Beating a dead horse
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According to obk I'm beavlet for life brohaie said:
I am your age I think.Pitchfork51 said:Haie you nerd. Aren't you like my age? That shit was a PowerPoint on blackboard.com
Who the fuck goes to the library
Only time I ever went I can't remember the reason but several of us cheated on some online Beatles and American music course or some shit.
Not sure why we went there. Maybe internet was out somewhere else
Oregon state was rigorous academis
I respect the Beavlet. At least they care about practical things. Fermentation science, computer science, electrical engineering, and fermentation science.
There were some cool roof top breweries and some other tap houses when I was there for the game.
Regarding the library stuff: UW has the best libraries in the entire fucking world.
Regarding Tempe when I visited, it was fucking amazing. -
There is ZERO evidence Campbell would do better. Or, less than ZERO.YellowSnow said:
There's not ton of evidence to suggest though that Campbell is more likely to win at UW than DeBoner.Tequilla said:
Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbellhaie said:
The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.Tequilla said:Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out
So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
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Sick of this life, not that you'd care
I'm not the only one with whom, these feelings, I share
Nobody understands quite why we're here
We're searching for answers that never appear
Maybe if I looked real hard, I'd, I'd see you trying, too
To understand this life that we're all going through
"Then when she said she was going to, like, wreck my car
I didn't know what to do"
[Chorus]
Oh, sometimes, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse
And I don't know why you'd be bringing me down
I'd like to think that our love's worth a tad more
It may sound funny, but you'd think, by now, I'd be smiling
I guess some things never change
Oh, never change -
My thoughts…three categories for coaching hires: elite coaches that go to programs that have elite resources and commitment, and have had recent success (Riley, Brian Kelley, Brian Kelley, Saban, Urbs, Jimbo)…Rehab tour: (Joey Freshwater, Uncle Denny, Chipper, Sark, maybe Harbaugh)…and, the path “we” have chosen, low-ball up and comer G5 HC / elite coordinator looking to move up the food chain (Rick, Jimmy no balls, Shaw, Smiff, Helfrich, Lanning). The elite guys were all once here, and never had to rehab (although Urbs will if he just can’t live without coed tail).
No elite coach would sniff the UW job right now…a HOF coach, well-respected, suddenly “burns out” and leaves a shit-load of $$ on the table, passing it to the “hand-picked” assistant who crashes it into the ditch…that screams incompetence in the AD, and elite (and, not-so-elite) coaches can smell it a mile away. The up-and-comers will bite, because $$ and confidence they can right the ship, when they “get their guys in there”.
Nobody wants to do a re-build, because in this game, that pretty much means an AD rebuild. -
We've had like 2 sizzle, winner hires in the modern era. Neither fulfilled their initial promise.RaceBannon said:This was a historic off season for coaching changes and big money
Reilly and Brian Kelly along with Brian Kelly left big time jobs for bigger jobs and money leaving big openings at Oklahoma and Norte Dame, midwest schools, one in the Big 12
UW and Cohen went cheap and Matt Campbell was a pussy and stayed in Ames
Both are true
No one could win in Corvallis until Dennis did. No one can win at Nebraska now. Allegedly
Winners win. DeBoer deserves a game or two to find out
Most coaches suck including most of the options for the Huskies
But USC was a clear winner. The best bet is steal a winner. Still not a lock but still
Lanning probably sucks too so there's that
Group of 5, might be decent to good, is the only time we've gotten it right. -
Complaining about certain games that Fresno didn’t do well but other teams did well against this other MWC team isnt smart.
If you’re the type of Doog allowing that and the year 0 recruiting to hate on the new coach. Then you get another Doog pin.
I would be a little concerned with the whole Jenny Craig thing. But other than the lines, there’s little reason for anyone to be plus #225 imo. Speed kills.
So, He May be onto something there. -
Deboer would have resigned from Fresnp Friday night b4 Kent State Game and flew up here to lead UW out of tunnel Saturday night if that is when we would have offered him position.doogville said:I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).
So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.
We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.
How recruiting is going speaks for itself, but his success/failure will be determined by how much of a offensive minded unicorn he is, and his ability to out scheme and coach teams.
I'm at 7/8 wins for us this year, which doesn't change the narrative enough for 2024 recruiting especially if our NIL and MF programs continue as they have so far. -
So we should have hired a coach who was burned out and didn't want to do this?godawgst said:
Deboer would have resigned from Fresnp Friday night b4 Kent State Game and flew up here to lead UW out of tunnel Saturday night if that is when we would have offered him position.doogville said:I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).
So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.
We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.
How recruiting is going speaks for itself, but his success/failure will be determined by how much of a offensive minded unicorn he is, and his ability to out scheme and coach teams.
I'm at 7/8 wins for us this year, which doesn't change the narrative enough for 2024 recruiting especially if our NIL and MF programs continue as they have so far.
'It's a red flag that we hired a coach that is 110% invested in making us a winner, when he has been a winner everywhere he's been at'
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This is dumb. There are 10,000 college coaches who would crawl over broken glass to be head coach at UW. Their enthusiasm for the job has little to do with whether they have the skill set to be successful.haie said:
So we should have hired a coach who was burned out and didn't want to do this?godawgst said:
Deboer would have resigned from Fresnp Friday night b4 Kent State Game and flew up here to lead UW out of tunnel Saturday night if that is when we would have offered him position.doogville said:I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).
So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.
We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.
How recruiting is going speaks for itself, but his success/failure will be determined by how much of a offensive minded unicorn he is, and his ability to out scheme and coach teams.
I'm at 7/8 wins for us this year, which doesn't change the narrative enough for 2024 recruiting especially if our NIL and MF programs continue as they have so far.
'It's a red flag that we hired a coach that is 110% invested in making us a winner, when he has been a winner everywhere he's been at'
-GoDawgsStupidTurd
We all want DeBoner to be the guy, but this attitude about how he’s some impeccable hire is really weird.
The dude spent 20 years slogging away as a complete nobody in college football — and please save me this Sioux Falls bullshit.
DeBoner has exactly one (1) year of P5 experience. And his staff of other “nobodies” (with one exception) demonstrates that.
He was available and cheap. Let’s not make more of this than it is.
Now, go win 10 games and prove all the doubters wrong. -
Bury Posthaie said:
So we should have hired a coach who was burned out and didn't want to do this?godawgst said:
Deboer would have resigned from Fresnp Friday night b4 Kent State Game and flew up here to lead UW out of tunnel Saturday night if that is when we would have offered him position.doogville said:I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).
So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.
We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.
How recruiting is going speaks for itself, but his success/failure will be determined by how much of a offensive minded unicorn he is, and his ability to out scheme and coach teams.
I'm at 7/8 wins for us this year, which doesn't change the narrative enough for 2024 recruiting especially if our NIL and MF programs continue as they have so far.
'It's a red flag that we hired a coach that is 110% invested in making us a winner, when he has been a winner everywhere he's been at'
-GoDawgsStupidTurd -
Yes we should have hired a burned out coach. That's exactly what I said.haie said:
So we should have hired a coach who was burned out and didn't want to do this?godawgst said:
Deboer would have resigned from Fresnp Friday night b4 Kent State Game and flew up here to lead UW out of tunnel Saturday night if that is when we would have offered him position.doogville said:I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).
So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.
We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.
How recruiting is going speaks for itself, but his success/failure will be determined by how much of a offensive minded unicorn he is, and his ability to out scheme and coach teams.
I'm at 7/8 wins for us this year, which doesn't change the narrative enough for 2024 recruiting especially if our NIL and MF programs continue as they have so far.
'It's a red flag that we hired a coach that is 110% invested in making us a winner, when he has been a winner everywhere he's been at'
-GoDawgsStupidTurd
98% of all coaches are 110% invested in making their programs winners. Awesome we hired one of them.
He's been a head coach at one location and dominated just like the guy b4 him did, and the one after him did. Fresno State not enough data to say one way or other.
After going after Campbell, why did Jen feel such a strong need to grab Deboer so quickly like we were in a bidding war? Take Matt Campbell out of the equation, and the other 4-5 candidates were #settling
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We didn’t break the bank for DeBoer. Jen sucks, but at some point they targeted DeBoer and got him. Why should it continue to be strung out? We went from the pipe dream of Stoops, to the rumors of Campbell, to DeBoer.godawgst said:
Yes we should have hired a burned out coach. That's exactly what I said.haie said:
So we should have hired a coach who was burned out and didn't want to do this?godawgst said:
Deboer would have resigned from Fresnp Friday night b4 Kent State Game and flew up here to lead UW out of tunnel Saturday night if that is when we would have offered him position.doogville said:I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).
So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.
We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.
How recruiting is going speaks for itself, but his success/failure will be determined by how much of a offensive minded unicorn he is, and his ability to out scheme and coach teams.
I'm at 7/8 wins for us this year, which doesn't change the narrative enough for 2024 recruiting especially if our NIL and MF programs continue as they have so far.
'It's a red flag that we hired a coach that is 110% invested in making us a winner, when he has been a winner everywhere he's been at'
-GoDawgsStupidTurd
98% of all coaches are 110% invested in making their programs winners. Awesome we hired one of them.
He's been a head coach at one location and dominated just like the guy b4 him did, and the one after him did. Fresno State not enough data to say one way or other.
After going after Campbell, why did Jen feel such a strong need to grab Deboer so quickly like we were in a bidding war? Take Matt Campbell out of the equation, and the other 4-5 candidates were #settling
And no, the coach before DeBoer and after DeBoer at Sioux Falls did not dominate at the same level.
The coach at Sioux Falls before Deboer had his best years with DeBoer and Morrell on staff. He also did not dominate like DeBoer did. The coach after did not dominate like DeBoer did.
I agree that Fresno State is a small sample size. He has a good coaching track record. Offenses werr better with him and worse once he left.
If you want to question whether he can recruit well enough, fair, but a good portion of your post is fiction and screams craving sizzle. -
RoadDawg55 said:
We didn’t break the bank for DeBoer. Jen sucks, but at some point they targeted DeBoer and got him. Why should it continue to be strung out? We went from the pipe dream of Stoops, to the rumors of Campbell, to DeBoer.godawgst said:
Yes we should have hired a burned out coach. That's exactly what I said.haie said:
So we should have hired a coach who was burned out and didn't want to do this?godawgst said:
Deboer would have resigned from Fresnp Friday night b4 Kent State Game and flew up here to lead UW out of tunnel Saturday night if that is when we would have offered him position.doogville said:I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).
So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.
We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.
How recruiting is going speaks for itself, but his success/failure will be determined by how much of a offensive minded unicorn he is, and his ability to out scheme and coach teams.
I'm at 7/8 wins for us this year, which doesn't change the narrative enough for 2024 recruiting especially if our NIL and MF programs continue as they have so far.
'It's a red flag that we hired a coach that is 110% invested in making us a winner, when he has been a winner everywhere he's been at'
-GoDawgsStupidTurd
98% of all coaches are 110% invested in making their programs winners. Awesome we hired one of them.
He's been a head coach at one location and dominated just like the guy b4 him did, and the one after him did. Fresno State not enough data to say one way or other.
After going after Campbell, why did Jen feel such a strong need to grab Deboer so quickly like we were in a bidding war? Take Matt Campbell out of the equation, and the other 4-5 candidates were #settling
And no, the coach before DeBoer and after DeBoer at Sioux Falls did not dominate at the same level.
The coach at Sioux Falls before Deboer had his best years with DeBoer and Morrell on staff. He also did not dominate like DeBoer did. The coach after did not dominate like DeBoer did.
I agree that Fresno State is a small sample size. He has a good coaching track record. Offenses werr better with him and worse once he left.
If you want to question whether he can recruit well enough, fair, but a good portion of your post is fiction and screams craving sizzle. </blockq
How many ppg were his offenses over the National Average at Fresno State, along with Indiana does anyone know?
Everyone can see how recruiting is going, so no need to beat that horse. -
The cynical part of me also wonders how much Tedford was recommending him so that Tedford could go back to Fresno once DeBoner left.doogville said:
This is dumb. There are 10,000 college coaches who would crawl over broken glass to be head coach at UW. Their enthusiasm for the job has little to do with whether they have the skill set to be successful.haie said:
So we should have hired a coach who was burned out and didn't want to do this?godawgst said:
Deboer would have resigned from Fresnp Friday night b4 Kent State Game and flew up here to lead UW out of tunnel Saturday night if that is when we would have offered him position.doogville said:I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).
So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.
We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.
How recruiting is going speaks for itself, but his success/failure will be determined by how much of a offensive minded unicorn he is, and his ability to out scheme and coach teams.
I'm at 7/8 wins for us this year, which doesn't change the narrative enough for 2024 recruiting especially if our NIL and MF programs continue as they have so far.
'It's a red flag that we hired a coach that is 110% invested in making us a winner, when he has been a winner everywhere he's been at'
-GoDawgsStupidTurd
We all want DeBoner to be the guy, but this attitude about how he’s some impeccable hire is really weird.
The dude spent 20 years slogging away as a complete nobody in college football — and please save me this Sioux Falls bullshit.
DeBoner has exactly one (1) year of P5 experience. And his staff of other “nobodies” (with one exception) demonstrates that.
He was available and cheap. Let’s not make more of this than it is.
Now, go win 10 games and prove all the doubters wrong. -
Recruiting isn’t even going poorly huh?
