OFFICIAL 2021- 22 Ski Season Thread
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Brand new Tudor. No skiing in years. Sad.BleachedAnusDawg said:7 inches at the house. Sledding is great. Haven't been able to ski for a few seasons and I might be desperate enough to do some cross country around the hood this afternoon.
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11 inches here (heyooooo!). Drunk backyard snow-biking was amazing last night. Grippiest snow I've ever ridden in!
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Very sad. I'll be back up with regularity once the oldest kid can go with me for lessons.YellowSnow said:
Brand new Tudor. No skiing in years. Sad.BleachedAnusDawg said:7 inches at the house. Sledding is great. Haven't been able to ski for a few seasons and I might be desperate enough to do some cross country around the hood this afternoon.
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No kidding, Jimmy Lake must be their new GM. They're having "epic" snow fall for late December, and Vail hasn't hired enough staff to open Big Chief, Tye Mill, and the entire backside. Completely blew what'll end up being one of the best stretches of the season.pawz said:
Got myself up to Crystal yesterday for my birff. Snow was fantastic for this tim of year. It looks like it's going to continue to dump the next few days - according to the Powder Poohbah.YellowSnow said:Finally up to a 50
Inch base at Mt White Wakanda. Plenty more on the way and about to be cold as fuck.
Got lil piss 2.0 up on skis for the first time. 4 years and 3 months
Unfortunately it looks like I flushed away $600 on my season pass at Stevens. I can't tolerate the complete mismanagement of that resort. All the social medias are saying things went from terrible (last year) to worse (this year).
Sad. I loved that place.
The bland corporate response is to point the finger at covid, but every other nearby resort has managed to navigate the labor issue and operate at 100%. -
My dance worked it appears. I accept payment in beads or dick pics.YellowSnow said:
Lotta backcountry knuckle heads out there.pawz said:
In other news Yella had to fire up the snow blower this AM.
Bachelor has received 3 feet in the past 72 hrs. -
You guys are fags.
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I’ve sent enough wife pics.Swaye said:
My dance worked it appears. I accept payment in beads or dick pics.YellowSnow said:
Lotta backcountry knuckle heads out there.pawz said:
In other news Yella had to fire up the snow blower this AM.
Bachelor has received 3 feet in the past 72 hrs. -
Summit chair is still closed. No above tree line stuff yet.PurpleThrobber said:
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What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/ -
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
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Watch out where the Huskies go.pawz said:In the Alpental porking lot, I christened a spot in @YellowSnow's honor. On the right.
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I hope the AG goes after Vail.pawz said:
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
I have a very close fren who was a Director at Stevens for many years.
What they did to that place is criminal. -
The fine-print of the Season pass basically says they can take your money and fuck you for whatever reason.YellowSnow said:
I hope the AG goes after Vail.pawz said:
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
I have a very close fren who was a Director at Stevens for many years.
What they did to that place is criminal.
However the implied agreement is that you own the risk of weather, injury and time/ability to ride. They own the responsibility of operating the mountain at full, advertised capacity. Everybody understands that once in awhile - even a handful of times per season - the weather gods say fuck you.
But adding labor is a simple equation. You need to do what it takes to attract bodies. Based on their history of dealing with labor the last 3 years, they simply WON'T do what it takes.
All while sitting on $1.2 BILLION in cash.
When you can work at the McDonalds in Sultan for $18.75/hr and save the 40-minute drive both directions extra for $15/hr, I don't blame anyone for sending Vail the #1-salute.
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I would love to hear any of the inside details you can share. And the ones you can't, PM @pawz.YellowSnow said:
I hope the AG goes after Vail.pawz said:
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
I have a very close fren who was a Director at Stevens for many years.
What they did to that place is criminal.
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JFC. This is an INSANE, MASSIVE controlled avy today at Crystal. As I understand it wiped out an entire run and made a new one with the trees demolished.
The break point at the top is taller than ski patrol (see photo). Speculated to take away all the snow since November.
Disappointing they didn't record any video for this one. -
I will post a summary soon. Nothing is confidential.pawz said:
I would love to hear any of the inside details you can share. And the ones you can't, PM @pawz.YellowSnow said:
I hope the AG goes after Vail.pawz said:
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
I have a very close fren who was a Director at Stevens for many years.
What they did to that place is criminal.
Seriously fuck Vail and fuck Altera. They are ruining skiing every where.
There was no parking issue at Crystal pre Ikon pass BTW.
https://www.parkrecord.com/opinion/columns/tom-clyde-this-is-the-year-we-broke-it/ -
Not many avalanches at Bachelor. Too low angle.pawz said:JFC. This is an INSANE, MASSIVE controlled avy today at Crystal. As I understand it wiped out an entire run and made a new one with the trees demolished.
The break point at the top is taller than ski patrol (see photo). Speculated to take away all the snow since November.
Disappointing they didn't record any video for this one.
But Tree Well danger is extreme. I made frens in the porking lot with some UW grads today and found the goods. Both ex patrollers to save me. Good powder was had. -
I quit going to Stevens 5 years back, prior to not being able to do much of any skiing in general. The place is so mismanaged. Parking became a complete disaster, lines were horrendous, etc. I'd rather go to a smaller mountain like White than deal with the places that are run by the mega corps.YellowSnow said:
I hope the AG goes after Vail.pawz said:
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
I have a very close fren who was a Director at Stevens for many years.
What they did to that place is criminal. -
ROE ruins skiing always. Iron Law.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I quit going to Stevens 5 years back, prior to not being able to do much of any skiing in general. The place is so mismanaged. Parking became a complete disaster, lines were horrendous, etc. I'd rather go to a smaller mountain like White than deal with the places that are run by the mega corps.YellowSnow said:
I hope the AG goes after Vail.pawz said:
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
I have a very close fren who was a Director at Stevens for many years.
What they did to that place is criminal.
Go fuck yourself finance bored fags. -
I would love to know how this came about. Was he enlisted or did he volunteer? Obviously it's early - and Vail NEEDS TO FUCKING SHOW ME - but this seems like a fantastic first step.
https://www.facebook.com/stevenspass/photos/a.118373430597/10158242058850598/
Stevens Pass
A Letter from the new Interim General Manager of Stevens Pass
Stevens Pass Community,
I am glad to be coming home, even if just temporarily, to support this period of transition at Stevens Pass.
I grew up at Stevens Pass and my ski career started here, too. My three boys have grown up at this mountain and also call it home. I worked my way through the ranks for 20 years, ultimately leaving in 1999, having served as Director of Operations. Since then, I have been lucky enough to manage a number of amazing resorts across the western United States, gaining new insight and experience along the way. This includes time at Schweitzer Mountain in Idaho as GM, followed by moving to the Tahoe area in 2010, where I’ve held several senior operations roles at both Heavenly and Kirkwood. In 2016, I proudly became the GM of Kirkwood, and three years later, I began serving in my current role as GM at Heavenly.
I understand how special Stevens Pass is. I also know many of you are frustrated – and we’ve heard you. I’m taking an interim GM assignment here to support operational improvement, work towards getting the mountain open as quickly and safely as possible, and to positively change your experience with us.
Stevens Pass is a complex operation...it always has been. That means change will not happen overnight, but I am committed to securing both short-term wins and outlining a long-term roadmap of improvement. With that in mind, I am committed to communicating often, and with transparency.
My history and passion may be relevant, but what really matters today is moving forward.
I am excited to reconnect with friends from the past, and to make new ones on the hill. And most importantly, we want to see SPKA!
See you on the mountain,
Tom Fortune
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The previous GM was a “sales and marketing” GM from Colorado. Not an ops guy. At Stevens more than anywhere you need an ops GM.pawz said:I would love to know how this came about. Was he enlisted or did he volunteer? Obviously it's early - and Vail NEEDS TO FUCKING SHOW ME - but this seems like a fantastic first step.
https://www.facebook.com/stevenspass/photos/a.118373430597/10158242058850598/
Stevens Pass
A Letter from the new Interim General Manager of Stevens Pass
Stevens Pass Community,
I am glad to be coming home, even if just temporarily, to support this period of transition at Stevens Pass.
I grew up at Stevens Pass and my ski career started here, too. My three boys have grown up at this mountain and also call it home. I worked my way through the ranks for 20 years, ultimately leaving in 1999, having served as Director of Operations. Since then, I have been lucky enough to manage a number of amazing resorts across the western United States, gaining new insight and experience along the way. This includes time at Schweitzer Mountain in Idaho as GM, followed by moving to the Tahoe area in 2010, where I’ve held several senior operations roles at both Heavenly and Kirkwood. In 2016, I proudly became the GM of Kirkwood, and three years later, I began serving in my current role as GM at Heavenly.
I understand how special Stevens Pass is. I also know many of you are frustrated – and we’ve heard you. I’m taking an interim GM assignment here to support operational improvement, work towards getting the mountain open as quickly and safely as possible, and to positively change your experience with us.
Stevens Pass is a complex operation...it always has been. That means change will not happen overnight, but I am committed to securing both short-term wins and outlining a long-term roadmap of improvement. With that in mind, I am committed to communicating often, and with transparency.
My history and passion may be relevant, but what really matters today is moving forward.
I am excited to reconnect with friends from the past, and to make new ones on the hill. And most importantly, we want to see SPKA!
See you on the mountain,
Tom Fortune -
Stevens Pass. Lol.
No seriously. That place has always been second rate among NW ski areas.
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Blue bird days have been fun.
Also exploring new terrain at Crystal.
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the parking at pcmr is a bitch but onYellowSnow said:
I will post a summary soon. Nothing is confidential.
Seriously fuck Vail and fuck Altera. They are ruining skiing every where.
There was no parking issue at Crystal pre Ikon pass BTW.
https://www.parkrecord.com/opinion/columns/tom-clyde-this-is-the-year-we-broke-it/the canyons village at park city mountain resortthe canyonspark west is basically you got to get there at 8am
lines on the mountain arent bad though, not all the chairs are open, not sure if thats due to a lack of workers or vail being vail
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I don't begrudge Crystal's recent parking policies. It's simple supply and demand. The Seattle area has exploded in the last two decades and we have no new resorts to handle all of that extra capacity. Even less now that Stevens decided to sell the couch. It sucks, but this is where we are.YellowSnow said:
I will post a summary soon. Nothing is confidential.pawz said:
I would love to hear any of the inside details you can share. And the ones you can't, PM @pawz.YellowSnow said:
I hope the AG goes after Vail.pawz said:
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
I have a very close fren who was a Director at Stevens for many years.
What they did to that place is criminal.
Seriously fuck Vail and fuck Altera. They are ruining skiing every where.
There was no parking issue at Crystal pre Ikon pass BTW.
https://www.parkrecord.com/opinion/columns/tom-clyde-this-is-the-year-we-broke-it/
The shittiest part of the massive corporatization of everything skiing is that despite all of the big pockets, no one is willing to make actual big capital investments. These fuckos need to lobby the USFS to open up some more land and develop another resort or two. This shit is only going to continue to get worse. -
It's hard to imagine the Seattle folks not fighting more forest land for skiing in court for 30 years
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Dramatic population growth + affluence (i.e., skiing is mostly not for pours) combined with no new acreage in WA would have created crowding issues regardless. But the Epic / Ikon pass compounds the problems immensely but keep the cost of ski days absurdly low. Vail and Aletra's (Ikon) model is too focus on maxium skier visits via Epic/Ikon and then make your money with through lessons, rentals, F&B, etc.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I don't begrudge Crystal's recent parking policies. It's simple supply and demand. The Seattle area has exploded in the last two decades and we have no new resorts to handle all of that extra capacity. Even less now that Stevens decided to sell the couch. It sucks, but this is where we are.YellowSnow said:
I will post a summary soon. Nothing is confidential.pawz said:
I would love to hear any of the inside details you can share. And the ones you can't, PM @pawz.YellowSnow said:
I hope the AG goes after Vail.pawz said:
I really have no words. I fucking knew better than to buy a season pass at Stevens. I did because hand full of friends that I normally ride with did too.YellowSnow said:What the hells going on out there @pawz
Vail = shit as Fuck.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/at-stevens-pass-epic-lines-not-so-epic-times-amid-staff-shortage/
The 30,000+ signature petition that is floating around to demand Vail refund season pass money, I'm like signature number 80. They won't do it I think, unless the State AG gets involved. Which he might. I hope.
But most likely I lit $650 on fire.
I still have my Ikon pass and enjoyed 2+ feet of new snow at Alpental on Wednesday. Wore me out, I don't have my legs under me yet.
Sounds like with this storm that rolled through, nothing is open for the foreseable future (aka Sunday).
Except Crystal. They rock.
Fuck Vail.
I have a very close fren who was a Director at Stevens for many years.
What they did to that place is criminal.
Seriously fuck Vail and fuck Altera. They are ruining skiing every where.
There was no parking issue at Crystal pre Ikon pass BTW.
https://www.parkrecord.com/opinion/columns/tom-clyde-this-is-the-year-we-broke-it/
The shittiest part of the massive corporatization of everything skiing is that despite all of the big pockets, no one is willing to make actual big capital investments. These fuckos need to lobby the USFS to open up some more land and develop another resort or two. This shit is only going to continue to get worse.
I'd rather we just went back to the days of single resorts season passes and day tickets.
Return on equity ruins everything I love whether it's college football or skiing in WA.
Fortunately, I'm only 30 mins from a good hill that still has enough parking most days and it's too far away from @HillsboroDuck to day trip it. -
The funny thing about PCMR is that aside from Jupiter, the best skiing at the mountain is OG Park West. Fantastic, long north facing runs.rodmansrage said:
the parking at pcmr is a bitch but onYellowSnow said:
I will post a summary soon. Nothing is confidential.
Seriously fuck Vail and fuck Altera. They are ruining skiing every where.
There was no parking issue at Crystal pre Ikon pass BTW.
https://www.parkrecord.com/opinion/columns/tom-clyde-this-is-the-year-we-broke-it/the canyons village at park city mountain resortthe canyonspark west is basically you got to get there at 8am
lines on the mountain arent bad though, not all the chairs are open, not sure if thats due to a lack of workers or vail being vail
i know the pcmr lifties and vail avoided a strike, would have been a shitshow if that didnt happen.
The potential strike with Vail was ski patrol. Pretty crazy how shit those guys are paid in conjunction with the level of responsibility.
When were you not seeing lines @rodmansrage ?
