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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited February 2022
    Ukraine is important because of our military basis there. They are within missile range of China. If Russia takes Ukraine, then China has little threat to take Taiwan.
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Sources said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    The Ukrainians have the goods on Joe Crackpipe. He didn’t give a shit about them when Barry was his boss. Now we’re told Democracy is in peril if we don’t jump in. Ukraine isn’t a democracy. FWIW.

    It is, actually. Imagine my surprise at you saying otherwise, Boris.
    Wrong, again. At best, it's loosely a parliamentary republic, where the President is just this side of dictator. Even if Ukraine called its government a democracy (which it doesn't), that's in name only.

    Finally, preemptive fuck off before you go full-on CNNtard: I'm married to a Ukrainian and speak with people that live/lived there on a daily basis.
    BuT tHeY hAvE eLeCtIoNs!
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    greenblood said:

    Ukraine is important because of our military basis there. They are within missile range of China. If Russia takes Ukraine, then China has little threat to take Taiwan.

    Huh? Submarines do that role better.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    Imagine this whole board being to the Left of @HHusky on the issue of war.

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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,487 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    I’m sure this has already been tossed but when the fuck did Ukraine joint NATO?

    Biden gave Putin the invitation with his absurd “just the tip” comments.

    Putin obliged the old fuck, knowing that Joe has no recourse one way or the other, but it remains extremely dubious that he really wants to take that bite.

    And now everyone is talking about what are we gonna do when Russia invades a country that isn’t a part of our treaty and doesn’t think it’s gonna happen anyway instead of talking about our southern border, crippling inflation, and China-exported Covid.

    This is a win for Biden, a win for Putin, a win for China, and a loss for anyone who gives a shit about what’s happening within and around our borders.

    War drums….LMAO. We gave Vlad his pipeline and cut our own balls off in the process. Don’t give me that shit about war drums.

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    WestlinnDuck said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    Because Europe has a strong track record when shit hits the fan?
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    The only reason we have to defend Ukraine is that we forbid them pursuing Nukes with the promise that we would have their backs should Russia invade them.
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  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    Methinks, when the USSR broke apart, Ukraine had some nuclear weapons of the USSR still in their newly established country.

    Ukraine transferred the nukes out of their country to the USSR with NATO and our promise that we would come to their aid if they were attacked by Russia.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Come watch HHusky struggle in every thread.
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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,176 Standard Supporter
    Ask yourselves one question and one question only: Do you believe that biden or anyone associated with him and this fucked up administration is capable of leading us in a war?
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