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So what’s the point of Ukraine?

PurpleThrobber
PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038
edited February 2022 in Tug Tavern


If Putin isn’t going in and the Ukrainians aren’t altogether worried, why is the US stoking the narrative of WW 3?

Kamala just used the phrase “on the edge of a world war’.

Why?



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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Does the potted plant in the WH know what’s happening or will he catch up sometime on Tuesday.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,785 Swaye's Wigwam
    mid term elections is why the Ukraine is important
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897



    If Putin isn’t going in and the Ukrainians aren’t altogether worried, why is the US stoking the narrative of WW 3?

    Kamala just used the phrase “on the edge of a world war’.

    Why?



    So “Party of Reagan” isn’t a thing anymore.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038
    HHusky said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    Ukraine isn't in NATO.

    There is no obligation to get involved in Ukraine other than to save Hunter's ass.

  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    The Ukrainians have the goods on Joe Crackpipe. He didn’t give a shit about them when Barry was his boss. Now we’re told Democracy is in peril if we don’t jump in. Ukraine isn’t a democracy. FWIW.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    HHusky said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    Ukraine isn't in NATO.

    There is no obligation to get involved in Ukraine other than to save Hunter's ass.

    No one said Ukraine is in NATO, madam.

    We and our NATO allies are however. NATO isn’t as indifferent to this as you gals.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    Ukraine isn't in NATO.

    There is no obligation to get involved in Ukraine other than to save Hunter's ass.

    No one said Ukraine is in NATO, madam.

    We and our NATO allies are however. NATO isn’t as indifferent to this as you gals.
    Fuck off, misogynist.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    46XiJCAB said:

    The Ukrainians have the goods on Joe Crackpipe. He didn’t give a shit about them when Barry was his boss. Now we’re told Democracy is in peril if we don’t jump in. Ukraine isn’t a democracy. FWIW.

    It is, actually. Imagine my surprise at you saying otherwise, Boris.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    Ukraine isn't in NATO.

    There is no obligation to get involved in Ukraine other than to save Hunter's ass.

    No one said Ukraine is in NATO, madam.

    We and our NATO allies are however. NATO isn’t as indifferent to this as you gals.
    War Hawk. How many dead Americans will satisfy you in order to cover Hunter’s and Joey’s asses?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    What do we get out of an alliance with Ukraine?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited February 2022
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    What do we get out of an alliance with Ukraine?
    Joey and Hunter’s shenanigans stay a state secret. Until the next time.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    Ukraine isn't in NATO.

    There is no obligation to get involved in Ukraine other than to save Hunter's ass.

    No one said Ukraine is in NATO, madam.

    We and our NATO allies are however. NATO isn’t as indifferent to this as you gals.
    We?
    Let's see you lay out your foreign policy expertise. Is it super important to expand NATO to Ukraine right now? Historically, we said we wouldn't expand. If we are worried about WW3, shouldn't we ratchet tensions down?
  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,599 Swaye's Wigwam
    I don't want Russia dictating which country can or cannot be a part of NATO. Putin wants the old USSR back in place- I don't think that would be good for anyone but Putin.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    The Ukrainians have the goods on Joe Crackpipe. He didn’t give a shit about them when Barry was his boss. Now we’re told Democracy is in peril if we don’t jump in. Ukraine isn’t a democracy. FWIW.

    It is, actually. Imagine my surprise at you saying otherwise, Boris.
    By Ukrainian standards.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,146 Founders Club
    HHusky said:



    If Putin isn’t going in and the Ukrainians aren’t altogether worried, why is the US stoking the narrative of WW 3?

    Kamala just used the phrase “on the edge of a world war’.

    Why?



    So “Party of Reagan” isn’t a thing anymore.
    Eat shit
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited February 2022
    Ukraine is important because of our military basis there. They are within missile range of China. If Russia takes Ukraine, then China has little threat to take Taiwan.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Sources said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    The Ukrainians have the goods on Joe Crackpipe. He didn’t give a shit about them when Barry was his boss. Now we’re told Democracy is in peril if we don’t jump in. Ukraine isn’t a democracy. FWIW.

    It is, actually. Imagine my surprise at you saying otherwise, Boris.
    Wrong, again. At best, it's loosely a parliamentary republic, where the President is just this side of dictator. Even if Ukraine called its government a democracy (which it doesn't), that's in name only.

    Finally, preemptive fuck off before you go full-on CNNtard: I'm married to a Ukrainian and speak with people that live/lived there on a daily basis.
    BuT tHeY hAvE eLeCtIoNs!
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Ukraine is important because of our military basis there. They are within missile range of China. If Russia takes Ukraine, then China has little threat to take Taiwan.

    Huh? Submarines do that role better.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    Imagine this whole board being to the Left of @HHusky on the issue of war.

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,220 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    We have alliances with “the Euros”.

    It was in all the newspapers.
    I’m sure this has already been tossed but when the fuck did Ukraine joint NATO?

    Biden gave Putin the invitation with his absurd “just the tip” comments.

    Putin obliged the old fuck, knowing that Joe has no recourse one way or the other, but it remains extremely dubious that he really wants to take that bite.

    And now everyone is talking about what are we gonna do when Russia invades a country that isn’t a part of our treaty and doesn’t think it’s gonna happen anyway instead of talking about our southern border, crippling inflation, and China-exported Covid.

    This is a win for Biden, a win for Putin, a win for China, and a loss for anyone who gives a shit about what’s happening within and around our borders.

    War drums….LMAO. We gave Vlad his pipeline and cut our own balls off in the process. Don’t give me that shit about war drums.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    What still frosts my ass is that Germany has an economy 3 times that of Russia, the UK 2 times and France almost twice as large also. Why the phuck is the Ukraine our problem? Let the Euros deal with it.

    Because Europe has a strong track record when shit hits the fan?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    The only reason we have to defend Ukraine is that we forbid them pursuing Nukes with the promise that we would have their backs should Russia invade them.
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    Methinks, when the USSR broke apart, Ukraine had some nuclear weapons of the USSR still in their newly established country.

    Ukraine transferred the nukes out of their country to the USSR with NATO and our promise that we would come to their aid if they were attacked by Russia.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Come watch HHusky struggle in every thread.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,006 Standard Supporter
    Ask yourselves one question and one question only: Do you believe that biden or anyone associated with him and this fucked up administration is capable of leading us in a war?