If Chris Polk was white, would the UW had marketed him like they did Jake?
If Chris Polk was white, would the UW had marketed him like they did Jake? 24 votes
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I actually had a similar thought when I read bnb's post in that other thread... my first instinct is "hard to say" but I will think on it because it is actually a somewhat compelling question in my mind. I do know that I don't think he was intentionally discriminated against but that doesn't affect the question at hand...
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Too many factors. For one, Jake was a local boy, Polk was not. After 0-12, Jake was really the only proven player although he still had many deficiencies. Teo' Nesheim and Butler were good players, but a QB will always be marketed over a player on defense. At that point, Polk hadn't done shit because he got injured in the 2nd or 3rd game in 2008.
After the 2009 season, Jake was considered a candidate for the #1 pick. Of course UW would market him when he decided to return. Even if Polk was white, he would have never gotten that sort of hype from the outside media.
I voted too many factors, but I would lean more towards no if I had to choose. QB vs RB, local boy vs Cali boy, NFL draft perception, and timing. Those are all reasons I would put before race. -
No.
It's possible he would have gotten more promotion, but Polk was never listed as a Heisman candidate or potential #1 pick in the draft, and being white wouldn't have vaulted him into either of those discussions.
UW hyped Locker, but they were hardly alone in this.
The better question is, would Locker have been marketed the same way had he been black. I lean towards yes as the national attention likely would have been the same, but I think there's no question there would have been more UW/DM.c pushback against the hype if Locker was not a mothalovin cracka. -
White guilt?
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Chris getting away from his cousin Jordan and his boys would have helped his marketing immensely.....
I still don't believe for one second his "injuries" were the reason he dropped in the draft -
Derek, your agenda is clear for HH.
Honestly who gives a fuck. Don't you know Jake was the savior? He IS JESUS!
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A stud white running back? Lol. Why don't you ask if he were a unicorn what they would have done?
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There's another good answer and I'm almost postive you are correct about why he went undrafted.HuskyJW said:Chris getting away from his cousin Jordan and his boys would have helped his marketing immensely.....
I still don't believe for one second his "injuries" were the reason he dropped in the draft
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Why do you hate Hugh McElhenny and Mike Vindivich?MikeDamone said:A stud white running back? Lol. Why don't you ask if he were a unicorn what they would have done?
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I don't. But those two wouldn't have beat out any UW starter in the last 30 years.DerekJohnson said:
Why do you hate Hugh McElhenny and Mike Vindivich?MikeDamone said:A stud white running back? Lol. Why don't you ask if he were a unicorn what they would have done?
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Have to agree with Road Dawg here. In general a local kid is always going to be marketed better than a kid from out of state. Also in general a quarterback is always going to be marketed more than anyone on the roster.RoadDawg55 said:Too many factors. For one, Jake was a local boy, Polk was not. After 0-12, Jake was really the only proven player although he still had many deficiencies. Teo' Nesheim and Butler were good players, but a QB will always be marketed over a player on defense. At that point, Polk hadn't done shit because he got injured in the 2nd or 3rd game in 2008.
After the 2009 season, Jake was considered a candidate for the #1 pick. Of course UW would market him when he decided to return. Even if Polk was white, he would have never gotten that sort of hype from the outside media.
I voted too many factors, but I would lean more towards no if I had to choose. QB vs RB, local boy vs Cali boy, NFL draft perception, and timing. Those are all reasons I would put before race.
It's why in the NFL, most consider Marshawn Lynch to be better than Russell Wilson but Wilson is the face.
Even Price was on lame commercials and posters over ASJ/Sankey/Kasen who are all local guys due to him being the QB. -
I'm glad my idiotic response could generate so much discussion.
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Rumor has it that Sark bashed on his character to NFL scouts.HuskyJW said:
I still don't believe for one second his "injuries" were the reason he dropped in the draft -
fixed that for youMikeDamone said:DerekJohnson said:
Why do you hate Hugh McElhenny and Mike Vindivich?MikeDamone said:A stud white running back? Lol. Why don't you ask if he were a unicorn what they would have done?
I don't. I know you're being sarcastic, but those two wouldn't have beat out any UW starter in the last 30 years. -
"Had marketed"?
Jesus. You got published? -
And the answer is - of course. If Keith price was a protected #1 pick and heisman candidate, the free (and paid) pub!! would be insane.
Great concern trolling from our resident racist. -
"Protected #1 pick?" Don't you mean "projected"? Jee-sus, what a racist idiot!1!!11!!1!! lulzchrisvashon said:And the answer is - of course. If Keith price was a protected #1 pick and heisman candidate, the free (and paid) pub!! would be insane.
Great concern trolling from our resident racist. -
White RB's don't produce like Polk (unless they're from Stanford). No need to waste marketing dollars.
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Obvious grammar error in the subject line is obvious. Hth.DerekJohnson said:
"Protected #1 pick?" Don't you mean "projected"? Jee-sus, what a racist idiot!1!!11!!1!! lulzchrisvashon said:And the answer is - of course. If Keith price was a protected #1 pick and heisman candidate, the free (and paid) pub!! would be insane.
Great concern trolling from our resident racist.
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weak attempt at backpedalingchrisvashon said:
Obvious grammar error in the subject line is obvious. Hth.DerekJohnson said:
"Protected #1 pick?" Don't you mean "projected"? Jee-sus, what a racist idiot!1!!11!!1!! lulzchrisvashon said:And the answer is - of course. If Keith price was a protected #1 pick and heisman candidate, the free (and paid) pub!! would be insane.
Great concern trolling from our resident racist. -
Weak attempt at veiled racism, as always. Sounds like someone has an agenda.
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you don't belong here. Go back to Dawgman and say hi to Kim.chrisvashon said:Weak attempt at veiled racism, as always. Sounds like someone has an agenda.
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Sorry, I don't worship at the Derek Johnson alter. There are plenty of other racist sycophants on here to lick your nuts.
If you post racist shit, I'll call you on it. You, like Kim, could use a dose of humility. -
You sound like a citizen who enjoys brown bag luncheschrisvashon said:Sorry, I don't worship at the Derek Johnson alter. There are plenty of other racist sycophants on here to lick your nuts.
If you post racist shit, I'll call you on it. You, like Kim, could use a dose of humility. -
I thought you said you wanted to appeal to all kind of Dawg fans including the doogs?DerekJohnson said:
you don't belong here. Go back to Dawgman and say hi to Kim.chrisvashon said:Weak attempt at veiled racism, as always. Sounds like someone has an agenda.
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You may be dumber than the REAL Chris Vashonchrisvashon said:Sorry, I don't worship at the Derek Johnson alter. There are plenty of other racist sycophants on here to lick your nuts.
If you post racist shit, I'll call you on it. You, like Kim, could use a dose of humility. -
KRIS Vashon is offended.RaceBannon said:
You may be dumber than the REAL Chris Vashonchrisvashon said:Sorry, I don't worship at the Derek Johnson alter. There are plenty of other racist sycophants on here to lick your nuts.
If you post racist shit, I'll call you on it. You, like Kim, could use a dose of humility. -
The Derek Johnson alter. LOL #DramaQueenchrisvashon said:Sorry, I don't worship at the Derek Johnson alter. There are plenty of other racist sycophants on here to lick your nuts.
If you post racist shit, I'll call you on it. You, like Kim, could use a dose of humility. -
Sounds like you have minions.DerekJohnson said:
The Derek Johnson alter. LOL #DramaQueenchrisvashon said:Sorry, I don't worship at the Derek Johnson alter. There are plenty of other racist sycophants on here to lick your nuts.
If you post racist shit, I'll call you on it. You, like Kim, could use a dose of humility. -
It's bizarre. People that know me are aware that I am humble sometimes even to a fault. But Dave Samek and now this bumpkin have me pegged for a Jim Jones and/or Tom Jones type.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you have minions.DerekJohnson said:
The Derek Johnson alter. LOL #DramaQueenchrisvashon said:Sorry, I don't worship at the Derek Johnson alter. There are plenty of other racist sycophants on here to lick your nuts.
If you post racist shit, I'll call you on it. You, like Kim, could use a dose of humility.
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