegation of power. I hold it as self-evident our Creator thinks otherwise. A few guys in Philadelphia thought so too.
    States have the power to take life

    Hope this helps
    No, it doesn't. It has that power in narrowly prescribed circumstances. Certainly the state of WASHINGTON lacks the power to randomly walk into my home and kill me for no reason. Or is that up for a vote?

    Sounds like this Constitution is a flimsy piece of paper. Not sure what was ever united about the united states. Sad to realize I guess.
    No it doesn't

    It has that power

    I'm right your tedious and boring
    The state has the power to kill me indiscriminately? I wouldn't have guessed. It seems weird that I'm protected from a law that would allow my enslavement but not from one allowing the state or anyone else to knock me off for whatever reason it chooses.

    But I'm probably being disingenuous now. Says the Duck pro-baby killer.
    The state kills people all the time. Quote common really

    St George Floyd forgives you as does Ashli Babbit and the 4 dead in Ohio

    The constitution has an enumerated right to protect your home against unreasonable search and seizure

    But a no knock warrant and boom your dead
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Slavery was abolished by properly legislative action via the Constitution.
    You'd think El Creepo would know that
    Pay closer attention.
    For those of you not picking up what our Cuban friend is laying down he supports abortion. His argument is completely disingenuous.

    Now you're just lying.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    We will disagree. You and I have a different view on "life". I have no problem with the morning after pill and you would be in the small minority of Americans that would view that as taking a life. I'll go along with the 3 or 4 month rule.

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Sounds like you'd be in favor of a legislative federal ban on abortion. Get rid of the filibuster, flip congress red and it can happen.
    I'm pure. You know that. Sure, I'd be in favor, but I don't think I need it. The preamble makes it clear, and if there is a notion that the Constitution, as currently drafted, allows for the taking of innocent life if in the infinite wisdom of the state legislature it is decided so, then the Constitution is a useless piece of shit for a document.

    The SCOTUS should have decided that abortion, under any circumstances, is unconstitutional on its face.

    I don't expect the Ducks to understand. You do. Sleddy does. Roadtrip does. I think my hermano Doog_bot gets it. Why are my other DWAGs struggling so mightily?
    That's a moral dilemma. Let me know if you are ever open to discussing it further. I think in time you'll come to see the error of your view here. I did. Time and perspective led me to the right answer.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Slavery was abolished by properly legislative action via the Constitution.
    You'd think El Creepo would know that
    Pay closer attention.
    For those of you not picking up what our Cuban friend is laying down he supports abortion. His argument is completely disingenuous.

    Now you're just lying.
    Nope. I'm not. You've shown a proclivity for reading minds in the past. You must be slipping. My feet are taped to the pedals on this one. It's wrong. Biology has given us a nice and clear bright line. There's nothing ambiguous about this entire argument. Only those who want to maintain the "convenience" argue their way to "compromise". From my POV, if you compromise on this you may as well be wearing a pink pussy hat and line up with them.

    But if you are able to get a good night's sleep, then that tells me all I need to know.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    Doubtful. No change with me since Roe was decided. Roe was a Constitution monstrosity. Now it's not. Abortion was legal in 20 states before Roe.

    We will disagree. You and I have a different view on "life". I have no problem with the morning after pill and you would be in the small minority of Americans that would view that as taking a life. I'll go along with the 3 or 4 month rule.

    Bob_C said:

    We lost our democracy today when an unelected court suggested they don’t have the power to legislate and that elected officials should determine the law. Sad day really.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    HTH
    I think @Bob_C was being SarKastic.
    I still cannot understand how people applaud handing this over to the states, which will leave us? with a patch-work of laws that will run the spectrum.

    There's a reason that no state, not even Mississippi, can legalize slavery. Same applies here.

    But, but, but social strife is irrelevant.
    Sounds like you'd be in favor of a legislative federal ban on abortion. Get rid of the filibuster, flip congress red and it can happen.
    I'm pure. You know that. Sure, I'd be in favor, but I don't think I need it. The preamble makes it clear, and if there is a notion that the Constitution, as currently drafted, allows for the taking of innocent life if in the infinite wisdom of the state legislature it is decided so, then the Constitution is a useless piece of shit for a document.

    The SCOTUS should have decided that abortion, under any circumstances, is unconstitutional on its face.

    I don't expect the Ducks to understand. You do. Sleddy does. Roadtrip does. I think my hermano Doog_bot gets it. Why are my other DWAGs struggling so mightily?
    That's a moral dilemma. Let me know if you are ever open to discussing it further. I think in time you'll come to see the error of your view here. I did. Time and perspective led me to the right answer.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    When you unleashed your paranoid rant about the how the "Christian Right might do something" the example you gave of what you feared they might do was the banning of abortion in a particular state.

    Now unless your position has completely changed in the last 18 months, you're dishonestly arguing a position you don't really believe in.
  • Bread
    Bread Member Posts: 4,075
    Anyone have Post football game party abortion statistics?