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What is the end game?

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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    I put the Ukrainian flag as all my profile pictures on social media. I’m making a difference!

    @CokeGreaterThanPepsi true??!?!
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,089
    edited March 2022
    I was crushing it back in 2013 at DHL. Gotta send that cardboard to Afghanistan by the truckload. I quit when we pulled out/back in late 2014
  • RatherBeBrewingRatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    I have no idea what Putin’s end game is, and I don’t think he does either. But it’s not Ukraine.

    I don’t think that outside of some people in the CIA or Pentagon or European equivalent of those anyone understands that Putin just started his ragnarok. There’s no way back for him. It’s not a matter of will, only lack of capability.

    If anyone thinks that Putin just sacrificed this much equipment (lives are not part of the equation), money, the Russian economy, and allowed cracks in the oligarchy just to take over a large, poor country with a hostile population - think about it again.

    If I was guessing on the next step it would be Finland - or maybe Azerbaijan or the rest of Georgia or Moldova from Prednistrove. I’d guess Finland since it’s closest to his birthplace, he’s a northern forest dweller instead of a Slav and probably still harbors resentment for Mannerheim helping blockade Leningrad. His brother that Putin would never get to meet died during that siege at two years old. He might have been eaten. Finland’s parliament holds an emergency session on joining NATO and today their president is in DC meeting with the director of the CIA, so we’ll see. For what it’s worth, Finland was part of the Russian empire longer than some parts of Ukraine he has claimed. His army has looked less than impressive, but Ukraine has 8x the people, Soviet defense installations, and their soldiers had combat experience from rotating fighting the Russians for eight years.
  • RatherBeBrewingRatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    ^ Russia has cut off any sources of info that are domestic and not ran by the government. Including the recent Nobel Prize winner Novaya Gazetta which has said they have been forced to delete all war related content and are no longer able to report. The Duma has passed a new law, 15 years in prison for even calling it a war instead of a special military operation let alone anything more negative than that. Educated Russians have grasped that this is it, and is where I’m finding this line of thinking.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    ^ Russia has cut off any sources of info that are domestic and not ran by the government. Including the recent Nobel Prize winner Novaya Gazetta which has said they have been forced to delete all war related content and are no longer able to report. The Duma has passed a new law, 15 years in prison for even calling it a war instead of a special military operation let alone anything more negative than that. Educated Russians have grasped that this is it, and is where I’m finding this line of thinking.

    There’s no coming back from this for Putin. Which makes me think that he knows China is going to move on Taiwan which will take some of the heat off of him. The West will get tired of the daily carnage on their tv screens and there is just no stomach for a direct confrontation with a Nuclear power.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    LebamDawg said:

    Uranians all think it could have been worse

    Yeah, at least they have the comfort of knowing white supremacy isn’t the greatest threat they face.
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    I have no idea what Putin’s end game is, and I don’t think he does either. But it’s not Ukraine.

    I don’t think that outside of some people in the CIA or Pentagon or European equivalent of those anyone understands that Putin just started his ragnarok. There’s no way back for him. It’s not a matter of will, only lack of capability.

    If anyone thinks that Putin just sacrificed this much equipment (lives are not part of the equation), money, the Russian economy, and allowed cracks in the oligarchy just to take over a large, poor country with a hostile population - think about it again.

    If I was guessing on the next step it would be Finland - or maybe Azerbaijan or the rest of Georgia or Moldova from Prednistrove. I’d guess Finland since it’s closest to his birthplace, he’s a northern forest dweller instead of a Slav and probably still harbors resentment for Mannerheim helping blockade Leningrad. His brother that Putin would never get to meet died during that siege at two years old. He might have been eaten. Finland’s parliament holds an emergency session on joining NATO and today their president is in DC meeting with the director of the CIA, so we’ll see. For what it’s worth, Finland was part of the Russian empire longer than some parts of Ukraine he has claimed. His army has looked less than impressive, but Ukraine has 8x the people, Soviet defense installations, and their soldiers had combat experience from rotating fighting the Russians for eight years.

    Boris Yeltsin and Dmitry Medvedev never had to face a ranked Finland.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,876

    Bob_C said:
    Jesus, the blue check mark brigade never fails to impress.
    Yeah uh did they hopefully mean UN lol
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,190 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2022
    HHusky said:
    LOL! Armaments and soldiers were stationed at the border for months, increasing in size every week. Now the socialist/communist rats are covering their asses by claiming they never knew this was going to happen?

    Classic.

    Dishonest rats here and in Russia. Color me surprised.
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