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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd be supportive of UW ending football. The E1 lot is already going to be developed into buildings. Use the stadium for concerts and Stadium Cross races. Or a pea patch. If there was ever a chance to kill it, it's now
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,617 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    OK!
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception
  • RTD
    RTD Member Posts: 837

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.

  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,029
    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,205 Standard Supporter
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457

    Who’s Roi?

    Dunno but he seems to be positive.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,029

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
    College is expensive? Why is that?

    Thanks for proving my point btw.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
    College is expensive? Why is that?

    Thanks for proving my point btw.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+college+so+expensive&oq=why+is+college+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512l9.5490j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    I'm pretty busy today. Check this out.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,029

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
    College is expensive? Why is that?

    Thanks for proving my point btw.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+college+so+expensive&oq=why+is+college+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512l9.5490j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    I'm pretty busy today. Check this out.
    Weird that people continue to make poor financial choices on a diminishing value proposition.

    Again, thanks for supporting my point.

    P.s. you sound poor
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,146 Standard Supporter

    I bet the replacement would be the offensive qa control they just hired. At first I was thinking DeBoer was just hiring who he was comfortable with. I think Jen is just trying to do it on the cheap though the this plays out.

    I hope not. Doogs are also calling for Jermaine Kearse to be named WR coach. Either convince Kirby to come up or poach the Arizona guy. We should be done with the analyst - on field coach promotion after last year
    I’m not as against hiring Kearse as you are. He’s got a few things in his corner that I like. Local guy, played at UW, played in the NFL. Assuming he can sell and is willing to cater to teen bois on an obsessive level I’d be happier with JK than a GA. He’s at minimum third for me behind Moore and Cummings.
    Honestly, if Hartline can be as good as he is at OSU, maybe Kearse could do something here. Yeah, we aren't tOSU, I know. No clue what Hartline's background is beyond playing WR.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Go ahead and just give us the cliff notes version instead of asking these dumb vagueries.

    There's countless ways to measure ROI of a college degree. While my impression is that it's still positive despite admin bloat run amok, these comparisons are largely meaningless since we're talking about a counter-factual for each individual person. As always, YMMV.

    So let's just skip the bullshit back and forth and you tell us why college is a scam.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    I have an UW education, so that should tell you enough about the worth of that paper. You did not miss out lolz
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Go ahead and just give us the cliff notes version instead of asking these dumb vagueries.

    There's countless ways to measure ROI of a college degree. While my impression is that it's still positive despite admin bloat run amok, these comparisons are largely meaningless since we're talking about a counter-factual for each individual person. As always, YMMV.

    So let's just skip the bullshit back and forth and you tell us why college is a scam.
    Thank you. I was just getting to the end of this and about to ask to skip the nonsense innuendo. Frankly I'm not even certain on exactly what his stance is other than that he thinks he can sound wise if he doesn't say anything.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
    College is expensive? Why is that?

    Thanks for proving my point btw.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+college+so+expensive&oq=why+is+college+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512l9.5490j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    I'm pretty busy today. Check this out.
    Weird that people continue to make poor financial choices on a diminishing value proposition.

    Again, thanks for supporting my point.

    P.s. you sound poor
    Internet wealth flex? Yikes. You lost before you even typed that.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,146 Standard Supporter
    Houhusky said:

    The day when only a few schools can actually run a competitive basketball or football program and all the other college sports disappear without the amateur college football system that propped them up cannot occur fast enough.

    The “playoff” system is fucking retarded
    The sitting out major games so you don’t get hurt is fucking retarded
    The open season on paying players is fucking retarded
    The free agency is fucking retarded
    The failing upwards incestuous coaches get more retarded every year

    There is nothing left to stop the train, the NFL should just start a minor league or euro club system and kill it for good asap. College sports should just disappear and all the dumb fuck athletes that promoted and pushed for this system can see how much support and money their stupid fucking sport NOCs about gets after killing the amateur college basketball and football gravy train with dumb fucking ideas.

    95% of football players will flame out of a minor league system where there's no 4-5 year scholarship commitment. A lot less black males getting college education as a fallback. Literally thousands less college grads every year.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,146 Standard Supporter
    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    Pump his gas, Duck!
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,720 Founders Club

    RTD said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.

    I founded the University
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Go ahead and just give us the cliff notes version instead of asking these dumb vagueries.

    There's countless ways to measure ROI of a college degree. While my impression is that it's still positive despite admin bloat run amok, these comparisons are largely meaningless since we're talking about a counter-factual for each individual person. As always, YMMV.

    So let's just skip the bullshit back and forth and you tell us why college is a scam.
    Yewer a classy poaster and can deal in nuance so I'll give you an earnest response as opposed to trolling the idiot that got triggered by a gender studies joke.

    80% of people currently attending college probably shouldn't(financially) . 20% or so still should but they'd probably be successful even if they spent $100k traveling the world and doing blow for four years from 18-22 and then declared bankruptcy. Hence, opportunity cost.

    I never said college was a scam. Ymmv is EXACTLY the point. It's the height of negative education to broadly make fun of people who looked at a potentially negative value proposition and make fun of them for not taking it. Doubly so if you went to a second tier school or majored in a shoeshine degree.

    Tldr there's plenty of retards with degrees and smart people without them. Retards with degrees are the only ones to think otherwise.
    Virgin-alert.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,029

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Go ahead and just give us the cliff notes version instead of asking these dumb vagueries.

    There's countless ways to measure ROI of a college degree. While my impression is that it's still positive despite admin bloat run amok, these comparisons are largely meaningless since we're talking about a counter-factual for each individual person. As always, YMMV.

    So let's just skip the bullshit back and forth and you tell us why college is a scam.
    Yewer a classy poaster and can deal in nuance so I'll give you an earnest response as opposed to trolling the idiot that got triggered by a gender studies joke.

    80% of people currently attending college probably shouldn't(financially) . 20% or so still should but they'd probably be successful even if they spent $100k traveling the world and doing blow for four years from 18-22 and then declared bankruptcy. Hence, opportunity cost.

    I never said college was a scam. Ymmv is EXACTLY the point. It's the height of negative education to broadly make fun of people who looked at a potentially negative value proposition and make fun of them for not taking it. Doubly so if you went to a second tier school or majored in a shoeshine degree.

    Tldr there's plenty of retards with degrees and smart people without them. Retards with degrees are the only ones to think otherwise.
    Virgin-alert.
    Are you gnu here or just a complete ritard?