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What The $#8@! happened to you?

hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
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I thought that being liberal meant having values that cared about individual freedom and liberty. I thought being liberal meant we cared about governments and corporations having too much power. I thought it meant giving a voice to the voiceless, taking unpopular stances and even siding with those who you hated if their rights were being trampled.

Today apparently this is what it means:


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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,254 Founders Club
    @TheKobeStopper
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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    hardhat said:

    I thought that being liberal meant having values that cared about individual freedom and liberty. I thought being liberal meant we cared about governments and corporations having too much power. I thought it meant giving a voice to the voiceless, taking unpopular stances and even siding with those who you hated if their rights were being trampled.

    Today apparently this is what it means:


    @Kobe. @MellowDawg.
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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,254 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    hardhat said:

    I thought that being liberal meant having values that cared about individual freedom and liberty. I thought being liberal meant we cared about governments and corporations having too much power. I thought it meant giving a voice to the voiceless, taking unpopular stances and even siding with those who you hated if their rights were being trampled.

    Today apparently this is what it means:


    @Kobe. @MellowDawg.
    53 seconds


    @PurpleBaze
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,244 Standard Supporter
    MikeDamone said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Copypasta?
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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,611
    They got old and evil obv
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    WestlinnDuck said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,126 Founders Club
    MikeDamone said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    What's a conservative?
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    RoadTrip said:

    MikeDamone said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    What's a conservative?
    A classical liberal that’s uncomfortable with how conservative they’ve gotten in old age.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022
    TheKobeStopper said:

    RoadTrip said:

    MikeDamone said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    What's a conservative?
    A classical liberal that’s uncomfortable with how conservative they’ve gotten in old age.
    Dim bulb heard from.

    You didn’t even know what classical liberalism is until 10 minutes ago and since then all you know is what is in Wikipedia.
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  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    What's a progressive?
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?




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  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    TheKobeStopper said:

    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?




    copypasta?
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  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    These are progressives



    Progressives can also be found demanding kids to be masked, schools to be closed, police departments to be defunded, asking for all crimes under $1000 to be unprosecutable, and doing fun things like dressing up in black and trying to harass former chief of police of Seattle Carmen Best at her home. Just a lovable, smart bunch of folks with all the good ideas.
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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    TheKobeStopper said:

    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?




    Obama fixed this with the ACA. Move on. The Messiah worked his magic.
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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    hardhat said:

    These are progressives



    Progressives can also be found demanding kids to be masked, schools to be closed, police departments to be defunded, asking for all crimes under $1000 to be unprosecutable, and doing fun things like dressing up in black and trying to harass former chief of police of Seattle Carmen Best at her home. Just a lovable, smart bunch of folks with all the good ideas.
    It requires a special kind of gullible fool to believe any of those people on the street want to be anywhere where they have to obey rules.
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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,126 Founders Club
    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?

    A progressive is a Marxist. I guess my take on a classical liberal is someone who had issues with governments imposing their wills upon people. I would say these people questioned authority in general. Most of them believed people were free to live their lives as they chose. However, over time, many of these people stopped questioning the expanse and largesse of government. I'm sure I've missed additional characteristics but I'd like someone to define a conservative.
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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,126 Founders Club
    hardhat said:

    These are progressives



    Progressives can also be found demanding kids to be masked, schools to be closed, police departments to be defunded, asking for all crimes under $1000 to be unprosecutable, and doing fun things like dressing up in black and trying to harass former chief of police of Seattle Carmen Best at her home. Just a lovable, smart bunch of folks with all the good ideas.
    So Marxists
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