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HHusky said:

hardhat said:

"Schools have a ton less to do with kids’ achievement in school than parents and upbringing."

also
"I demand that you teach my kid AP History'
brave and smart.

I'll cop to elitist snob.

You're not elite and have nothing to be snobby about. You're still in the early phases of grief, so I'm gonna let you put in the work.

hardhat said:

HHusky said:

hardhat said:

"Schools have a ton less to do with kids’ achievement in school than parents and upbringing."

also
"I demand that you teach my kid AP History'
brave and smart.

I'll cop to elitist snob.

You're not elite and have nothing to be snobby about. You're still in the early phases of grief, so I'm gonna let you put in the work.

grief?

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

WestlinnDuck said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

I'll bet you $500 that what few white kids who do attend the Detroit public schools, still outperform the black kids.

"White kids are better", argues blob. That's just odd . . . or worse. You could just pull up the report on that computer thingy you're typing on.

You would win the bet though. I believe an entire10% of Detroit whites were found to be proficient in math. The "achievement gap" is 3%. Almost the same gap as between Seattle blacks and Aurora, Colorado whites.

White kids are much more likely to have two parents. Another argument that leftards love to ignore.

Now we're getting somewhere. Single parenting is something you want the schools to fix, Gasbag?

No, we could start with our welfare policies, that you support, that encourage people to have kids out of wedlock. We could also go back to creating a social stigma against having kids out of wedlock that is at least as strong, as it is against smoking or calling someone a "fag."

So everything isn't really up to the schools.

Glad we could find this point of agreement.

I've never said that, nor have I ever thought it. But you have said that our welfare policies aren't responsible in anyway for the rise in illegitmacy, and that you wouldn't support stigmatizing out of wedlock births, despite the fact that you did exactly that with your own kids.

I’ve never made the first statement you attribute to me. As for stigma, just how much stigma do you want illegitimate children to face?

Well you either have alzheimers or you're just a pathological liar. Since I already know that you're a pathological liar, I'll go with that. And your strawman ass fuck of a "question" is duly noted.

blob: “But you have said that our welfare policies aren't responsible in anyway for the rise in illegitmacy,”

Unmitigated bullshit. Not remotely something I have ever said.

Pitchfork51 said:

Traditional education essentially being slowly destroyed by the internet has given a rise to super miserable disgruntled teachers that believed they were owed an amazing life for taking an easy and dying career

A teacher's biggest problem is they have no ability to discipline the classroom and their Union overlords have no intention of doing so and have rolled over for the leftard's view that discipline is a white concept and can't be applied to minority students. Teaching an AP class in West Linn is a piece of cake. Teaching a remedial reading class at Jefferson in North Portland would be a living hell. Just keep your head on a swivel and max out your sick days and wait for summer vacation. Now where do you think the better teachers want to be? West Linn/Lake Oswego or Felony Flats in Southeast Portland?

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

WestlinnDuck said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

I'll bet you $500 that what few white kids who do attend the Detroit public schools, still outperform the black kids.

"White kids are better", argues blob. That's just odd . . . or worse. You could just pull up the report on that computer thingy you're typing on.

You would win the bet though. I believe an entire10% of Detroit whites were found to be proficient in math. The "achievement gap" is 3%. Almost the same gap as between Seattle blacks and Aurora, Colorado whites.

White kids are much more likely to have two parents. Another argument that leftards love to ignore.

Now we're getting somewhere. Single parenting is something you want the schools to fix, Gasbag?

No, we could start with our welfare policies, that you support, that encourage people to have kids out of wedlock. We could also go back to creating a social stigma against having kids out of wedlock that is at least as strong, as it is against smoking or calling someone a "fag."

So everything isn't really up to the schools.

Glad we could find this point of agreement.

I've never said that, nor have I ever thought it. But you have said that our welfare policies aren't responsible in anyway for the rise in illegitmacy, and that you wouldn't support stigmatizing out of wedlock births, despite the fact that you did exactly that with your own kids.

I’ve never made the first statement you attribute to me. As for stigma, just how much stigma do you want illegitimate children to face?

Well you either have alzheimers or you're just a pathological liar. Since I already know that you're a pathological liar, I'll go with that. And your strawman ass fuck of a "question" is duly noted.

blob: “But you have said that our welfare policies aren't responsible in anyway for the rise in illegitmacy,”

Unmitigated bullshit. Not remotely something I have ever said.

Sorry, you're just a liar. You and I had a long back and forth of this. Your position was that Great Society welfare programs that were established in the 60s weren't responsible for the explosion of out of wedlock births because OWBs were already increasing prior to the passage of the Great Society.

You're now just flat out lying Dazzler.

WestlinnDuck said:

Pitchfork51 said:

Traditional education essentially being slowly destroyed by the internet has given a rise to super miserable disgruntled teachers that believed they were owed an amazing life for taking an easy and dying career

A teacher's biggest problem is they have no ability to discipline the classroom and their Union overlords have no intention of doing so and have rolled over for the leftard's view that discipline is a white concept and can't be applied to minority students. Teaching an AP class in West Linn is a piece of cake. Teaching a remedial reading class at Jefferson in North Portland would be a living hell. Just keep your head on a swivel and max out your sick days and wait for summer vacation. Now where do you think the better teachers want to be? West Linn/Lake Oswego or Felony Flats in Southeast Portland?

What about teachers that are "here, Chicana, and pissed off?"

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

WestlinnDuck said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

I'll bet you $500 that what few white kids who do attend the Detroit public schools, still outperform the black kids.

"White kids are better", argues blob. That's just odd . . . or worse. You could just pull up the report on that computer thingy you're typing on.

You would win the bet though. I believe an entire10% of Detroit whites were found to be proficient in math. The "achievement gap" is 3%. Almost the same gap as between Seattle blacks and Aurora, Colorado whites.

White kids are much more likely to have two parents. Another argument that leftards love to ignore.

Now we're getting somewhere. Single parenting is something you want the schools to fix, Gasbag?

No, we could start with our welfare policies, that you support, that encourage people to have kids out of wedlock. We could also go back to creating a social stigma against having kids out of wedlock that is at least as strong, as it is against smoking or calling someone a "fag."

So everything isn't really up to the schools.

Glad we could find this point of agreement.

I've never said that, nor have I ever thought it. But you have said that our welfare policies aren't responsible in anyway for the rise in illegitmacy, and that you wouldn't support stigmatizing out of wedlock births, despite the fact that you did exactly that with your own kids.

I’ve never made the first statement you attribute to me. As for stigma, just how much stigma do you want illegitimate children to face?

Well you either have alzheimers or you're just a pathological liar. Since I already know that you're a pathological liar, I'll go with that. And your strawman ass fuck of a "question" is duly noted.

blob: “But you have said that our welfare policies aren't responsible in anyway for the rise in illegitmacy,”

Unmitigated bullshit. Not remotely something I have ever said.

Sorry, you're just a liar. You and I had a long back and forth of this. Your position was that Great Society welfare programs that were established in the 60s weren't responsible for the explosion of out of wedlock births because OWBs were already increasing prior to the passage of the Great Society.

You're now just flat out lying Dazzler.

OWBs were already increasing prior to the Great Society. But in no way shape or form did I say welfare policies have nothing to do with the issue.

Packaging a morsel of truth within your lies is how we know you're lying intentionally.

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

WestlinnDuck said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

I'll bet you $500 that what few white kids who do attend the Detroit public schools, still outperform the black kids.

"White kids are better", argues blob. That's just odd . . . or worse. You could just pull up the report on that computer thingy you're typing on.

You would win the bet though. I believe an entire10% of Detroit whites were found to be proficient in math. The "achievement gap" is 3%. Almost the same gap as between Seattle blacks and Aurora, Colorado whites.

White kids are much more likely to have two parents. Another argument that leftards love to ignore.

Now we're getting somewhere. Single parenting is something you want the schools to fix, Gasbag?

No, we could start with our welfare policies, that you support, that encourage people to have kids out of wedlock. We could also go back to creating a social stigma against having kids out of wedlock that is at least as strong, as it is against smoking or calling someone a "fag."

So everything isn't really up to the schools.

Glad we could find this point of agreement.

I've never said that, nor have I ever thought it. But you have said that our welfare policies aren't responsible in anyway for the rise in illegitmacy, and that you wouldn't support stigmatizing out of wedlock births, despite the fact that you did exactly that with your own kids.

I’ve never made the first statement you attribute to me. As for stigma, just how much stigma do you want illegitimate children to face?

Well you either have alzheimers or you're just a pathological liar. Since I already know that you're a pathological liar, I'll go with that. And your strawman ass fuck of a "question" is duly noted.

blob: “But you have said that our welfare policies aren't responsible in anyway for the rise in illegitmacy,”

Unmitigated bullshit. Not remotely something I have ever said.

Sorry, you're just a liar. You and I had a long back and forth of this. Your position was that Great Society welfare programs that were established in the 60s weren't responsible for the explosion of out of wedlock births because OWBs were already increasing prior to the passage of the Great Society.

You're now just flat out lying Dazzler.

OWBs were already increasing prior to the Great Society. But in no way shape or form did I say welfare policies have nothing to do with the issue.

Packaging a morsel of truth within your lies is how we know you're lying intentionally.

Sad, I know it’s hard to believe but there was a time when the Dazzler wasn’t a worthless lying piece of shit. But that time was a long, long time ago.

@RaceBannon was there????