Beating a dead horse
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Quick list hereEwaDawg said:
Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYSTequilla said:
Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbellhaie said:
The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.Tequilla said:Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out
So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
Positives:
History of improvements/winning at every level
Offensive focus
History of leading programs
Negatives:
Limited P5 experience and none as a HC; P5 experience at bottom half of conference school
Massive uptick when it comes to recruiting required
Balance of staff came with him from G5; historically that isn’t a positive indicator
With control of a divisional title in hand, followed up beating San Diego St by getting blown out by Boise … losing to Boise isn’t the crime … losing 40-14 with the 2nd TD coming with 1:10 remaining isn’t good -
I don't watch the Mountain West unless we're playing Utah but my question is how many picks did Haener throw in their losses?Tequilla said:
Quick list hereEwaDawg said:
Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYSTequilla said:
Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbellhaie said:
The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.Tequilla said:Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out
So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
Positives:
History of improvements/winning at every level
Offensive focus
History of leading programs
Negatives:
Limited P5 experience and none as a HC; P5 experience at bottom half of conference school
Massive uptick when it comes to recruiting required
Balance of staff came with him from G5; historically that isn’t a positive indicator
With control of a divisional title in hand, followed up beating San Diego St by getting blown out by Boise … losing to Boise isn’t the crime … losing 40-14 with the 2nd TD coming with 1:10 remaining isn’t good -
Not interested in a war of wordschuck said:
I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.EwaDawg said:
Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYSTequilla said:
Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbellhaie said:
The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.Tequilla said:Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out
So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.
If going the G5 route for hiring DeBoer was probably the most realistic hire
I think he’s got a lot of mileage out of almost beating Oregon and beating a relatively mediocre UCLA team … the stats in Mountain West play aren’t eye popping impressive and fall in the slightly above conference average range
The recruiting stuff is what it is at this point … not convinced that he and his staff can’t recruit but they need to close a good class before those concerns ease
The Boise loss last year to me is a massive red flag -
Bury PostTequilla said:
Not interested in a war of wordschuck said:
I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.EwaDawg said:
Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYSTequilla said:
Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbellhaie said:
The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.Tequilla said:Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out
So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.
If going the G5 route for hiring DeBoer was probably the most realistic hire
I think he’s got a lot of mileage out of almost beating Oregon and beating a relatively mediocre UCLA team … the stats in Mountain West play aren’t eye popping impressive and fall in the slightly above conference average range
The recruiting stuff is what it is at this point … not convinced that he and his staff can’t recruit but they need to close a good class before those concerns ease
The Boise loss last year to me is a massive red flag -
It’s always a crap shoot to be sure and past performance doesn’t guarantee future successYellowSnow said:
There's not ton of evidence to suggest though that Campbell is more likely to win at UW than DeBoner.Tequilla said:
Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbellhaie said:
The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.Tequilla said:Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out
So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
But I’d bet on Campbell to provide a better opportunity for success
Jen went bargain hunting which is largely consistent in how she runs the AD -
Bury PostTequilla said:
It’s always a crap shoot to be sure and past performance doesn’t guarantee future successYellowSnow said:
There's not ton of evidence to suggest though that Campbell is more likely to win at UW than DeBoner.Tequilla said:
Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbellhaie said:
The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.Tequilla said:Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out
So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.
DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives
But I’d bet on Campbell to provide a better opportunity for success
Jen went bargain hunting which is largely consistent in how she runs the AD -
This was a historic off season for coaching changes and big money
Reilly and Brian Kelly along with Brian Kelly left big time jobs for bigger jobs and money leaving big openings at Oklahoma and Norte Dame, midwest schools, one in the Big 12
UW and Cohen went cheap and Matt Campbell was a pussy and stayed in Ames
Both are true
No one could win in Corvallis until Dennis did. No one can win at Nebraska now. Allegedly
Winners win. DeBoer deserves a game or two to find out
Most coaches suck including most of the options for the Huskies
But USC was a clear winner. The best bet is steal a winner. Still not a lock but still
Lanning probably sucks too so there's that -
SC won for sure but Lincoln "I suck at defense" Riley going to the University of "Our D sucked so bad that Beavlet butt slammed us at Home" and bringing his shitty DC is a weird move. If you're paying for Riley then protect your investment and go pay bank for someone better than that.RaceBannon said:This was a historic off season for coaching changes and big money
Reilly and Brian Kelly along with Brian Kelly left big time jobs for bigger jobs and money leaving big openings at Oklahoma and Norte Dame, midwest schools, one in the Big 12
UW and Cohen went cheap and Matt Campbell was a pussy and stayed in Ames
Both are true
No one could win in Corvallis until Dennis did. No one can win at Nebraska now. Allegedly
Winners win. DeBoer deserves a game or two to find out
Most coaches suck including most of the options for the Huskies
But USC was a clear winner. The best bet is steal a winner. Still not a lock but still
Lanning probably sucks too so there's that
You need athletes on defense which they've obtained through the transfer portal but you can't have dumbshits running it. We got Bookie rather easily because of him.
David Woods isn't completely off predicting an 8-4 or 9-3 year for them which would take a lot of wind out of their sails. -
Haie you nerd. Aren't you like my age? That shit was a PowerPoint on blackboard.com
Who the fuck goes to the library
Only time I ever went I can't remember the reason but several of us cheated on some online Beatles and American music course or some shit.
Not sure why we went there. Maybe internet was out somewhere else
Oregon state was rigorous academis -
I am your age I think.Pitchfork51 said:Haie you nerd. Aren't you like my age? That shit was a PowerPoint on blackboard.com
Who the fuck goes to the library
Only time I ever went I can't remember the reason but several of us cheated on some online Beatles and American music course or some shit.
Not sure why we went there. Maybe internet was out somewhere else
Oregon state was rigorous academis
I respect the Beavlet. At least they care about practical things. Fermentation science, computer science, electrical engineering, and fermentation science.
There were some cool roof top breweries and some other tap houses when I was there for the game.
Regarding the library stuff: UW has the best libraries in the entire fucking world.
Regarding Tempe when I visited, it was fucking amazing.



