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SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
edited June 2022 in Tug Tavern
I can't even imagine being in some kind of 3rd World shithole and then being dumped into the Tenderloin.

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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,570 Standard Supporter
    Not only refugees, but the SF citizens who voted/vote for SF to be a shithole.
    SFGbob said:

    I can't even imagine being in some kind of 3rd World shithole and then being dumped into the Tenderloin.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    As always, most of the people who voted for SF to be a 3rd World shit hole, don't live anywhere near the Loin. But that being said, there are enough leftwing idiots here who think that crime and open air drug markets and human shit on the sidewalk are all just part of the urban experience that we just need to accept. The only alternative is to put people in jail and we all know that is racist.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,570 Standard Supporter
    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,377
    Just then, a woman in a wheelchair approached, yelling incoherently and spouting Islamophobic statements about the girl’s hijab, according to the girl and police. Raghad, still learning English, only caught portions of the diatribe, but heard three words very clearly: “Are you scared?”

    “After that, she came close to me, and she hit me,” the girl told me a few months later. “She punched me in the head. I felt dizzy after that. I couldn’t believe it.”



    dang


    Ahmed witnessed the attack and rushed to help. A security guard called 911. Police responded and arrested the woman on suspicion of committing assault, child endangerment and a hate crime.


    thank god the attacker was arrested, maybe SF is tough on hate crime?


    she’s seen the suspect several times since the attack despite a protective order to stay away.


    lmao, nooooooooooooope
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    My working theory is all the coastal tech workers know they're overpaid slackers, so they vote to help the less fortunates, without reading the voters guide or understanding anything outside the realm of their latest gaming obsession.

    Since a lot of techies are social retards, eunuchs and cucks, they take their news from their fat girlfriends and vote accordingly. Rational humans would not act in such ways.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited June 2022

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    So I’m in PDX last Sat. AM and pass a guy sitting at a picnic table outside an eating establishment on a busy street. What does a person do with a small butane torch as they’re unwrapping tinfoil?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,416 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    So I’m in PDX last Sat. AM and pass a guy sitting at a picnic table outside an eating establishment on a busy street. What does a person do with a small butane torch as they’re unwrapping tinfoil?
    re-heating their half-eaten Taco del Mar burrito they had for lunch?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    During the attack did the attacker proclaim that SF is MAGA country? I’m hearing that’s the White Christian Extremist catch phase.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,764 Standard Supporter

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    Very bad idea.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Let’s put refugees in one of the most expensive cost of living cities in America and give them grocery clerk and janitor jobs. What could go wrong? I swear, liberals are fucking retards.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    SFGbob said:

    I can't even imagine being in some kind of 3rd World shithole and then being dumped into the Tenderloin.

    They demand you give up that ass in the tenderloin.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2022
    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    What’s the difference between Oregon and Portugal doing it the right way?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Harm Reduction doesn't work either.

    We need to acknowledge the obvious: Some people can take drugs without fucking up their lives and burdening society. But too many can't, and they are, and will continue to be, drags on society who consume far too many resources because of their inabilities to handle or manage their addictions. You can appropriately call the war on drugs a failure. But you cannot point to any successes, either.

    Read San Fransicko or shit, take a day trip to Vancouver BC to see the proof, first-hand.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Harm Reduction doesn't work either.

    We need to acknowledge the obvious: Some people can take drugs without fucking up their lives and burdening society. But too many can't, and they are, and will continue to be, drags on society who consume far too many resources because of their inabilities to handle or manage their addictions. You can appropriately call the war on drugs a failure. But you cannot point to any successes, either.

    Read San Fransicko or shit, take a day trip to Vancouver BC to see the proof, first-hand.
    People will never stop getting messed up on drugs. They damage can only be contained. Not only did the war on drugs failed, it made things worse. See Portugal for a model of successful controlling the damage. Is the Portugal model scalable to the USA? Oregon tried it, but only did half of it.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2022

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Harm Reduction doesn't work either.

    We need to acknowledge the obvious: Some people can take drugs without fucking up their lives and burdening society. But too many can't, and they are, and will continue to be, drags on society who consume far too many resources because of their inabilities to handle or manage their addictions. You can appropriately call the war on drugs a failure. But you cannot point to any successes, either.

    Read San Fransicko or shit, take a day trip to Vancouver BC to see the proof, first-hand.
    People will never stop getting messed up on drugs. They damage can only be contained. Not only did the war on drugs failed, it made things worse. See Portugal for a model of successful controlling the damage. Is the Portugal model scalable to the USA? Oregon tried it, but only did half of it.
    If you're dumb enough to get addicted to drugs, I shouldn't have to pay to get you sober. That's on you, druggie.

    Some can afford it, some can't. Some steal to afford it. If you can't handle the heat, GTFO of the kitchen. Pretty basic.

    PS: Harm reduction policies don't control the damage. They merely hide it, while the damage explodes.

    Want proof? Look at the City and County budge requests for "low barrier housing and treatment."
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    As always, most of the people who voted for SF to be a 3rd World shit hole, don't live anywhere near the Loin. But that being said, there are enough leftwing idiots here who think that crime and open air drug markets and human shit on the sidewalk are all just part of the urban experience that we just need to accept. The only alternative is to put people in jail and we all know that is racist.

    The worst part is that Portland and Seattle's to SF and the TL to hold their beer... it'snworse than a third world country now... it's madness.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Got offered hash and coke while in Portugal the other day lol but the city was still clean.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,076
    Goduckies said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Got offered hash and coke while in Portugal the other day lol but the city was still clean.
    Porto or Lisbon? Portugal is fucking awesome. Really interesting country with food to die for.

    The Euro cities don't put up with the bullshit of the US west coast. There's no fucking homeless camps, no shit on sidewalks, no beggars with cardboard signs at every intersection. Drug use isn't an excuse for not prosecuting existing laws and civil behavior.



  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Harm Reduction doesn't work either.

    We need to acknowledge the obvious: Some people can take drugs without fucking up their lives and burdening society. But too many can't, and they are, and will continue to be, drags on society who consume far too many resources because of their inabilities to handle or manage their addictions. You can appropriately call the war on drugs a failure. But you cannot point to any successes, either.

    Read San Fransicko or shit, take a day trip to Vancouver BC to see the proof, first-hand.
    People will never stop getting messed up on drugs. They damage can only be contained. Not only did the war on drugs failed, it made things worse. See Portugal for a model of successful controlling the damage. Is the Portugal model scalable to the USA? Oregon tried it, but only did half of it.
    If you're dumb enough to get addicted to drugs, I shouldn't have to pay to get you sober. That's on you, druggie.

    Some can afford it, some can't. Some steal to afford it. If you can't handle the heat, GTFO of the kitchen. Pretty basic.

    PS: Harm reduction policies don't control the damage. They merely hide it, while the damage explodes.

    Want proof? Look at the City and County budge requests for "low barrier housing and treatment."
    So you didn’t look into how Portugal does it.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2022

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Harm Reduction doesn't work either.

    We need to acknowledge the obvious: Some people can take drugs without fucking up their lives and burdening society. But too many can't, and they are, and will continue to be, drags on society who consume far too many resources because of their inabilities to handle or manage their addictions. You can appropriately call the war on drugs a failure. But you cannot point to any successes, either.

    Read San Fransicko or shit, take a day trip to Vancouver BC to see the proof, first-hand.
    People will never stop getting messed up on drugs. They damage can only be contained. Not only did the war on drugs failed, it made things worse. See Portugal for a model of successful controlling the damage. Is the Portugal model scalable to the USA? Oregon tried it, but only did half of it.
    If you're dumb enough to get addicted to drugs, I shouldn't have to pay to get you sober. That's on you, druggie.

    Some can afford it, some can't. Some steal to afford it. If you can't handle the heat, GTFO of the kitchen. Pretty basic.

    PS: Harm reduction policies don't control the damage. They merely hide it, while the damage explodes.

    Want proof? Look at the City and County budge requests for "low barrier housing and treatment."
    So you didn’t look into how Portugal does it.
    I'm aware of how Portugal does it, yes. But they have a comprehensive system that includes law enforcement keeping that shit out of public display and having addicts ruling it's downtowns. Seattle, Portland and Van BC want the easy parts of do-nothing "harm reduction" but they ignore and avoid the hard parts that instead land upon citizens and tourists who can't walk safely and unmolested through their downtowns.

    I could've also just said "See Throbber's comment, above." It's nails.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Harm Reduction doesn't work either.

    We need to acknowledge the obvious: Some people can take drugs without fucking up their lives and burdening society. But too many can't, and they are, and will continue to be, drags on society who consume far too many resources because of their inabilities to handle or manage their addictions. You can appropriately call the war on drugs a failure. But you cannot point to any successes, either.

    Read San Fransicko or shit, take a day trip to Vancouver BC to see the proof, first-hand.
    People will never stop getting messed up on drugs. They damage can only be contained. Not only did the war on drugs failed, it made things worse. See Portugal for a model of successful controlling the damage. Is the Portugal model scalable to the USA? Oregon tried it, but only did half of it.
    If you're dumb enough to get addicted to drugs, I shouldn't have to pay to get you sober. That's on you, druggie.

    Some can afford it, some can't. Some steal to afford it. If you can't handle the heat, GTFO of the kitchen. Pretty basic.

    PS: Harm reduction policies don't control the damage. They merely hide it, while the damage explodes.

    Want proof? Look at the City and County budge requests for "low barrier housing and treatment."
    So you didn’t look into how Portugal does it.
    I'm aware of how Portugal does it, yes. But they have a comprehensive system that includes law enforcement keeping that shit out of public display and having addicts ruling it's downtowns. Seattle, Portland and Van BC want the easy parts of do-nothing "harm reduction" but they ignore and avoid the hard parts that instead land upon citizens and tourists who can't walk safely and unmolested through their downtowns.
    Whats your point? I said Portugal decriminalized drugs successful. Oregon half assed it and fucked it up. It can be done,but like everything the left touches here, it turns to shit.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,764 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2022
    Decriminalizing drugs isn't a good play. Making them easier to get just makes more addicts. Some drugs are so highly addictive one use makes addicts. Addicts are not something we need more of. Almost everything you see when looking at the homeless is caused by three things: mental problems, drugs or alcohol.

    Where do these free drugs come from?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Sledog said:

    Decriminalizing drugs isn't a good play. Making them easier to get just makes more addicts. Some drugs are so highly addictive one use makes addicts. Addicts are not something we need more of. Almost everything you see when looking at the homeless is caused by three things: mental problems, drugs or alcohol.

    Where do these free drugs come from?

    As a mental excercise legalizing drugs makes sense. In reality it sucks.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Kaepsknee said:

    Another shocking stat. Who could have seen this coming? This is the sh*t the dazzler votes for because he "cares".

    https://instapundit.com/

    MYSTIFIED: Overdoses Up 700% After Oregon Decriminalizes Hard Street Drugs. Officials Mystified.

    There’s a case to be made for decriminalization, but it involves getting serious about mandator rehab and treatment for mental illness — not just leaving sick people out on the street to “self-medicate” themselves to death.

    But that’s what passes for progressive compassion.

    I’m very much into decriminalizing drugs. But as usual, the left figures out how to fuck it up.
    You already have case studies in Oregon and Washington.

    But because you’re afraid Of getting busted with mushrooms, you stay on this stale, misinformed tact.

    Sad.
    Disagree. Oregon did it but fucked it up. Portugal is actually the correct case study here.

    I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.

    But I know what the black market is.

    I remember the country's prohibition on alcohol phase.

    The "war on drugs" has been a costly and catastrophic failure.
    Harm Reduction doesn't work either.

    We need to acknowledge the obvious: Some people can take drugs without fucking up their lives and burdening society. But too many can't, and they are, and will continue to be, drags on society who consume far too many resources because of their inabilities to handle or manage their addictions. You can appropriately call the war on drugs a failure. But you cannot point to any successes, either.

    Read San Fransicko or shit, take a day trip to Vancouver BC to see the proof, first-hand.
    People will never stop getting messed up on drugs. They damage can only be contained. Not only did the war on drugs failed, it made things worse. See Portugal for a model of successful controlling the damage. Is the Portugal model scalable to the USA? Oregon tried it, but only did half of it.
    If you're dumb enough to get addicted to drugs, I shouldn't have to pay to get you sober. That's on you, druggie.

    Some can afford it, some can't. Some steal to afford it. If you can't handle the heat, GTFO of the kitchen. Pretty basic.

    PS: Harm reduction policies don't control the damage. They merely hide it, while the damage explodes.

    Want proof? Look at the City and County budge requests for "low barrier housing and treatment."
    So you didn’t look into how Portugal does it.
    I'm aware of how Portugal does it, yes. But they have a comprehensive system that includes law enforcement keeping that shit out of public display and having addicts ruling it's downtowns. Seattle, Portland and Van BC want the easy parts of do-nothing "harm reduction" but they ignore and avoid the hard parts that instead land upon citizens and tourists who can't walk safely and unmolested through their downtowns.

    I could've also just said "See Throbber's comment, above." It's nails.
    One of Portland's old Jewelers is calling it quits. They tried to hang on but there's not enough traffic in downtown or office workers to keep them going. That's just one story.

    I hear COVID did them in and not a bunch of GD worthless mental cases, alcoholics and drug addicts roaming the streets.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sledog said:

    Decriminalizing drugs isn't a good play. Making them easier to get just makes more addicts. Some drugs are so highly addictive one use makes addicts. Addicts are not something we need more of. Almost everything you see when looking at the homeless is caused by three things: mental problems, drugs or alcohol.

    Where do these free drugs come from?

    Sounds like you’re ready to go back to prohibition.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,764 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Decriminalizing drugs isn't a good play. Making them easier to get just makes more addicts. Some drugs are so highly addictive one use makes addicts. Addicts are not something we need more of. Almost everything you see when looking at the homeless is caused by three things: mental problems, drugs or alcohol.

    Where do these free drugs come from?

    Sounds like you’re ready to go back to prohibition.
    You can buy them for the addicts then. I don't want to.