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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,255
    EwaDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

    The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

    So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
    Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

    DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
    Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS
    Quick list here

    Positives:

    History of improvements/winning at every level

    Offensive focus

    History of leading programs

    Negatives:

    Limited P5 experience and none as a HC; P5 experience at bottom half of conference school

    Massive uptick when it comes to recruiting required

    Balance of staff came with him from G5; historically that isn’t a positive indicator

    With control of a divisional title in hand, followed up beating San Diego St by getting blown out by Boise … losing to Boise isn’t the crime … losing 40-14 with the 2nd TD coming with 1:10 remaining isn’t good
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,675 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    EwaDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

    The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

    So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
    Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

    DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
    Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS
    Quick list here

    Positives:

    History of improvements/winning at every level

    Offensive focus

    History of leading programs

    Negatives:

    Limited P5 experience and none as a HC; P5 experience at bottom half of conference school

    Massive uptick when it comes to recruiting required

    Balance of staff came with him from G5; historically that isn’t a positive indicator

    With control of a divisional title in hand, followed up beating San Diego St by getting blown out by Boise … losing to Boise isn’t the crime … losing 40-14 with the 2nd TD coming with 1:10 remaining isn’t good
    I don't watch the Mountain West unless we're playing Utah but my question is how many picks did Haener throw in their losses?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,255
    chuck said:

    EwaDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

    The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

    So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
    Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

    DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
    Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS
    I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.

    UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.
    Not interested in a war of words

    If going the G5 route for hiring DeBoer was probably the most realistic hire

    I think he’s got a lot of mileage out of almost beating Oregon and beating a relatively mediocre UCLA team … the stats in Mountain West play aren’t eye popping impressive and fall in the slightly above conference average range

    The recruiting stuff is what it is at this point … not convinced that he and his staff can’t recruit but they need to close a good class before those concerns ease

    The Boise loss last year to me is a massive red flag
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,675 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    EwaDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

    The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

    So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
    Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

    DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
    Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS
    I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.

    UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.
    Not interested in a war of words

    If going the G5 route for hiring DeBoer was probably the most realistic hire

    I think he’s got a lot of mileage out of almost beating Oregon and beating a relatively mediocre UCLA team … the stats in Mountain West play aren’t eye popping impressive and fall in the slightly above conference average range

    The recruiting stuff is what it is at this point … not convinced that he and his staff can’t recruit but they need to close a good class before those concerns ease

    The Boise loss last year to me is a massive red flag
    Bury Post
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,255

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

    The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

    So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
    Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

    DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
    There's not ton of evidence to suggest though that Campbell is more likely to win at UW than DeBoner.
    It’s always a crap shoot to be sure and past performance doesn’t guarantee future success

    But I’d bet on Campbell to provide a better opportunity for success

    Jen went bargain hunting which is largely consistent in how she runs the AD
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,675 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

    The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

    So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
    Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

    DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
    There's not ton of evidence to suggest though that Campbell is more likely to win at UW than DeBoner.
    It’s always a crap shoot to be sure and past performance doesn’t guarantee future success

    But I’d bet on Campbell to provide a better opportunity for success

    Jen went bargain hunting which is largely consistent in how she runs the AD
    Bury Post
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,675 Founders Club
    edited June 2022

    This was a historic off season for coaching changes and big money

    Reilly and Brian Kelly along with Brian Kelly left big time jobs for bigger jobs and money leaving big openings at Oklahoma and Norte Dame, midwest schools, one in the Big 12

    UW and Cohen went cheap and Matt Campbell was a pussy and stayed in Ames

    Both are true

    No one could win in Corvallis until Dennis did. No one can win at Nebraska now. Allegedly

    Winners win. DeBoer deserves a game or two to find out

    Most coaches suck including most of the options for the Huskies

    But USC was a clear winner. The best bet is steal a winner. Still not a lock but still

    Lanning probably sucks too so there's that

    SC won for sure but Lincoln "I suck at defense" Riley going to the University of "Our D sucked so bad that Beavlet butt slammed us at Home" and bringing his shitty DC is a weird move. If you're paying for Riley then protect your investment and go pay bank for someone better than that.

    You need athletes on defense which they've obtained through the transfer portal but you can't have dumbshits running it. We got Bookie rather easily because of him.

    David Woods isn't completely off predicting an 8-4 or 9-3 year for them which would take a lot of wind out of their sails.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,691
    edited June 2022
    Haie you nerd. Aren't you like my age? That shit was a PowerPoint on blackboard.com

    Who the fuck goes to the library


    Only time I ever went I can't remember the reason but several of us cheated on some online Beatles and American music course or some shit.

    Not sure why we went there. Maybe internet was out somewhere else



    Oregon state was rigorous academis
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,675 Founders Club
    edited June 2022

    Haie you nerd. Aren't you like my age? That shit was a PowerPoint on blackboard.com

    Who the fuck goes to the library


    Only time I ever went I can't remember the reason but several of us cheated on some online Beatles and American music course or some shit.

    Not sure why we went there. Maybe internet was out somewhere else



    Oregon state was rigorous academis

    I am your age I think.

    I respect the Beavlet. At least they care about practical things. Fermentation science, computer science, electrical engineering, and fermentation science.

    There were some cool roof top breweries and some other tap houses when I was there for the game.

    Regarding the library stuff: UW has the best libraries in the entire fucking world.

    Regarding Tempe when I visited, it was fucking amazing.