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What is the end game?

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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,541 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Too bad Joey was napping in Delaware every weekend rather than paying attention 10 months ago to Ukraine. Then we wouldn't have gruesome vid out there of civilians trying to take out Russian tanks with molotov cocktails. F'n disgraceful. This POTUS.

    Sending Kameltoe to Munich showed Putin how disengaged the US administration was and how poorly thought out the sanctions to be imposed were and how they weren't communicated to Putin. Initially, both the US (Cho Bai Den and Kameltoe) and Germany were opposed to the banking sanctions and how they assured Putin that there would be no mobilization of the US oil and gas sector and that we would have to continue to import Russian oil. The US morons were convinced that vague "tough" language were going to do the trick.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,883

    46XiJCAB said:

    Too bad Joey was napping in Delaware every weekend rather than paying attention 10 months ago to Ukraine. Then we wouldn't have gruesome vid out there of civilians trying to take out Russian tanks with molotov cocktails. F'n disgraceful. This POTUS.

    Sending Kameltoe to Munich showed Putin how disengaged the US administration was and how poorly thought out the sanctions to be imposed were and how they weren't communicated to Putin. Initially, both the US (Cho Bai Den and Kameltoe) and Germany were opposed to the banking sanctions and how they assured Putin that there would be no mobilization of the US oil and gas sector and that we would have to continue to import Russian oil. The US morons were convinced that vague "tough" language were going to do the trick.
    The plot to make Tucker Carlson look stupid . . . er.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam
    Have we? ever stopped genocide without the entire world being involved? That covers WWI and II, but look at the others - Rwanda, Cambodia, Stalin, start naming the others - we wait them out. Then make a movie

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

    Russia is the leading culprit, we do nothing
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,541 Standard Supporter
    LebamDawg said:

    Have we? ever stopped genocide without the entire world being involved? That covers WWI and II, but look at the others - Rwanda, Cambodia, Stalin, start naming the others - we wait them out. Then make a movie

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

    Russia is the leading culprit, we do nothing

    It's not that we did nothing, we actively encouraged them with PIPs reset button, with the open mike comment that after the election barry would have more room to get his ass phucked by Putin, by sending just MREs and blankets during the Crimea invasion, by using the fake Russian collusion to take out the first President since Reagan to actually take it to Putin, and then the dementia patient indicating that a minor incursion would be okay.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited March 2022
    The entire World needs an enema right now.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

    I put the Ukrainian flag as all my profile pictures on social media. I’m making a difference!

  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,108
    Bob_C said:
    Jesus, the blue check mark brigade never fails to impress.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I put the Ukrainian flag as all my profile pictures on social media. I’m making a difference!

    @CokeGreaterThanPepsi true??!?!
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    edited March 2022
    I was crushing it back in 2013 at DHL. Gotta send that cardboard to Afghanistan by the truckload. I quit when we pulled out/back in late 2014
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    I have no idea what Putin’s end game is, and I don’t think he does either. But it’s not Ukraine.

    I don’t think that outside of some people in the CIA or Pentagon or European equivalent of those anyone understands that Putin just started his ragnarok. There’s no way back for him. It’s not a matter of will, only lack of capability.

    If anyone thinks that Putin just sacrificed this much equipment (lives are not part of the equation), money, the Russian economy, and allowed cracks in the oligarchy just to take over a large, poor country with a hostile population - think about it again.

    If I was guessing on the next step it would be Finland - or maybe Azerbaijan or the rest of Georgia or Moldova from Prednistrove. I’d guess Finland since it’s closest to his birthplace, he’s a northern forest dweller instead of a Slav and probably still harbors resentment for Mannerheim helping blockade Leningrad. His brother that Putin would never get to meet died during that siege at two years old. He might have been eaten. Finland’s parliament holds an emergency session on joining NATO and today their president is in DC meeting with the director of the CIA, so we’ll see. For what it’s worth, Finland was part of the Russian empire longer than some parts of Ukraine he has claimed. His army has looked less than impressive, but Ukraine has 8x the people, Soviet defense installations, and their soldiers had combat experience from rotating fighting the Russians for eight years.
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    ^ Russia has cut off any sources of info that are domestic and not ran by the government. Including the recent Nobel Prize winner Novaya Gazetta which has said they have been forced to delete all war related content and are no longer able to report. The Duma has passed a new law, 15 years in prison for even calling it a war instead of a special military operation let alone anything more negative than that. Educated Russians have grasped that this is it, and is where I’m finding this line of thinking.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    ^ Russia has cut off any sources of info that are domestic and not ran by the government. Including the recent Nobel Prize winner Novaya Gazetta which has said they have been forced to delete all war related content and are no longer able to report. The Duma has passed a new law, 15 years in prison for even calling it a war instead of a special military operation let alone anything more negative than that. Educated Russians have grasped that this is it, and is where I’m finding this line of thinking.

    There’s no coming back from this for Putin. Which makes me think that he knows China is going to move on Taiwan which will take some of the heat off of him. The West will get tired of the daily carnage on their tv screens and there is just no stomach for a direct confrontation with a Nuclear power.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    LebamDawg said:

    Uranians all think it could have been worse

    Yeah, at least they have the comfort of knowing white supremacy isn’t the greatest threat they face.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    I have no idea what Putin’s end game is, and I don’t think he does either. But it’s not Ukraine.

    I don’t think that outside of some people in the CIA or Pentagon or European equivalent of those anyone understands that Putin just started his ragnarok. There’s no way back for him. It’s not a matter of will, only lack of capability.

    If anyone thinks that Putin just sacrificed this much equipment (lives are not part of the equation), money, the Russian economy, and allowed cracks in the oligarchy just to take over a large, poor country with a hostile population - think about it again.

    If I was guessing on the next step it would be Finland - or maybe Azerbaijan or the rest of Georgia or Moldova from Prednistrove. I’d guess Finland since it’s closest to his birthplace, he’s a northern forest dweller instead of a Slav and probably still harbors resentment for Mannerheim helping blockade Leningrad. His brother that Putin would never get to meet died during that siege at two years old. He might have been eaten. Finland’s parliament holds an emergency session on joining NATO and today their president is in DC meeting with the director of the CIA, so we’ll see. For what it’s worth, Finland was part of the Russian empire longer than some parts of Ukraine he has claimed. His army has looked less than impressive, but Ukraine has 8x the people, Soviet defense installations, and their soldiers had combat experience from rotating fighting the Russians for eight years.

    Boris Yeltsin and Dmitry Medvedev never had to face a ranked Finland.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:
    Jesus, the blue check mark brigade never fails to impress.
    Yeah uh did they hopefully mean UN lol
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,002
    edited March 2022
    HHusky said:
    LOL! Armaments and soldiers were stationed at the border for months, increasing in size every week. Now the socialist/communist rats are covering their asses by claiming they never knew this was going to happen?

    Classic.

    Dishonest rats here and in Russia. Color me surprised.