Saudi LIV Tour
Now, the US government has no problem sending US dollars to the Saudis or the chicoms, but this is actually taking Saudi dollars. Me, I'm out on the Saudi tour and expect it will have a negative effect on the game that made the PGA tour players immensely wealthy.
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Saudis are equally as dirty as the Chinese. I laugh at people getting bent out of shape on that point and then tuning into the NBA Finals.
It’s going to suck in all likelihood. A few big names that are certainly past their prime (aside from Bryson, but maybe he is too now)and a bunch of foreigners that only Race and I have heard of. To get into majors, you either need to have won a major or have a high official world golf ranking. If they don’t get tanking status, then how are their up and coming players going to qualify? -
Earlier this week I asked where the chokers and washed up non winners will come from if LIV breaks the tours
It's a dumb idea that has nothing to do with the Saudis
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I would have sold out for the money to be clear.
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A no brainer for the average golfer. But the douce Dustin Johnson has a new worth of $50 million and now he has more and a reputation he had worked pretty hard on restoring is now shot. Same with Phil. He will have a hard time replacing all his lost endorsement money. Americans don't like an uneven playing field unless you are a democrat. Very few democratic Americans left.Bob_C said:I would have sold out for the money to be clear.
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I was gonna say the opposite. Phil got like $200m and DJ got like $150-$200. Both are basically exempt in all majors for awhile. DJ would have to win ten FedEx cups in a row to make that kind of cash. He could win another 10 pga tour events and it wouldn’t improve his legacy even close to what another major or two would do.WestlinnDuck said:
A no brainer for the average golfer. But the douce Dustin Johnson has a new worth of $50 million and now he has more and a reputation he had worked pretty hard on restoring is now shot. Same with Phil. He will have a hard time replacing all his lost endorsement money. Americans don't like an uneven playing field unless you are a democrat. Very few democratic Americans left.Bob_C said:I would have sold out for the money to be clear.
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Guys losing their shit over this are fags.
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YR,YKBob_C said:
I was gonna say the opposite. Phil got like $200m and DJ got like $150-$200. Both are basically exempt in all majors for awhile. DJ would have to win ten FedEx cups in a row to make that kind of cash. He could win another 10 pga tour events and it wouldn’t improve his legacy even close to what another major or two would do.WestlinnDuck said:
A no brainer for the average golfer. But the douce Dustin Johnson has a new worth of $50 million and now he has more and a reputation he had worked pretty hard on restoring is now shot. Same with Phil. He will have a hard time replacing all his lost endorsement money. Americans don't like an uneven playing field unless you are a democrat. Very few democratic Americans left.Bob_C said:I would have sold out for the money to be clear.
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Tiger has made 1.7 billion
Winners win
Chokers take the guarantee
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That’s mostly endorsements. Black guys always get the best endorsementsRaceBannon said:Tiger has made 1.7 billion
Winners win
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When not being hunted downMikeDamone said:
That’s mostly endorsements. Black guys always get the best endorsementsRaceBannon said:Tiger has made 1.7 billion
Winners win
Chokers take the guarantee
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Take the bag. Everyone likes to talk about other people's money. DJ and Phil are basically stealing from the Saudis.
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If we only drilled a little more here, DJ would be playing the Canadian Open this week.BleachedAnusDawg said:Take the bag. Everyone likes to talk about other people's money. DJ and Phil are basically stealing from the Saudis.
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BTW, you guys are fags.
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Left wrist too cupped.PurpleThrobber said:
BTW, you guys are fags. -
Meh they got a bag of cash and never to be heard of again
What channel is the match on? Is it in HD?
If I was 40 and had no real record on the tour I'd take the money too
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https://larrycsonka.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/83b485566c688baec29f29c09b256cda-world-football-league-nfl-football.jpgRaceBannon said:Meh they got a bag of cash and never to be heard of again
What channel is the match on? Is it in HD?
If I was 40 and had no real record on the tour I'd take the money too
But I'd be a winner instead
@LarryCsonkaDawg and @JimKiickDawg, true? -
I'd take $100m to not be famous for golf.RaceBannon said:Meh they got a bag of cash and never to be heard of again
What channel is the match on? Is it in HD?
If I was 40 and had no real record on the tour I'd take the money too
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As far as the golf goes, I kind of like some of the tomfoolery they are trying out, the team aspect of it sounds kind of fun. The shotgun start was a trainwreck for the broadcast though.
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The tour has really done this to themselves by catering to the 75th - 125th players. They don’t add any money to anything, have no chance of winning and they get to call way too many of the shots, kind of like NATO in that sense. Triple the weekly purses at the top end and take it all out of the bottom half.Alexis said:As far as the golf goes, I kind of like some of the tomfoolery they are trying out, the team aspect of it sounds kind of fun. The shotgun start was a trainwreck for the broadcast though.
This Saudi league isn’t the answer, but there is going to be something that does take down the tour if they keep up their “equity” model. -
She's going to hook the shit out of the ball. No way to hit the deep right pin with that grip.PurpleThrobber said:
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More power to these guys. It's backed by the Saudi Government, so basically, an endless amount of funding. This tour isn't going anywhere.
USFL and XFL comparisons are pointless. A league funded by businessmen focused on profit, will lose to a rich government funded league that doesn't care about profits. The PGA Tour is going to go into decline, and will eventually be for newcomers and mid to low tier talent, as the established stars will move to the LIV tour for a lighter schedule with larger payoffs.
The only drawback right now, is the lack of corporate sponsors, as they don't want to be tied closely to the Saudi Government. That will change however, once the talent floods the league. Corporations will eventually do it, as that's where the eyeballs will be.
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Disagreegreenblood said:More power to these guys. It's backed by the Saudi Government, so basically, an endless amount of funding. This tour isn't going anywhere.
USFL and XFL comparisons are pointless. A league funded by businessmen focused on profit, will lose to a rich government funded league that doesn't care about profits. The PGA Tour is going to go into decline, and will eventually be for newcomers and mid to low tier talent, as the established stars will move to the LIV tour for a lighter schedule with larger payoffs.
The only drawback right now, is the lack of corporate sponsors, as they don't want to be tied closely to the Saudi Government. That will change however, once the talent floods the league. Corporations will eventually do it, as that's where the eyeballs will be.
Golf is an individual sport. Hogan, Palmer, Nicklaus, Woods
That's the legacy
Where do the next established stars come from?
The same place these guys came from. 40 something guys that fell short on REAL tours
This is college football trying to improve itself to oblivion
The Saudis are irrelevant. That's TDS residue. That's going to pass and the idea is still dumb
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The tour needs to address its relationship with the Korn Ferry to get the future big dick players on the Tour sooner. Last several years have had guys like Scheffler, Xander, Zalatoris, Mito locked up enough points for tour cards in like June but then they are stuck down there till October. All to protect the guys that finish right around 125 on the money list. Hovland and Morikawa got sponsors exceptions right out of college, and kicked as early. Hovland finished like 50th on the money list in like 3 months of play and wasn’t allowed to play in FedEx cup. Morikawa did similar but won the event in Reno that no one played in and was able to get in.RaceBannon said:
Disagreegreenblood said:More power to these guys. It's backed by the Saudi Government, so basically, an endless amount of funding. This tour isn't going anywhere.
USFL and XFL comparisons are pointless. A league funded by businessmen focused on profit, will lose to a rich government funded league that doesn't care about profits. The PGA Tour is going to go into decline, and will eventually be for newcomers and mid to low tier talent, as the established stars will move to the LIV tour for a lighter schedule with larger payoffs.
The only drawback right now, is the lack of corporate sponsors, as they don't want to be tied closely to the Saudi Government. That will change however, once the talent floods the league. Corporations will eventually do it, as that's where the eyeballs will be.
Golf is an individual sport. Hogan, Palmer, Nicklaus, Woods
That's the legacy
Where do the next established stars come from?
The same place these guys came from. 40 something guys that fell short on REAL tours
This is college football trying to improve itself to oblivion
The Saudis are irrelevant. That's TDS residue. That's going to pass and the idea is still dumb
Need to fix that shit asap, or these young guys are going to jump at the cash. The top 25 on the Korn Ferry can win on the tour, the bottom 25 on the tour have no chance. -
I thought the real money was all in the sponsorship deals, not the purses?Bob_C said:
The tour has really done this to themselves by catering to the 75th - 125th players. They don’t add any money to anything, have no chance of winning and they get to call way too many of the shots, kind of like NATO in that sense. Triple the weekly purses at the top end and take it all out of the bottom half.Alexis said:As far as the golf goes, I kind of like some of the tomfoolery they are trying out, the team aspect of it sounds kind of fun. The shotgun start was a trainwreck for the broadcast though.
This Saudi league isn’t the answer, but there is going to be something that does take down the tour if they keep up their “equity” model. -
Didn't LIV add the kid who was the US Amateur champ last year? Smart move for young kids want the quick buck and can get it from LIV without winning.Bob_C said:
The tour needs to address its relationship with the Korn Ferry to get the future big dick players on the Tour sooner. Last several years have had guys like Scheffler, Xander, Zalatoris, Mito locked up enough points for tour cards in like June but then they are stuck down there till October. All to protect the guys that finish right around 125 on the money list. Hovland and Morikawa got sponsors exceptions right out of college, and kicked as early. Hovland finished like 50th on the money list in like 3 months of play and wasn’t allowed to play in FedEx cup. Morikawa did similar but won the event in Reno that no one played in and was able to get in.RaceBannon said:
Disagreegreenblood said:More power to these guys. It's backed by the Saudi Government, so basically, an endless amount of funding. This tour isn't going anywhere.
USFL and XFL comparisons are pointless. A league funded by businessmen focused on profit, will lose to a rich government funded league that doesn't care about profits. The PGA Tour is going to go into decline, and will eventually be for newcomers and mid to low tier talent, as the established stars will move to the LIV tour for a lighter schedule with larger payoffs.
The only drawback right now, is the lack of corporate sponsors, as they don't want to be tied closely to the Saudi Government. That will change however, once the talent floods the league. Corporations will eventually do it, as that's where the eyeballs will be.
Golf is an individual sport. Hogan, Palmer, Nicklaus, Woods
That's the legacy
Where do the next established stars come from?
The same place these guys came from. 40 something guys that fell short on REAL tours
This is college football trying to improve itself to oblivion
The Saudis are irrelevant. That's TDS residue. That's going to pass and the idea is still dumb
Need to fix that shit asap, or these young guys are going to jump at the cash. The top 25 on the Korn Ferry can win on the tour, the bottom 25 on the tour have no chance.
I think this is going to be much more of a WWF vs NWO scenario than an NFL vs XFL scenario. -
They got the 2019 champ who hasn’t done much since turning pro right after. If you look at the last 20 years of US am winners, most haven’t really done shit on the tour. Bryson and Hovland have, and Matt Fitzpatrick sort of. That’s really about it. Most guys worth anything these days don’t play in it as they are turning pro after the college season to go start earning money right away because they have to chase status fast because of the reasons in my earlier post.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Didn't LIV add the kid who was the US Amateur champ last year? Smart move for young kids want the quick buck and can get it from LIV without winning.Bob_C said:
The tour needs to address its relationship with the Korn Ferry to get the future big dick players on the Tour sooner. Last several years have had guys like Scheffler, Xander, Zalatoris, Mito locked up enough points for tour cards in like June but then they are stuck down there till October. All to protect the guys that finish right around 125 on the money list. Hovland and Morikawa got sponsors exceptions right out of college, and kicked as early. Hovland finished like 50th on the money list in like 3 months of play and wasn’t allowed to play in FedEx cup. Morikawa did similar but won the event in Reno that no one played in and was able to get in.RaceBannon said:
Disagreegreenblood said:More power to these guys. It's backed by the Saudi Government, so basically, an endless amount of funding. This tour isn't going anywhere.
USFL and XFL comparisons are pointless. A league funded by businessmen focused on profit, will lose to a rich government funded league that doesn't care about profits. The PGA Tour is going to go into decline, and will eventually be for newcomers and mid to low tier talent, as the established stars will move to the LIV tour for a lighter schedule with larger payoffs.
The only drawback right now, is the lack of corporate sponsors, as they don't want to be tied closely to the Saudi Government. That will change however, once the talent floods the league. Corporations will eventually do it, as that's where the eyeballs will be.
Golf is an individual sport. Hogan, Palmer, Nicklaus, Woods
That's the legacy
Where do the next established stars come from?
The same place these guys came from. 40 something guys that fell short on REAL tours
This is college football trying to improve itself to oblivion
The Saudis are irrelevant. That's TDS residue. That's going to pass and the idea is still dumb
Need to fix that shit asap, or these young guys are going to jump at the cash. The top 25 on the Korn Ferry can win on the tour, the bottom 25 on the tour have no chance.
I think this is going to be much more of a WWF vs NWO scenario than an NFL vs XFL scenario. -
Imagine caring about this
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I can't wait for the first player to complain about anything like the spoiled players here do. These golfers are the saudi's newest little toy, they won't like it when they complain like they have done about the hand that fed them here (The PGA).
Anyone think the saudi's are going to put up with negative comments about their new league?
I live on an island that has 28 PGA tour players living on it. Most I have never heard of. One hosted a campaign event I went to. He is a nobody in the PGA but his house was incredible and he is clearly doing very well with his endorsements. These guys aren't starving. Chasing the sun and playing a non-contact sport seems to be good to them.
Greg Norman is worth a half of a billion dollars. Does anyone think we would have ever heard of him without the PGA tour? It is always interesting to me to watch greed destroy the vehicle that put you on its back and drove you there. -
I enjoy the free martlet and competition. Seems like some of you don't.Bendintheriver said:I can't wait for the first player to complain about anything like the spoiled players here do. These golfers are the saudi's newest little toy, they won't like it when they complain like they have done about the hand that fed them here (The PGA).
Anyone think the saudi's are going to put up with negative comments about their new league?
I live on an island that has 28 PGA tour players living on it. Most I have never heard of. One hosted a campaign event I went to. He is a nobody in the PGA but his house was incredible and he is clearly doing very well with his endorsements. These guys aren't starving. Chasing the sun and playing a non-contact sport seems to be good to them.
Greg Norman is worth a half of a billion dollars. Does anyone think we would have ever heard of him without the PGA tour? It is always interesting to me to watch greed destroy the vehicle that put you on its back and drove you there.
The market will work it out.
