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The only positive to Biden being prez

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    MelloDawg said:

    Odd, I don’t remember declaring my party affiliation.
    MelloDawg (K)
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 7,404

    Arguably the following are all liberals:

    @RaceBannon @MikeDamone @pawz @creepycoug @PurpleThrobber @UW_Doog_Bot @Swaye @koopdog

    Apologies to those not receiving FREE PUB! but there's a hell of a lot more to that could be mentioned. Those who are in favor of the free market, limited government intervention in one's personal life, protection of individual rights and beliefs. The *real* fiscally conservative, socially liberal mindset.


    Sounds more libertarian than liberal.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 46,162 Standard Supporter
    Goduckies said:

    Sounds more libertarian than liberal.
    Classic liberalism is more closely aligned with libertarianism than the authoritarian view of the new 'liberals'. Progressives want nothing to do with classic liberalism or libertarianism. Progressive want control over every aspect of the individual with the state being the ultimate arbiter of truth (I see you Ministry of Truth).

    The thing that keeps The Throbber from going full on libertarian is the degree of government involvement. Hardcore libertarians would argue that things like borders are unnecessary. There is also a necessary evil of governments for things like providing for the common defense, construction of large scale projects like roads, etc.



  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Goduckies said:

    Sounds more libertarian than liberal.
    Then you don’t know the definition of liberal.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,550 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    Odd, I don’t remember declaring my party affiliation.
    Comrade there is only one party!
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,981 Swaye's Wigwam
    MelloDawg said:

    Odd, I don’t remember declaring my party affiliation.

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,981 Swaye's Wigwam

    Classic liberalism is more closely aligned with libertarianism than the authoritarian view of the new 'liberals'. Progressives want nothing to do with classic liberalism or libertarianism. Progressive want control over every aspect of the individual with the state being the ultimate arbiter of truth (I see you Ministry of Truth).

    The thing that keeps The Throbber from going full on libertarian is the degree of government involvement. Hardcore libertarians would argue that things like borders are unnecessary. There is also a necessary evil of governments for things like providing for the common defense, construction of large scale projects like roads, etc.



    Obligatory.



    Our? Administration fee for doing someone else's large high risk capital project is 15%.

    Our contractors charge 10% for Administration of projects.

    What do you think the government charges?
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,415 Standard Supporter

    Obligatory.



    Our? Administration fee for doing someone else's large high risk capital project is 15%.

    Our contractors charge 10% for Administration of projects.

    What do you think the government charges?
    In Oregon, we don't build anything the public wants. I-5 is still 4 lanes in North Portland. No new bridges for autos since the early 1970s (they have replaced a couple - but no new capacity). Hundreds of millions spent on the new I-5 interstate bridge over the Columbia with no definitive "plan" yet.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 46,162 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2022

    Obligatory.



    Our? Administration fee for doing someone else's large high risk capital project is 15%.

    Our contractors charge 10% for Administration of projects.

    What do you think the government charges?
    No argument that the private sector is more economic and efficient than the public sector.

    Just haven't seen a whole lot of interstate freeway systems or Hoover Dam type projects pulled off without some form of government involvement.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,415 Standard Supporter
    Historically, I agree. But back in the day, the bureaucracy (pre-government unions) was responsive and they did have a get 'er done attitude. Today, it's just cover your ass and phone your job in. The interstate highway system was supported by almost all dems and republicans. The big construction companies and construction unions were behind it. Today, the greens throw a road block against any construction that isn't "green". Bridges for cars? Nope. Widen the highway? Nope. Build new dams? Nope.

    Fire in the hole!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LxMHmw3Z-U

    No argument that the private sector is more economic and efficient than the public sector.

    Just haven't seen a whole lot of interstate freeway systems or Hoover Dam type projects pulled off without some form of government involvement.

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,349
    Everyone on this board is a punk ass lib.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,108 Founders Club
    Biden and his voters have normalized racism so there's that
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    In Oregon, we don't build anything the public wants. I-5 is still 4 lanes in North Portland. No new bridges for autos since the early 1970s (they have replaced a couple - but no new capacity). Hundreds of millions spent on the new I-5 interstate bridge over the Columbia with no definitive "plan" yet.
    I-5 bridge configuration being argued. Bike loons want more bike lanes and sidewalks. Sounds likes Max is going to happen. No additional travel lanes but major changes to access Jantzen beach. Green loons think new plan will encourage more travel by car because it will ease congestion and that's bad. Apparently.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,981 Swaye's Wigwam

    No argument that the private sector is more economic and efficient than the public sector.

    Just haven't seen a whole lot of interstate freeway systems or Hoover Dam type projects pulled off without some form of government involvement.

    https://www.starlink.com
    Starlink

    It's also called "crowding out".
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    This isn’t about party affiliation, faggot.

    Pay attention and STFU. Your big words always reinforce your ignorance.

    Poor Mello, sticks his head up an WHACK!
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