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For clarity, do you think it would be best for everyone if we had schools go back to the way they were before the 50s?WestlinnDuck said:
Inner city schools were pretty damn good in the 1950s compared to today and even in comparison to today's crap public schools in the suburbs. Hell, Terry Baker and Mel Renfro both played at Jefferson High School. Today, Jefferson is an intellectual wasteland. Those discriminated against in the 1950s on home purchases are all dead. There would have been some intergenerational wealth transfers. Now we use zoning, building regulations and urban growth boundaries to punish poor people trying to move up the ladder. All supported by the left.MikeDamone said:
Correct, but it did affect wealth accumulation and there are people today who could not buy a traditional house in good neighborhoods with decent schools in the 50s who would be much wealthier today (and their families would be as well) if they owned a home in the 50s in the suburbs. This applies to anyone of any race.SFGbob said:
Agreed, redlining devalued property in black neighborhoods but that hasn't been the case since the late 1960s and isn't responsible today for lower values in certain neighborhoods. There are plenty of neighborhoods in parts of Oakland and Berkeley that have benefited greatly from gentrification.MikeDamone said:
Obviously there was redlining happened and ended over 50 years ago. And obviously that has hurt accumulation of wealth. But what good does it fucking do to continually beat the victim drum? If the left had an ounce of honestly and decency they would be all over school choice and championing stable two parent families (and TKS, I said two parent, not necessarily married). But school choice and families threaten their power base. The left in now way want to or is interested in “ending racism”. There are billions to be made in victim politics and fostering dependency. It’s really sick and twisted. The TKS has been indoctrinated to believe he is moral and virtuous.SFGbob said:
Have you seen the recent housing Ad the NFL is running? White racism causes banks to foreclose on black people's homes and to undervalue their property. And black people can be arrested just for looking at the wrong house.MikeDamone said:I’m also laughing at the NFL with their “End Racism” shit in the end zones and on helmets. Oh ,ok, I was going to be a racist on a Sunday afternoon but then I was reminded to End Racism on a football helmet.
If these assholes had any balls they would promote ending domestic violence, DUI and gun violence. You know, something that they can actually make a difference that actually affects people associated with NFL players. But like I said, they would do it if they had balls, which they don’t.
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Sounds like you can’t handle the ups and downs of a market economy.RaceBannon said:
Golf and Nascar sell out to the left over fear of being canceled and this is your replyTheKobeStopper said:So you guys are cancelling golf and nascar?
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Which do you believe has a greater negative impact on the home values in certain neighborhoods today? Crime and violence or redlining? Today even good neighborhoods here in California have shitty public schools.MikeDamone said:
Correct, but it did affect wealth accumulation and there are people today who could not buy a traditional house in good neighborhoods with decent schools in the 50s who would be much wealthier today (and their families would be as well) if they owned a home in the 50s in the suburbs. This applies to anyone of any race.SFGbob said:
Agreed, redlining devalued property in black neighborhoods but that hasn't been the case since the late 1960s and isn't responsible today for lower values in certain neighborhoods. There are plenty of neighborhoods in parts of Oakland and Berkeley that have benefited greatly from gentrification.MikeDamone said:
Obviously there was redlining happened and ended over 50 years ago. And obviously that has hurt accumulation of wealth. But what good does it fucking do to continually beat the victim drum? If the left had an ounce of honestly and decency they would be all over school choice and championing stable two parent families (and TKS, I said two parent, not necessarily married). But school choice and families threaten their power base. The left in now way want to or is interested in “ending racism”. There are billions to be made in victim politics and fostering dependency. It’s really sick and twisted. The TKS has been indoctrinated to believe he is moral and virtuous.SFGbob said:
Have you seen the recent housing Ad the NFL is running? White racism causes banks to foreclose on black people's homes and to undervalue their property. And black people can be arrested just for looking at the wrong house.MikeDamone said:I’m also laughing at the NFL with their “End Racism” shit in the end zones and on helmets. Oh ,ok, I was going to be a racist on a Sunday afternoon but then I was reminded to End Racism on a football helmet.
If these assholes had any balls they would promote ending domestic violence, DUI and gun violence. You know, something that they can actually make a difference that actually affects people associated with NFL players. But like I said, they would do it if they had balls, which they don’t.
https://databases.usatoday.com/nfl-arrests/ -
Sounds like giving up phucking strawman ass wasn't a slobberer New Year's resolution. What does a free speech complaint about NASCAR and the PGA going woke have to do with the ups and downs of a free market economy? No need to answer, just a hypothetical rhetorical question and we know that you don't deal in hypotheticals just strawman ass phucking.TheKobeStopper said:
Sounds like you can’t handle the ups and downs of a market economy.RaceBannon said:
Golf and Nascar sell out to the left over fear of being canceled and this is your replyTheKobeStopper said:So you guys are cancelling golf and nascar?
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Kobe is just dying to call you a racist.TheKobeStopper said:
For clarity, do you think it would be best for everyone if we had schools go back to the way they were before the 50s?WestlinnDuck said:
Inner city schools were pretty damn good in the 1950s compared to today and even in comparison to today's crap public schools in the suburbs. Hell, Terry Baker and Mel Renfro both played at Jefferson High School. Today, Jefferson is an intellectual wasteland. Those discriminated against in the 1950s on home purchases are all dead. There would have been some intergenerational wealth transfers. Now we use zoning, building regulations and urban growth boundaries to punish poor people trying to move up the ladder. All supported by the left.MikeDamone said:
Correct, but it did affect wealth accumulation and there are people today who could not buy a traditional house in good neighborhoods with decent schools in the 50s who would be much wealthier today (and their families would be as well) if they owned a home in the 50s in the suburbs. This applies to anyone of any race.SFGbob said:
Agreed, redlining devalued property in black neighborhoods but that hasn't been the case since the late 1960s and isn't responsible today for lower values in certain neighborhoods. There are plenty of neighborhoods in parts of Oakland and Berkeley that have benefited greatly from gentrification.MikeDamone said:
Obviously there was redlining happened and ended over 50 years ago. And obviously that has hurt accumulation of wealth. But what good does it fucking do to continually beat the victim drum? If the left had an ounce of honestly and decency they would be all over school choice and championing stable two parent families (and TKS, I said two parent, not necessarily married). But school choice and families threaten their power base. The left in now way want to or is interested in “ending racism”. There are billions to be made in victim politics and fostering dependency. It’s really sick and twisted. The TKS has been indoctrinated to believe he is moral and virtuous.SFGbob said:
Have you seen the recent housing Ad the NFL is running? White racism causes banks to foreclose on black people's homes and to undervalue their property. And black people can be arrested just for looking at the wrong house.MikeDamone said:I’m also laughing at the NFL with their “End Racism” shit in the end zones and on helmets. Oh ,ok, I was going to be a racist on a Sunday afternoon but then I was reminded to End Racism on a football helmet.
If these assholes had any balls they would promote ending domestic violence, DUI and gun violence. You know, something that they can actually make a difference that actually affects people associated with NFL players. But like I said, they would do it if they had balls, which they don’t.
https://databases.usatoday.com/nfl-arrests/ -
Let's see, public schools required discipline and taught everyone to read and do basic math in the 1950s. I'll take those two points. Not a lot of calling the teacher a bitch.TheKobeStopper said:
For clarity, do you think it would be best for everyone if we had schools go back to the way they were before the 50s?WestlinnDuck said:
Inner city schools were pretty damn good in the 1950s compared to today and even in comparison to today's crap public schools in the suburbs. Hell, Terry Baker and Mel Renfro both played at Jefferson High School. Today, Jefferson is an intellectual wasteland. Those discriminated against in the 1950s on home purchases are all dead. There would have been some intergenerational wealth transfers. Now we use zoning, building regulations and urban growth boundaries to punish poor people trying to move up the ladder. All supported by the left.MikeDamone said:
Correct, but it did affect wealth accumulation and there are people today who could not buy a traditional house in good neighborhoods with decent schools in the 50s who would be much wealthier today (and their families would be as well) if they owned a home in the 50s in the suburbs. This applies to anyone of any race.SFGbob said:
Agreed, redlining devalued property in black neighborhoods but that hasn't been the case since the late 1960s and isn't responsible today for lower values in certain neighborhoods. There are plenty of neighborhoods in parts of Oakland and Berkeley that have benefited greatly from gentrification.MikeDamone said:
Obviously there was redlining happened and ended over 50 years ago. And obviously that has hurt accumulation of wealth. But what good does it fucking do to continually beat the victim drum? If the left had an ounce of honestly and decency they would be all over school choice and championing stable two parent families (and TKS, I said two parent, not necessarily married). But school choice and families threaten their power base. The left in now way want to or is interested in “ending racism”. There are billions to be made in victim politics and fostering dependency. It’s really sick and twisted. The TKS has been indoctrinated to believe he is moral and virtuous.SFGbob said:
Have you seen the recent housing Ad the NFL is running? White racism causes banks to foreclose on black people's homes and to undervalue their property. And black people can be arrested just for looking at the wrong house.MikeDamone said:I’m also laughing at the NFL with their “End Racism” shit in the end zones and on helmets. Oh ,ok, I was going to be a racist on a Sunday afternoon but then I was reminded to End Racism on a football helmet.
If these assholes had any balls they would promote ending domestic violence, DUI and gun violence. You know, something that they can actually make a difference that actually affects people associated with NFL players. But like I said, they would do it if they had balls, which they don’t.
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I don’t know. But I think you missed my point.SFGbob said:
Which do you believe has a greater negative impact on the home values in certain neighborhoods today? Crime and violence or redlining? Today even good neighborhoods here in California have shitty public schools.MikeDamone said:
Correct, but it did affect wealth accumulation and there are people today who could not buy a traditional house in good neighborhoods with decent schools in the 50s who would be much wealthier today (and their families would be as well) if they owned a home in the 50s in the suburbs. This applies to anyone of any race.SFGbob said:
Agreed, redlining devalued property in black neighborhoods but that hasn't been the case since the late 1960s and isn't responsible today for lower values in certain neighborhoods. There are plenty of neighborhoods in parts of Oakland and Berkeley that have benefited greatly from gentrification.MikeDamone said:
Obviously there was redlining happened and ended over 50 years ago. And obviously that has hurt accumulation of wealth. But what good does it fucking do to continually beat the victim drum? If the left had an ounce of honestly and decency they would be all over school choice and championing stable two parent families (and TKS, I said two parent, not necessarily married). But school choice and families threaten their power base. The left in now way want to or is interested in “ending racism”. There are billions to be made in victim politics and fostering dependency. It’s really sick and twisted. The TKS has been indoctrinated to believe he is moral and virtuous.SFGbob said:
Have you seen the recent housing Ad the NFL is running? White racism causes banks to foreclose on black people's homes and to undervalue their property. And black people can be arrested just for looking at the wrong house.MikeDamone said:I’m also laughing at the NFL with their “End Racism” shit in the end zones and on helmets. Oh ,ok, I was going to be a racist on a Sunday afternoon but then I was reminded to End Racism on a football helmet.
If these assholes had any balls they would promote ending domestic violence, DUI and gun violence. You know, something that they can actually make a difference that actually affects people associated with NFL players. But like I said, they would do it if they had balls, which they don’t.
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I got your point. Redlining had a negative impact on home values and thus hurt the ability of blacks to achieve greater wealth accumulation. But that's not what's holding down home values now.MikeDamone said:
I don’t know. But I think you missed my point.SFGbob said:
Which do you believe has a greater negative impact on the home values in certain neighborhoods today? Crime and violence or redlining? Today even good neighborhoods here in California have shitty public schools.MikeDamone said:
Correct, but it did affect wealth accumulation and there are people today who could not buy a traditional house in good neighborhoods with decent schools in the 50s who would be much wealthier today (and their families would be as well) if they owned a home in the 50s in the suburbs. This applies to anyone of any race.SFGbob said:
Agreed, redlining devalued property in black neighborhoods but that hasn't been the case since the late 1960s and isn't responsible today for lower values in certain neighborhoods. There are plenty of neighborhoods in parts of Oakland and Berkeley that have benefited greatly from gentrification.MikeDamone said:
Obviously there was redlining happened and ended over 50 years ago. And obviously that has hurt accumulation of wealth. But what good does it fucking do to continually beat the victim drum? If the left had an ounce of honestly and decency they would be all over school choice and championing stable two parent families (and TKS, I said two parent, not necessarily married). But school choice and families threaten their power base. The left in now way want to or is interested in “ending racism”. There are billions to be made in victim politics and fostering dependency. It’s really sick and twisted. The TKS has been indoctrinated to believe he is moral and virtuous.SFGbob said:
Have you seen the recent housing Ad the NFL is running? White racism causes banks to foreclose on black people's homes and to undervalue their property. And black people can be arrested just for looking at the wrong house.MikeDamone said:I’m also laughing at the NFL with their “End Racism” shit in the end zones and on helmets. Oh ,ok, I was going to be a racist on a Sunday afternoon but then I was reminded to End Racism on a football helmet.
If these assholes had any balls they would promote ending domestic violence, DUI and gun violence. You know, something that they can actually make a difference that actually affects people associated with NFL players. But like I said, they would do it if they had balls, which they don’t.
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And I never said anything about now. That isn’t relevant to my point.SFGbob said:
I got your point. Redlining had a negative impact on home values and thus hurt the ability of blacks to achieve greater wealth accumulation. But that's not what's holding down home values now.MikeDamone said:
I don’t know. But I think you missed my point.SFGbob said:
Which do you believe has a greater negative impact on the home values in certain neighborhoods today? Crime and violence or redlining? Today even good neighborhoods here in California have shitty public schools.MikeDamone said:
Correct, but it did affect wealth accumulation and there are people today who could not buy a traditional house in good neighborhoods with decent schools in the 50s who would be much wealthier today (and their families would be as well) if they owned a home in the 50s in the suburbs. This applies to anyone of any race.SFGbob said:
Agreed, redlining devalued property in black neighborhoods but that hasn't been the case since the late 1960s and isn't responsible today for lower values in certain neighborhoods. There are plenty of neighborhoods in parts of Oakland and Berkeley that have benefited greatly from gentrification.MikeDamone said:
Obviously there was redlining happened and ended over 50 years ago. And obviously that has hurt accumulation of wealth. But what good does it fucking do to continually beat the victim drum? If the left had an ounce of honestly and decency they would be all over school choice and championing stable two parent families (and TKS, I said two parent, not necessarily married). But school choice and families threaten their power base. The left in now way want to or is interested in “ending racism”. There are billions to be made in victim politics and fostering dependency. It’s really sick and twisted. The TKS has been indoctrinated to believe he is moral and virtuous.SFGbob said:
Have you seen the recent housing Ad the NFL is running? White racism causes banks to foreclose on black people's homes and to undervalue their property. And black people can be arrested just for looking at the wrong house.MikeDamone said:I’m also laughing at the NFL with their “End Racism” shit in the end zones and on helmets. Oh ,ok, I was going to be a racist on a Sunday afternoon but then I was reminded to End Racism on a football helmet.
If these assholes had any balls they would promote ending domestic violence, DUI and gun violence. You know, something that they can actually make a difference that actually affects people associated with NFL players. But like I said, they would do it if they had balls, which they don’t.
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The point is we could do something about depressed home values now. We can't do anything about depressed home values in the 1950s. Redlining is used as an excuse to explain depressed home values today. It's bullshit.MikeDamone said:
And I never said anything about now. That isn’t relevant to my point.SFGbob said:
I got your point. Redlining had a negative impact on home values and thus hurt the ability of blacks to achieve greater wealth accumulation. But that's not what's holding down home values now.MikeDamone said:
I don’t know. But I think you missed my point.SFGbob said:
Which do you believe has a greater negative impact on the home values in certain neighborhoods today? Crime and violence or redlining? Today even good neighborhoods here in California have shitty public schools.MikeDamone said:
Correct, but it did affect wealth accumulation and there are people today who could not buy a traditional house in good neighborhoods with decent schools in the 50s who would be much wealthier today (and their families would be as well) if they owned a home in the 50s in the suburbs. This applies to anyone of any race.SFGbob said:
Agreed, redlining devalued property in black neighborhoods but that hasn't been the case since the late 1960s and isn't responsible today for lower values in certain neighborhoods. There are plenty of neighborhoods in parts of Oakland and Berkeley that have benefited greatly from gentrification.MikeDamone said:
Obviously there was redlining happened and ended over 50 years ago. And obviously that has hurt accumulation of wealth. But what good does it fucking do to continually beat the victim drum? If the left had an ounce of honestly and decency they would be all over school choice and championing stable two parent families (and TKS, I said two parent, not necessarily married). But school choice and families threaten their power base. The left in now way want to or is interested in “ending racism”. There are billions to be made in victim politics and fostering dependency. It’s really sick and twisted. The TKS has been indoctrinated to believe he is moral and virtuous.SFGbob said:
Have you seen the recent housing Ad the NFL is running? White racism causes banks to foreclose on black people's homes and to undervalue their property. And black people can be arrested just for looking at the wrong house.MikeDamone said:I’m also laughing at the NFL with their “End Racism” shit in the end zones and on helmets. Oh ,ok, I was going to be a racist on a Sunday afternoon but then I was reminded to End Racism on a football helmet.
If these assholes had any balls they would promote ending domestic violence, DUI and gun violence. You know, something that they can actually make a difference that actually affects people associated with NFL players. But like I said, they would do it if they had balls, which they don’t.
https://databases.usatoday.com/nfl-arrests/
