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Courtney Morgan (future Doog Legend candidate) finally coming to terms with UW recruiting

bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,239
in Chuck's Fisch Bowl (Recruiting)
Recent posts highlighting the "stars don't matter", "emptmann was a 2-star" and "we want guys we can develop" mentality is a little ominous



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  • Mad_SonMad_Son Member Posts: 10,176
    I am on board with the mindset that it's what you do that matters, not the number of stars you come in with.
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  • SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,981 Founders Club
    The irony is most of those guys were on shitty college teams
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  • MotrboatnsobMotrboatnsob Member Posts: 424
    Basically preparing everyone for more 3 star development.
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  • Fear_BonerFear_Boner Member Posts: 790
    He’s right. Let’s just recruit guys that will be NFL stars.
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  • DougDoug Member Posts: 40
    Fear_Boner said:

    He’s right. Let’s just recruit guys that will be NFL stars.

    It’s all so simple? Nevermind The 100 3stars that did nothing for each of those guys. I’m sure he knows how to only get the 1% that pan out
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  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    look at the offers lmao. It's majority 4 and 5 stars.
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  • Fear_BonerFear_Boner Member Posts: 790
    Doug said:

    Fear_Boner said:

    He’s right. Let’s just recruit guys that will be NFL stars.

    It’s all so simple? Nevermind The 100 3stars that did nothing for each of those guys. I’m sure he knows how to only get the 1% that pan out
    Doug sees the light.
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  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,483 Swaye's Wigwam
    The whole you there's some 2 stars and shit that can be turned into NFL stars narrative is a dead Horse that's been picked away by vultures and is now a skeleton bleached in the sun. The majority of the guys in the NFL right now are a bunch of big time recruits who played at Alabama, LSU, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Georgia.
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  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,239
    DerekJohnson said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    theknowledge said:

    Mad_Son said:

    I am on board with the mindset that it's what you do that matters, not the number of stars you come in with.

    I was done with stars when after UW “leveled up” they won 8 and 4 games. The west coast is under evaluated. Find good players and plug them into a solid program that is built on development. Don Butler, Mason Foster, Kevin King, BBK, Azeem Victor, Greg Gaines, Jaylon Johnson. Find guys like this and go to war with them.
    We aren’t going to sign top 5-10 classes. It’s all about evaluating and developing. The coaches have to close the guys that they want. So far, our staff seems competent, organized, and gives effort on the trail.
    If we finish 15th every year in recruiting rankings but work really hard in development, that'd be fine with me
    I'd be fine with that too. Right now it looks like a major uphill battle to get there though. USC and Oregon are bringing in huge groups of top end talent this weekend and next for visits. UW is bringing in a small handful of "high upside" kids, some punters and kickers, and a few guys with PWO offers from other schools.
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  • bluechipuwrecruitsbluechipuwrecruits Member Posts: 394
    Not getting visits from top end talent isn’t encouraging but it’s still early.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,496 Standard Supporter
    DerekJohnson said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    theknowledge said:

    Mad_Son said:

    I am on board with the mindset that it's what you do that matters, not the number of stars you come in with.

    I was done with stars when after UW “leveled up” they won 8 and 4 games. The west coast is under evaluated. Find good players and plug them into a solid program that is built on development. Don Butler, Mason Foster, Kevin King, BBK, Azeem Victor, Greg Gaines, Jaylon Johnson. Find guys like this and go to war with them.
    We aren’t going to sign top 5-10 classes. It’s all about evaluating and developing. The coaches have to close the guys that they want. So far, our staff seems competent, organized, and gives effort on the trail.
    If we finish 15th every year in recruiting rankings but work really harder than ever in development, that'd be fine with me
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  • Neighbor2972Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,310
    backthepack said:

    look at the offers lmao. It's majority 4 and 5 stars.

    Yeah IDGAF about what they say, its about what they do. When Petersen was recruiting top 10 classes he was still saying he didn't care about stars.

    90% of recruits aren't 4/5*s and probably want to hear that stars don't matter
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  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    WoolleyDoog said:

    The whole you there's some 2 stars and shit that can be turned into NFL stars narrative is a dead Horse that's been picked away by vultures and is now a skeleton bleached in the sun. The majority of the guys in the NFL right now are a bunch of big time recruits who played at Alabama, LSU, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Georgia.

    Some
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  • chuckchuck Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,999 Swaye's Wigwam
    People jeep pointing at this collapse and the higher rated recruiting classes coinciding as though there is a cause and effect. There isn't. The 18-20 classes would be benefitting UW right now if they had been coached.

    Coaches target the guys they want most first, and those are always going to be primarily 4* and 5* players at UW. Landing them doesn't drive the program off a cliff. Running it like UW does though.
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  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,728 Swaye's Wigwam
    bananasnblondes said:

    Recent posts highlighting the "stars don't matter", "emptmann was a 2-star" and "we want guys we can develop" mentality is a little ominous



    Stars are assigned when kids are 15 or 16, so there's plenty of time for kids to continue to grow, develop, learn, and appreciate the game as they get older.

    To me, the most important thing is getting a full class every year and being able to trim the fat with kids that can portal to lower schools when they ride the bench. Getting as many opportunities to see who develops and who doesn't is probably the best way to build a team with depth.
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  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,739 Standard Supporter
    Did any of those guys do anything significant in college (other than Burrow obviously). Axing seriously.

    It’s cool they’re great NFL players. Morgan’s job is to find great college players.
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